I brewed up a light batch of ayahusca last night and this morning, to drink one night this week..only about 12 grams of caapi and 2 grams of chaliponga..a light brew but it always seems to work for me..

so I decided to test a tiny bit..maybe a a 10th of it..maybe a bit more I dunno..right after I drank some yerba mate..
But I am feeling it! I thought at first that it was just some placebo from having the taste of ayahuasca in my mouth..but now I can tell that I am actaully feeling it. It's not psychedelic or anything but I have a really nice euphoric buzz throughout my whole body and my stomache is slightly unsettled..

There couldnt have been much more than 1-1.5 grams caapi and a fraction of a gram of chaliponga in the ammount I drank.

I am stumped..I feel like I took a light dose of MDMA almost..does anyone else get euphoric effects from only 1 or 2 grams of caapi vine? It feels really nice. I doubt the ammount of chaliponga is giving any effect..I would need to drink at east 1 grams of chali with about 7 grams caapi for it to work..so it must be just the caapi..

Caapi really is amazing. Such an awesome antidepressant.

wow, such small amounts. Thats great that you feel it. I dont have any experience with caapi yet, but it sounds like its a real healer.

its possible that caffeine might have something to do with this...

yeah I think the yerba mate is being potentiated by the effetcs of the caapi maybe..I never feel like this from just mate..it's not a trip or anything just feels real nice.

Who really knows..if things like homeopathy and spagyrics cangive effetcs maybe I am just connecting with aya's energy ..maybe not but it's interesting.

Someone should try just yerba mate with thh. Good things might happen

caapi is one of the best substitutes for XTC. certainly when combined with maté.
Very small amounts already have this effect.

The best natural XTC alternative i have ever tried is a mixture of a little peyote, caapi and theobromine.

It gives the feeling you get when you've taken MDMA, just when it starts to work. Only here, this 'rush' effect lasts for more than an hour.

It also causes a state of very deep meditation, without even making any effort!

Maybe somehow a low dose kinda sublingual 5-meo experience ?
Thats preddy euphoric isnt it ?
Perhaps it was caused by drinking the aya while the mucous membrane in the mouth was still soft from drinking a warm beverage causing it to be extra absorbent ?
Iv heard of ppl brushing their teeth, then gums and insides of their mouths prior to quidding to make it more effective.
Perhaps a combination of little things like this contributed at least.

Yeah a rush is a good description of what I felt..lasted maybe 1.5 hours in total.

A small dose of 5-MeO-DMT is very euphoric, with lots of pleasant bodily sensations without being psychedelic, and caffeine will increase this effect. 5-MeO-DMT also absorbs sublingually without an MAOI, and probably through the esophagus and stomach walls as well. It’s likely that the vasodilation effects of yerba mate would help the 5-MeO-DMT absorb in this way.

Also, the THH and harmine in the caapi would potentiate the effects of yerba mate by about 2 times.

Caffeine and theobromine containing plants are sometimes added to ayahuasca, they help clear up the mental fog effect sometimes present (caused by harmine) and also boost the psychedelic effect although sometimes the visuals are reduced.

I've never been so excited in my life hahaha wow I'm going have to try this. I drink so much yerba everyday and I'd love to have something to add to it without going into a long trip everyday considering I have to work

interesting, I have some chaliponga around and some yerba.
Fractal how did you prepare the chaliponga?

boiled it along with the caapi for a few hours in spring water I collected(no acid was used)..then took the brew with caapi and chali still in it, put it in a jar and into the fridge to continue exrtacting for a few days, then boiled it again and one more boil the next morning, strained and reduced.

I have also heard from a trusted friend that small amounts of caapi tea and cacao can be reeeally nice. But it has to be small amounts of both otherwise it can cause a horrible headache. The cacao must be very gently heated, not boiled otherwise it loses some of its properties.
I guess this is the theobromine and harmalas working together..?

Sounds like a good way to prepare for a journey. PerPLExEd tends to enjoy a few hits of cannabis as well as meditating in the dark with music. When another substance is consumed, the effects of the cannabis poof and the euphoria allows him to get the most out of the trip. He is very interested in trying this to meditate / prepare for spice/salvia journeys.

tomorrow I will try 2 grams of chaliponga with some yerba mate tea, and maybe some syrian rue seeds thrown in if I can find any. I am very interested in your method, but I do not have caapi right now. Did you use caapi leaves or bark?

and 69ron, welcome back. How was your journey?

I used caapi vine..not sure how it will work without the caapi..but there is some maoi's in chaliponga adn 5meo DMT is orally active so who knows..good luck!

Thanks

My journey was nothing in the lines of psychedelic, but mind expanding in a different way. I was away studying a nootropic which is not really an appropriate topic for this forum. I learned quite a lot and found a renewed interest in one nootropic in particular.

My frantic quest for knowledge in that area has slowed down a bit so I have time for my usual topics of interest again

Hey 69ron go post about your nootropic in my racetam thread please I'm interested

sorry to go off topic everyone