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#1 Posted : 12/6/2009 9:25:12 PM

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Any one else notice that Phens seems harder on the body? SWIMS friend took 500mg of Mescaline HCL three days ago and today he still feels lethargic and sleepy, Psychologically he feels very nice, grounded and quite free of day to day chatter, just very present. But his body is tired. This happens to him from Phens it seems, of the various 2c's he has tried the same effects are noticed. Mescaline in particular on higher doses seems to hit the body, it feels like swims friend has been lifting weights and working out... not unpleasent, its kind of nice because your forced to take it easy and reflect on what just happened. But it makes SWIM wonder, why does it happen?

 

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#2 Posted : 12/6/2009 9:29:23 PM

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I thought this thread was going to be about how awesome working out/exercise/yoga is on mescaline...hehe...
Seems to effect everyone a bit differently...
I've never eaten HCL, but pedro always leaves me with MORE energy the next day, rather than most other psychedelic medicines which do what you are describing.
 
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#3 Posted : 12/6/2009 9:42:26 PM

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Indeed working out is very nice on Mesc, the whole experience is filled with energy, but SWIMS friend also gets the body tiredness from resin.

He doesnt seem to get these after effects from psilocybin or lsd etc. Low doses of Mesc/resin dont seem to produce it either, just high doses
 
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#4 Posted : 12/6/2009 9:46:05 PM

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Pedro contains MAOIs and sedatives so it's not at all the same thing as taking pure mescaline.

Pure mescaline is a more stimulating, cleaner experience, much more in line with something like LSD. It can be quite speedy while Pedro is a more peaceful relaxed experience, especially the first few hours. I suspect that’s one reason the cactus doesn’t wear people out as much as pure mescaline can.

With Pedro, SWIM can actually sleep for the first few hours. That’s not possible with mescaline. You feel supercharged. The peak of a pure mescaline trip can be quite energizing, leading to pacing, inability to sit still, etc., very much like LSD.

Once you’ve experience the non-mescaline alkaloids in Pedro separately from the mescaline, you realizes just how much they affect the Pedro trip. The first 4 hours of the Pedro trip is not a mescaline trip at all, it’s a combo trip made of various alkaloids in the Pedro. At the 4 hour point though, it starts getting more mescaline-like as the other alkaloids fade. But at that point, it’s normally peaked already and most of mescaline’s strong speedy effects are gone. So it’s really a different experience.
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#5 Posted : 12/6/2009 10:07:03 PM

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I have had some neck tesion from mescaline but not too bad, and it only happened when I was tripping balls on the stuff..i like the afterglow that I have the day after but I also feel sort of spacy and tired..mostly becasue it keeps me up late I am thinking..I dont think it's too hard on the body..not like LSA was for me..the thing about cactus for me was that I dont get stomch cramps really that bad like i have with mushrooms..mescaline is so damn smooth..and great for physical activity..I cannot wait to go surfing eventaully on mescaline.

But really the cleanest feeling entheos I have ever had are a good mushroom tea and ayahuasca/changa..Bufo and caapi leave me feeling energized as well once the nausea completely wears off.
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#6 Posted : 12/6/2009 10:10:31 PM

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I had a fair bit of torch extract yesterday and my legs are killing me, but mainly because I couldn't sit down. It's the largest dose I've had so far but I'm physically and mentally fine otherwise.
 
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#7 Posted : 12/6/2009 10:38:44 PM

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Interesting, perhaps it is just SWIMS friend, he is very sensitive to the stuff, and he tellss me that 500mg was a jaw dropping experience. Physically while he was on it, he was fine, no muscle tension at all, and certainly no nausea... Its just the few days following that get him

SWIM would definately recommend surfing on the stuff! His friend was out on a boat on a very calm and sunny day, the water was incedible and if it wasnt so darn cold his friend would have been swimming for most of the day. Surrounded by water on a big lake with no wind and mountains all around blue sky above.... Magic Very happy
 
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#8 Posted : 12/6/2009 11:09:38 PM

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yeah the ocean and mescaline go well together. I have gone swimming and skimboarding after eating torch and it was wonderful.
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