ILPT just have a Wicked Idea to quicken up the tek without any heating

Pooled vinegar pulls are not high in volume so he was just thinking to get rid of all acetate water by adding epsom salt or other desicator in sufficient ammount (about 110 g of epsom for 100ml of water) and then rinse troughoutly with clean acetone which should pickup mescaline acetate. Then just evaporate acetone (WHICH IS QUICKER). One can either do that or add acetone into vinegar mescaline water first and then add epsom or other dessicator.

Unfortunatelly ILPT hasn`t got any pure acetone now, to try this very thing out.

alright troops,ive not been posting mutch here in a while.
anyway im doing this cacti extraction,ive got the torch powder,25g calcium hydroxide,300ml water and 300ml of de-lemonine in a jar that ive been mixing every ten mins while sitting here listening to the amazing jethro tull,lol,anyway back the extraction,i now guess its time to add the vinegar,this is the problem,the only sorce of white vinegar i can find is from the polish shop,the use it for pickling mushrooms and veg and stuff,on the ingredients it says:spirit vinegar 10%.

thats it nothing else in the ingredients at all just that,will this gear be good enough.

im thinking if i just bang in 25ml of this gear ive got and it doesnt work that it wont do any harm anyway,would this be right.
i can get 500ml of this vinegar for 50p so i hope its the good gear.

eagerly waiting folks,you know i love you all,c,mon give me the answer,lol.

from what i understand you should use distilled white vinegar with 5% acidity. i get mine from a food store for cooking

cheers for the reply mate but thats it done now,heres hoping,il let you all know the outcome.

alright folks,only me again,lol.
dont know if this has been mentioned before but ive just found a great way of seperating the vinegar from the de-lemonine if you dont have a gravy seperator,what i done is just simply suck up all the vinegar and de-lemonine in a big syringe,keep holding the syringe so as the tips facing down and all the de-lemonine seperates in the syringe and rises to the top,then once its completely seperated just squeeze down to let out all the viegar and what you have left in the syringe is just de-lemonine,easy and simple.
sorry if its been posted before but dont you just love it when you sus something out for yourself.

oh and the french press is a great contraption,im gonna be using that for loads of things now,cheers.

ps,my vinegar is in the pyrex dish evaporating at room temp with a fan on it,how long does this procedure usualy take.
cheers.

Careful with limonene and plastics. The syringe itself might be ok, but the rubber on the plunger will definitely degrade over time if exposed to limonene.

To remove stray water from 300 ml of limonene (100 ml water), after accidental adding, does one add , say 50 grams of Epsom salt, and then, what? Does the salt extract the water and sink as a sandy salt? does it layer? What should one expect?

Lemmy: 50 ml of vinegar usually takes about 3 days to dry at Texas humidity. Oven drying at lowest setting (about 150 degrees F) speeded things up considerably, but increased the tarry nature of the product. One seems to get cleaner, more soapy/waxy/crystalline product with room temp. drying, at least that is what one friend experienced.

oops, 110 grams of Epsom salt, I mean.

i put it in the ovan at alow setting with the door open for about 10 mins then evaporated the rest in front of a fan,thats me on the 3rd vinegar pull now,i got 2 small blobs of orange waxy crystals (the second pull is more red than orange) about the size of a baked bean.
is this roughly the amount i should be expecting from each pull,sorry i only have scales that measure a gram and upwards.

This gar is fuking good man Don`t blame on it . Much better then that english malt crap. This gar is seriously strong and cleaner then malt shit, awright. For this tek you rather dilute it with distilled water 1:1. yeah

Epsom would become sandy like and obviously sink to bottom

VOLUME OF MIXTURE WILL INCREASE
Which is downside,as some limonene get trapped in that sandy mix. Therefore, after decanting of green limo, swim has, would be in order rinsing the sandy sediment with 2-3 smal portion of new limo, simply to get some trapped goodies out of it

People have reported potency loss with heat-assisted evaporation. It's unknown at what temperature and duration this occurs. If you need to trip -right now- then just drink the vinegar. That will, if nothing else, teach you the value of patience!

indeed

SWIM has finally got a chance to try it.

SWIM isn't uber concerned about food-safe so he is using xylene.

He has mixed his san pedro "cookie dough" with the xylene...

they are keeping completely seperate and the xylene still looks totally clear.

SWIM hopes that the xylene will still work!

WILL UPDATE SOON

I had a 2nd limonene soak that didn't appear to absorb into the cactus like the first had. I let it sit overnight (just like the first) and it still pulled mescaline. However, the first pull had absorbed into the cactus and yielded much better...but it was the first pull, and usually is.

I've never used xylene but ron has stated that he first tried limonene because the chemical structure was similar.

I think it will be OK. Good luck.... if my damn limonene would _finally_ arrive I am planning a torch extraction for halloween fun.

So the xylene replacement definately cause some oddities.

SWIM powdered 50g of san pedro
Added 13g of lime
added ~200ml of water to make it wet ~ but not watery
Mixed for <5 min
Added 200ml xlyene, mixed every 5-10 min for <1 hour

XYLENE = CLEAR AS WATER
Added clear vinagar.
Shakes vigourously (0 emulsions)

XYLENE NOW = CLOUDY AND GREENISH
VINEGAR STILL = 100% CLEAR

SWIM is evaporating the vinagar which seems to be precipitating lots of white solids.

SWIM is confused and excited, will update soon!

EDIT:

SWIM SCRAPED UP 661 mg of flaky yellow-off-white crystals from the first pull, SWIM is eager to try it!

SWIM took a bunch of really sticky brown, messy acetate and sticky brown carbonate and dissolved it in a small volume of warm 91% isopropyll. The dark chunks were hard to get to dissolve, but eventually all of the dark colored material was in solution.

After about 10-15 minutes, a distinct white layer of crystalline solid had settled on the bottom. SWIM thought "I'll throw it in the freezer!"

After an hour or so, the layer had become much bigger, so he siphoned off the brown alcohol with a pipette until no more liquid would siphon off without disturbing the crystal mat. This crystal mat (with its little bit of brown alcohol) was left to evaporate in a dish.

Results were awesome: fine powdery crystalline material. The residual alcohol is still sitting in the freezer pushing out a much smaller crystal mat.

This might be a good way to clean up some of your sticky brown, hard to work with acetate goop.

PlainCoil, that's a very good test.

SWIM found mescaline acetate was soluble in room temperature 99% IPA, but never tried freezing it. I think the crystal mat is likely to be mescaline carbonate only.

Maybe this works with the acetate if put in the freezer? If possible, can you do this with just mescaline acetate and see what happens? (SWIM only has mescaline HCL at the moment).