Hello, this is my first post, after lurking for a while and seeing the valuable sense of community in the nexus i decided to join in and try to collaborate with my grain of sand This is something i wrote, let me know your toughts on it

To Smoke DMT is a political statement.
On the DMT experience, Terence McKenna says that we must send “fearless explorers” to describe and investigate hyperspace. Fear is the key ingredient here. To voluntarily undergone a DMT experience cannot be conceived without the characteristic anxiety previous to smoking. This fear is noticeably intense, at least on my experience, compared to other psychedelics. Where does this fear comes from? Taking in consideration that the overwhelming majority of DMT experiences are remarkably positive, ranging from the mind-blowing and amusing to the spiritually deep and life changing. I believe that to place the origin of fear solely in the inherent intensity and alieness of the experience is to make some injustice to DMT. I’d rather believe that the origins of this fear lye in that which most would incline to believe is the most familiar. Cotidianity, routine, everyday life. Reality. There is a cultural conditioning that almost instinctively activates the fight-or-flight response towards this open door to hyperspace. And this not only refers to the superficial aspect, the explicitly induced terror of the masses towards alternative states of consciousness implanted by the war on drugs. Even among well stablished psychedelic users, those who have passed beyond the recreational use of drugs and believe that there is something else overlapping and transcending this so called reality, DMT is no drug to get just a kick. DMT might as well, and this is well stablished too, kick your ass if you approach it casually. This has been saved partially by attributing mostly everything bad or scary that could be experienced on DMT to a lack of respect to the elves, nature, the goddess or whatever entity supposedly rules hyperspace. This route can only lead to mystified rituals and obscurantism, and therefore to permanent fear to the experience, which always remains utterly unknown and even more, mediated by unpredictable forces. I think this fear is more likely a concrete manifestation of the interests of those who rule this world. The political configuration of global capitalism demands not only a consent but also a compromise of its consumers in order to stablish this reality. The system is not so much an abstract ideology on some manhattan skyscraper but a concrete practice, embodied in peoples lives. There is a general interest from everyone making a profit in this world, no matter how big or small, to keep things marching within the limits of this reality.

So why is DMT precisely a political statement as we said? Because it utterly and inexorably shatters this reality and replaces it with something so completely novel and strange that intimately shakes the supposedly logical foundations of our dearly western society. The fear to experience hyperspace comes not from the alieness of it, but from the irrational subconscient familiarity that we have with our world. The logical, sane, rational thing to do for a society faced with this kind of experience would be to move gradually from the initial astonishment, towards the integration of the experience to the collective consensus. This is after all what happened to our species in the transition from apes to humans, and what happened and still happens in ancestral societies where the shaman is still a respectable figure. Smoked DMT offers a dimensional aspect of chaos that is completely unheard of and unexperienced in human history. The scientific development of several disciplines, from archaeology to chemistry, and the rediscovery of an archaic tradition, yielded a molecule which for the first time opens the doors of human perception in a completely different manner. This is a transcendental experience for western culture that must be explored and integrated, but that precisely is prevented of being it so by our dearly beloved protector, the state.

The fear comes then from a lack of perspective over the experience. It is a political experience. The experience of hyperspace is perhaps the most relevant political experience that we can undergone nowadays, in the sense that is a concrete practice of our inalienable right to free determination and movement, whether this movement be throught frontiers, emotions or dimensions. Objective or subjective, illusory or physical, the reality of the DMT experience cannot be dismissed or approved based solely in the ultimate character that underlies within it. Aren’t we still debating nowadays after all the subjective idealism versus the objective materialism of our own nature’s reality? I think that if we make this, the political practice of freedom, our anchor when approaching the act of smoking DMT, we won’t learn much more about the nature of hyperspace, but we might surely eliminate much of the fears and pre-flight anxiety inherently associated with it, as with any other revolutionary action that celebrates human freedom against the compulsive control of the state.

Its late and im tired, but i read the whole post and i wanted to respond. Top post my friend, an interesting point well made. Ill try and come up with something to add tomorrow after i have rested.

Yeah, good stuff. I'm fairly sharp right now, but don't know what to say. Viva La Revolución!

The individual has to reprogram his experience! If he does it, he changes the whole organism "collective human experience".

I am also much more politically active since I smoke DMT (I wouldn't have pictured myself in a demonstration in Paris with a "No gods No masters" sticker on my t-shirt until recently)
however it's hard to fight this feeling of urgency that made Leary go the wrong way, so be careful.

Now, what happens to you after god starts talking to you though the DMT experience?

I dont care about politics. Its ugly and unnecessary, really.

Is politics unnecessary? I think so but many people don't.

If at all i would like to see government liquidated, the important decisions (international policy etc) should be put to referendum as soon as an issue arises. A higher frequency of public voting on issues.
The banking system to be burned to the ground. All money deleted and manhours/material/products should be exchanged via a large computer system so we ain't hording vast amounts of monopoly money. Also money should be diminished over time to reflect the reality of physical matter.

I do wonder how much more popular DMT has actually become, i have seen the amount of people rise on the forum but i am curious IRL how many more people have used it.. or Ayahuasca in recent times. Obviously the law is fucking redic, its clearly not stopping anyone from having these experiences. People are growing mushrooms, extracting DMT and drinking mescaline all the time.

I feel like the combined fall of American capitalism, the entire Afghanistan (beautiful Afghanistan!) & Iraq conflict, the rising use of Entheogens to have experiences that raise COMMON FUCKING SENSE...

There is a story being written here, and i cant wait to see where it goes. Though you just know that the infant that is middle earth will only come with us being dragged by its belt loops, kicking and screaming.

Ive also noticed a rise in protests the world over, along wit things like Jon Stewart's Rally to restore sanity.
You can feel it, and so can we. Those fighting on the good side need to be careful because as the empire of insanity falls it will take many folks with it. At the same time we need to not slow down in the slightest.
Viva La Revolution indeed.

Or when god starts talking to you after any other experience. What happens is that you keep it to yourself and try to not kill anyone.

I honestly doubt that dmt will make you talk to god... unless you are religious.
People used to have visions of angels and saints, now they see ufos much more often...

The first time I tried spice I did not really know what to expect even though I had read about a lot of experiences here and in other places. At first I tied twice rue/mimosa teas and learned through these experiences that there were things about me that need changing. I took having a first experience before I developed 'preflight anxiety'. Now I have that anxiety prior to each journey.

The funny thing is that my political discontent as been building for a lot of years, and to me it seems that this discontent is one factor that led me to try spice after taking a nearly 3 decade vacation from psychedelics.



Amen to that brother! My opinion is that the largest collection of criminals to humanity lie in the political and banking systems of the world. The density of liars, cheats, and thieves is greater in that collection of people than in any of the other 'professions'. They have caused more suffering world wide over the ages than anything else with the possible exception epidemic outbreaks of diseases.

I wasn't religious, so it took me by surprise, really. Pretty sure im not the only one.

I didn't know that, could you link a few reports please ?

Thanks for all the replies brothers and sisters! This is indeed a great community and im happy to be able to talk about this things.

I believe that there's a natural impulse of freedom that is present in the psychedelic experience in general. It's not hard to see how the power structures embedded in society are completely opposed to the individual feeling of being one with the universe, talking to god (i lean towards being god itself ), or whatever other description we may want to give to it. They're all valid descriptions for that individual breaktrought from this grey reality of everyday life to that realm of infinite bliss, wisdom, trascendence of psychedelics. It's pretty obvious why drugs like lsd and dmt were made illegal in the 60's, not cause of social sanity obviously, but because they were potential revolutionary tools for a bored and betrayed youth. So, i think there is a clear political aspect of psychedelics that must be assesed and brought back explicitly. Im all in for spirituality, but i also care for politics in the sense that they're an influential factor in the way our experiences are unfolded. There is no opposition between one thing and the other, its individual and collective, a whole massive spiritual movement to change the world for a better one.
This was really clear for some hippies before the illegalization of psychedelics, and later the massification of hippie ethos and the rise of new age mysticism. It would be really interesting to see a debate about the social impact of psychedelics from the point of view of different political traditions (i consider myself an anarchist as some would have noticed )

My freedoms and rights are of little concern to me during the entheogenic state. For once it's the freedoms and rights of others that are at the forefront.

I'm pretty sure that the fear I've experienced from DMT and other entheogens is almost wholly one of death.

Most people don't want to die. They resist it, for they know that it will either hurt or that they will simply cease to exist (this fear manifests even in those who believe in an afterlife containing all their thoughts and memories in some coherent way). However, you can embrace death for what it actually is - the other side of the coin featuring life on the front. Without the prior death of the food upon our plate, we wouldn't have reached the foetus stage. Without the death of our muscle fibres and bone matrices, we would not heal and would become brittle and weak. Without the wholesale death of plants and animals before you, your life now wouldn't have existed - Earth cannot support all it's lifeforms simultaneously. The dichotomy of life and death is an illusion, for in reality they are inseparable.
This appeases me greatly, for when I die, I know I'm actually sharing life.

First of all, here is one from my peruvian friend:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&m=165988

Then:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&m=16011
https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=3835
https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=4586
https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=3721

They all have a different angle.

I also remember that 69ron repeatly told the forum that he was a strict atheist before he got changed by dmt (psychedelics?) and that he now totally believes in god because he was shown things he could not know.

Politics is merely the study of the balance (or imbalance) of power in any given relationship. Politics is inherent to existence, as the balance of power is ever present in any given scenario. Many people have no interest in geopolitics or governmental politics, but let's not lose sight of the actual definition of the word...everyone cares about politics, it's impossible not to.

I was referring to a particular definition of politics which puts the word into a contect of nationstates. It's a widely popular definition or so it seems. I would also rather use a more ethno/holistic definition, yes. But then, everything is "political". Not that i'Ve goit a problem with that.

Sure, I didn't mean to appear nitpicky with regards to your usage, just trying to hold onto a semantic differentiation that is rather important, imo.

75% of the patients in the psychiatric hospital where I work can also talk to god*. Sometimes they don't want to be interrupted.

*Spirit realms Inc. CEO

Well if it is a political statement, then it must also be a religious statement, and a statement about culture in general. Because it is not only 'politics' that is left at the door, i assume.

So from my memory what i have understood you got from smoking dmt, to pre flight anxiety, to political/cultural influence and the corrupted system as a cause, and then suggest choosing freedom as an intention to face the wave, to break free from all that was taught by others... Yea man, i like it

I should try that one day