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#1 Posted : 10/31/2009 5:14:56 PM

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So swim just put some CC on some MJ vaped in a VG and is feeling an unusually clear headed high. Is this placebo?
 

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#2 Posted : 10/31/2009 11:40:29 PM

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You can smoke B. caapi leaves, rue seeds, or passionflower leaves, and all of them produce a very similar effect. I think harmine is smokable, but the THH and harmaline are not. But I’m not sure about this.

Has anyone tried smoking pure THH or pure harmaline? Do they work when smoked?
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#3 Posted : 11/1/2009 12:40:17 AM

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I think lots of people add THH to changa here..I cant comment though I only have experience with caapi extracts.
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#4 Posted : 11/1/2009 2:05:54 AM

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Has anyone attempted to create Tetrahydroharmine Freebase from HCL ?
Would it work by simply dissolving THH Hcl in warm distilled - slowly adding sodium-bicarbonate ?

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#5 Posted : 11/1/2009 2:23:25 AM

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Yeah, I GUESS it would work just as converting harmine/harmaline hcl to freebase like we do in the last stage of a rue extraction.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/1/2009 3:10:58 AM

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SWIM tried freebasing THH once with sodium carbonate and it seemed to decompose. Maybe he did something wrong? SWIM will have to try again sometime in the future.
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#7 Posted : 11/1/2009 1:32:19 PM

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SWIMs imaginary friend made freebased THH synthetically once. Its a powder. The starting material was HCl salts reduced to THH and then freebased and put into organic solvent and dried.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/1/2009 2:39:55 PM

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Do you also think it would likely be worthwile in terms of better effects and smokeability ?
Is Freebase very THH propable to be a lot more unstable Molecule than the Hcl Salt ?
Would one have to use it after freebasing or at least freeze it to keep it from decomposing then ?
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#9 Posted : 11/1/2009 9:29:33 PM

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Observant wrote:
Do you also think it would likely be worthwile in terms of better effects and smokeability ?
Is Freebase very THH propable to be a lot more unstable Molecule than the Hcl Salt ?
Would one have to use it after freebasing or at least freeze it to keep it from decomposing then ?


Well many HCl salts are actually smokable. Not all chemicals need to be freebased to be smokable. Mescaline HCl is apparently smokable, but mescaline sulfate is not. The harmine in rue, caapi, and passionflower is smokable as is and it is a salt. I don’t know what salt it is though.

You might not gain anything by freebasing it. In general, freebase alkaloids are more unstable.

So no one has tried smoking THH?
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#10 Posted : 11/2/2009 3:49:09 AM

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swims cousin vinys cat tried supplementing caapi leaf with it once in making changa... there was a noticeable difference... but that was a while ago...
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