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Poll Question : Which DMT Ally is most consistent for extraction?
Choice Votes Statistics
Cebil(bufotenine) 8 88 %
Yopo(bufo/dmt?) 0 0 %
Virola T Resin(5meo) 0 0 %
Virola C Resing(5meo?) 0 0 %
Virola Bark(5meo?) 0 0 %
Chaliponga(5meo?) 0 0 %
Phalaris Grass(dmt/5meo) 1 11 %


Which Ally is most reliable? Options
 
Oncewas
#1 Posted : 12/3/2009 7:22:21 PM
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Just out of curiousity. I am new to the spice world. I love the spice from MHRB. Though my love for dmt, has got me curious about other forms/variations of dmt chemically.

With no bias towards which chemical is better than one or the other, which plant/seed/resin/bark source is most reliable for extraction?Razz

By reliable I mean a combination of worth-while, fair by price of source, and effectiveness of the known techniques(teks).

You can participate in this poll even if you have only tried one of these and if you thought it was worthy of doing again. Expertise is not required!Very happy

If I forgot to add one worthy of mentioning, I did this out of ignorance. Except I did intentionally leave out Psilocin or Psilocyban containing mushrooms, as the source is illegal to obtain these. Like I said before I don't know everything about the DMT Allies so if anything in the poll is incorrect, please correct me! I am here to learn!Smile

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kemist
#2 Posted : 12/14/2009 12:06:48 AM

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MHBR is the best source, it`s not only the DMT you can get from there lol. Why speculate, just use mhbr lol
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69ron
#3 Posted : 12/14/2009 12:47:58 AM

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I had to vote for cebil. They are the cheapest and most reliable of what’s listed above. All of the sources of 5-MeO-DMT are either pricey, hard to extract, or give inconsistent results from extraction.

Of all the cebil seeds SWIM has had, they’ve pretty much all been good, some were excellent. Cost wise, they are the best option.

Bufotenine is not for everyone though. Bufotenine is very hard to purify without a few special solvents (DCM, xylene, MEK, heptane, etc.). People are working on purification steps that are easier and don’t require such special solvents. In the near future I am sure there will be a very simple tech for extraction of bufotenine down to pure white crystals. But as of today, all of the techs that end up with pure white crystals are pretty complex, so most people experience bufotenine in conjunction with the toxins present in cebil seeds.

A small handful of users on the Nexus have gotten pretty clean results with some of the newer extraction techs available. The techs are still evolving. All of them work well that SWIM has tried. The major difference between the techs are the presence of the toxins.

The toxins (probably made up mostly of bufotenine N-oxide) are a real put off. They make you feel sick for several minutes, causing nausea, head pressure, and other unpleasant effects. Once removed, the bufotenine experience is still not the best in terms of bodily effects. Even pure bufotenine feels a little rough at the onset.

Bufotenine is SWIM’s all time favorite high dose psychedelic, despite its rough onset. The visions, the mental effects, the whole experience is very unique. There is nothing quite like it. It’s sort of ayahuasca-like or mushroom-like, but still very unique.

What SWIM likes the most about bufotenine is that he’s able to have a visionary experience full of sounds, sites, and all, and yet the mental effects at such a strong dose are pretty minor compared to the other psychedelics out there. It leaves you feeling very grounded and relaxed during most of the experience. It’s not at all speedy, except for the first few minutes before the peak. It’s a lazy psychedelic. At the peak, you can easily sit back and relax, close your eyes, and experience fantastic dream-like visions from it. There’s no boundless energy rushing through your body as there can be with high doses of LSD, mescaline or mushrooms, no at all, it’s a very relaxed experience.

By the way, bufotenine is NOT good taken orally, unless the dose is very small. Orally, the effects are a little different. It causes lots of nausea orally. But when smoked, pure bufotenine doesn’t cause any nausea at all (at least for SWIM).
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jamie
#4 Posted : 12/14/2009 12:50:00 AM

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First off my favorite entheogens are DMT(and jungly spice), 5-ho-DMT, and 4-ho-DMT..along with the harmalas in caapi vine.

All of these are reliable for me..vilca seeds and caapi never fail to provide me with a very submersive 5-ho-DMT visionary journey..if I want 4-ho-DMT psilocybe mushrooms are great, especially psilocybe cyanescens, but cubensis are good as well..mushrooms fill me with love and force me to view my life from a new perspective..and MHRB is best for DMT and jungle, and I like my DMT with caapi, in aya or changa.

These 3 are my favorites becasue they just seem to be most conductive to what I want to do..they are consistant and have left a lasting imprint in my life.

I also like mescaline cacti and salvia divinorum but I dont find myself drawn to them too often..salvia I used to smoke alot but not lately.
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