Hi

If any of you would want to try it, and report back to this topic it would be greatly appreciated.


So basically find some good music that you like, slowly start increasing your oxygen levels in your body (look up Wim Hof if you are unfamiliar with this) and try to meditate for the song - try to relive it as much as you can and try to bring out all the positive feelings this music gives you while in this state.

Then report it back here

Takes around 5 minutes, it would be helpful if you'd write relative emotional status (anhedonic maybe, or feeling pretty good all around) and compared to this, how do you feel.

As an extra, doing this for an extended period of time, like daily meditation, 15-25 minutes would also be acceptable response.


All the best everyone!

Maybe "high" would not ge the proper word, but meditation or breathing exercises do indeed affect the way i apreciate music.

The most remarkable thing: shortly after having meditated, my ability to hear music in my head, is always greatly enhanced. I mean being able to hear music that isn't realy there physically, like remembering a tune. Meditation somehow seems to enable me to experience imaginary music with almost the same intensity as "real music".

With the Wim Hof tek actually O2 levels decrease.

The body regulates blood CO2 levels not O2 levels. So by doing the deep breathing you make your CO2 levels very low, then when you hold your breath, you can hold it therefore longer, as it needs longer to reach a critical CO2 concentration which will force you to breathe again. During this time O2 levels drop and drop, and so you can get to lower O2 levels, than you usually could, just by holding your breath.

Also usually you always get a blood O2 saturation of basically (almost) 100%, already with normal breathing. So deep breathing increases O2 levels only slightly. Even if you would then inhale pure oxygen, that saturation wouldn't significantly change anymore, as you only have that much erythrocytes. But the oxygen blood plasma concentration can change with changing the oxygen partial pressure. E.g this is used to cure some illnesses (hyperbaric oxygen therapy). But even there, where you have manifold higher O2 plasma levels, you don't get high from it.

E.g from a study about the Wim Hof tek:


Not saying that the Wim Hof tek is not beneficial, but the state you get in is definitely not due to higher O2 levels.


BTW: I always found it fascinating, that evolution happened in a way, that the body regulates CO2 levels and not O2 levels. IMHO very counterintuitive at first sight (but makes sense at 2nd sight), and also the reason why you don't realize it, when you're dying from too low O2 levels.

Thanks for the responses, It's strange because I get such a clear head I deff thought the oxygen high Wim was talking about was happening.
I'm surprised but I shouldn't be, was a long time when I discovered it and I was not searching for studies much since than.

Still I'll look up everything you've said and edit my title.

That's the really strange thing. Although Wim knows about all this, he still actually explains the functioning of his tek incorrectly. Also don't know why.

BTW, the study I mentioned is:


And BTW, it shows that the tek really works (measurably), but as said definitely not by increasing O2 levels, but actually the opposite.