So SWIM finally obtained the much discussed substance THH, and will use this thread to post his experiences... SWIM is trying it slow, on it's own first, then some basic substances, then harder stuff later, this month should have the opportunity to do it with the harmalas in different rations, mushrooms, mescaline, dmt, maybe lsd, maybe bufo, weeds, maybe also try some 5ht, if the experiences are interesting will try some pharms like modafinil, val, racetams, maybe, will research.....

So SWIM's first experiences were pretty mild, administered 30mg sub lingual THH HCI on it's own, just to see if it's safe, held it under tongue for 10 mins, was difficult, tongue went numb, definitely felt something after 30 mins, hard to say if the experience was enjoyable or not, there was a numbness in the centre of SWIM's head but it wasn't unpleasant, mood seemed slightly elevated, there was definitely a brief moment of body temperature rise and I do understand what people say when they say it's like the onset of an acid trip... + 4hrs in, no nausea, seems almost baseline, not a particularly interesting experience on it's own...

SWIM threw 10mg into his vaporizer and it vaporized fine, interesting taste, similar effects to the sub-lingual route, obviously more immediate, definitely easier to notice you've moved beyond baseline, but it's subtle and not remarkable, yet.

Vapo'd some MJ an hour later, had some coffee, it felt a little more stony than before, but this is subjective, it basically added the MJ numbness on top of the THH numbness, yeah, pretty clean, but a definite mind fogginess, thoughts are clear though.

I think the fact that it is clean is good, but SWIM hasn't tried it with anything yet and I'm sure that's where it gets interesting....

SWIM is wondering if someone has experience with the mescaline+THH combo and can recommend a dosage?? SWIM is very concerned about hypertensive madness, but has never got visuals from mescaline before and was wondering if any of the harmalas can maybe activate them?

Which phenys are ok to potentiate and which are bad? (I'm thinking mescaline is ok, MDMA is bad for some reason, what about the 2c's?)

May do mushrooms this weekend, actually SWIM has a few things left to try on that, but was wondering if someone couldnt recommend a dosage there? SWIM still cant gather whether mushrooms are enhanced or lengthened by harmalas... and has no idea at all about THH+Mushrooms.

Will post experiences as I have them.

THH and mushrooms is one of the most amazing combos SWIM has ever tried. He likes to take about 50mg sublingually. It seems to make the trip very clear, and the visuals seem to resemble a DMT trip. Last time he only ate 2 grams of mushrooms with some THH and had visuals that resembled alex grey's artwork to the tee.

SWIM may try THH+Mushrooms on Sunday... Ntt thanks, wow like alex grey artwork huh? incidentally, SWIMs never been able to get visuals off mushrooms so this will be very interesting... how long did it last? what kind of mushrooms?

very curious about the idea that THH supposedly removes some the stimulation from mescaline yet doubles potency if enough is consumed orally? this would be awesome because the stimulation for SWIM on mesc is outrageous and again no visuals and no wisdom...

TO Ibeing789:

I am wondering how you do not get visuals from mushrooms. Obviously you are not taking enough or you have bad quality mush. Some THH or any rima will definitely help with increasing the intensity of your mushrooms trip. RIMAS will lengthen, increase intensity, and alter the trip. Taking rue with mushrooms to me is completely different than taking them by themselves. I don't find it enjoyable, but that was with rue and I haven't found anything enjoyable with rue.

But on the plus side I also just got some thh in. It's been here since tuesday and I can't wait to try some tonight. I will probably do pharma with with something like 100/50/150/2 (THH/Harmaline/DMT/Datura S.) I also have some changa so it will be interesting to try some of that if I feel that I should. And I have about an ounce of some decent bud. So I am sure it will be an interesting night.

hey kungpow, well it's funny you should write this because SWIM is coming down from 2g of dried hand picked cubensis now and the entire experience was vastly different.. it was good, it's still quite hard to type but yeah, as with everything now I can put down these past experiences to immaturity... and now I understand the difference I think. After about an hour swim felt kinda sick actually, very similar to the mescaline nausea, now I understand this better it seems like the effects of vasoconstriction, I was able to breath through it, but I ate some chocolate and drank a cup of guyasa that helped a lot or at least seemed to...the nausea passed after a while...

It was interesting, basically what I learned was that SWIM really had to "let go" in so many regards to really experience the psychedelic effect, it seemed like any kind of hardheadedness really diminished the magic... OEV's were still mild, this time there were amazing CEV's, but notably, still quite dark, I mean, SWIM was definitely witnessing cinematic visuals but they were "darkened" like when using regular imagination... with DMT SWIM usually experiences much more vivid actualised visuals though now I suspect visuals were there before SWIM just shouldn't focused more... and yes the visuals were similar to DMT but more natural less alien, was definitely a lot of mental stuff going on but not in a bad way, now that SWIM is older the stuff was much more manageable...yeah really great experience, extremely enjoyable... will try more with THH next time.

also SWIM listened to 3 beatles remastered albums during it, was cool, magical mystery tour was ace... very beatlesy, yellow submarine like closed eye visuals, go figure.... but endarkened if that makes sense... I know it's possible to make them full color but they it looked like the brightness was set to extremely low... next time, more.

Keep trying, you'll get there.

Also, using SWIM and I in the same paragraph sort of defeats the purpose, eh?

sorry... trying what? getting where? are you saying take more mushrooms??



Not really, it's just a mechanism, as long as you know what I'm talking about it's fine... obviously, I didn't intentionally mean to write I, I mean you know it's a mistake. I think we shouldn't discuss the SWIM terminology because that would actually defeat the purpose, but also it's been discussed too much already...

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I am a big fan of THH and Caapi Copy. I have used rue before and find it unpleasant with spice. I use THH and CC sublingually before bed sometimes to kick in the hypnangogic imagery a bit and I believe that some unconscious learning is taking place. With Mescaline it definitely takes that 'edge' down a peg or two and makes it more comfortable, sweeter(?).

THH is nice with spice, clears it up and slows it down JUST enough. Caapi copy with spice is like getting hugged by mother nature, the bliss and love are unrivaled IMHO. I have kept a steady supply since I first came across them and hope to always have access.

Good luck,

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Jason, how much CC does swiy use? and does swiy smoke the spice or take it orally?

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Yeah, about how much of the CC does SWIY use to get where he wants to be? Also, how much does SWIY weigh? And what are the differences between oral administration and smoking the CC and THH?