Not sure if this has already been discussed. I apologize in advance if it has. But what do you believe in? What is your truth? and if your truth is THE truth it should be everyone's truth. I have been mostly agnostic for the majority of my life. I spent some time as a half assed pantheist and migrated back to agnosticism.. an atheist without balls.. as Stephen Colbert so eloquently put it. but lately, I've been feeling spiritual vibes. I think it's because a love has come into my life. My first love. I useto not believe in love. I thought it was a device used to perpetuate the species. But anyway... nowadays I believe that there is a thriving spiritual realm that coexists with our physical one. I believe there is limited contact between the two but that it is attainable. I believe in ETs. I believe they have been present since Earth's conception. I believe that when we die our soul is sent to this spiritual realm where it's purpose is further decided. Either it is reincarnated into a physical body, left to roam the spiritual realms or at best it is allowed to coalesce into god itself. I'm not quite sure if I buy the alternate dimension theories but I'm open to it. also do you believe there is a difference between the place you go when you are actively astral projecting and where your soul goes when it's physical body dies. also I wonder if souls have genders.

[quote:fef5bc6494]But what do you believe in?[/quote:fef5bc6494] Not much. [quote:fef5bc6494]What is your truth?[/quote:fef5bc6494] Do What Thou Wilt. Suffering stems from craving/desire. Love is good.

[quote27d1b1fd5]Suffering stems from craving/desire.[/quote27d1b1fd5] sounds about right. If you desire nothing you shall always be content. If memory serves me don't the buddhist monks desire (a paradox ) to desire nothing.

I beleive in other dimensions/multiverses. I also beleive that we ar all expressions of the one thing, we are all connected but weve just forgot what we are. I beleive the world is an illusion and I think a lot of places spirits are are also illusions, hency my sig from a David Icke book, maybe it should be infiniteoneness is the only truth everything else is illusion. I beleive that dmt land is real, seems more real than here but still think thats part of the illusion, I used to beleive in God then went attheist then went agnostic then got confused, then maybe went crazy ! lol specially with DMT!!

I believe in many things but am not much for discussing what my truths are. People tend to demand me to back up what I believe but the same people have totally different experience and therefor a different truth for them selves and are not capable of understanding my truth because it's MY truth! It's based on my experience so how can I explain what I believe and not? The truth is more than words! A big part of my truth comes from feeling, it's beyond any words. Picture this: I have a certain experience that tells me something and I learn from it. Let's say that lesson took 7 hard years of work. How am I going to tell someone in 5 minutes what I learned? And there are few people that have the attention span to listen for longer and usually people want to talk not listen. It's like this mad scientist that spent 7 years of hard work at university and he's writing these formulas on the blackboard and explaining quantum and string theory to some teenagers. How are they supposed to understand these crazy math and formulas he's writing? And at the same time that professor can in no way understand the teenager trying to describe his trip the night before and how he became the universe and the thought of God and so on unless he maybe was tripping too. (I hope you get my point) Weird how westerners just eat up everything our scientists say without really understanding much of the physics of nature. The only proof they get of quantum theory is some formula they see on the blackboard that they have no clue what means. But when a Tibetan meditation master talks about other worlds most people demand proof. He can't write down any formula for other worlds but he has a different kind of proof. He might tell you to come and meditate with him for some years and change many things in your life and your diet and stuff and then you will get your proof but how likely is it that people go that road to get that proof. Weastern people look at the blackboard of the mad scientist and see a formula that they don't understand but still just assume that this man is right because he has a fancy formula. This people do not go to university for 7 years to understand the formula, they just accept it. But that same people might say that the old Tibetan meditation master that has maybe 60 years of training is just a crazy old man speaking of other worlds and God! Am I starting to write in circles? Maybe well no one is forcing you to read, I hope hahaha Well ofcourse some people maybe have similar truths as I and maybe I share some knowledge with them once in a while but usually people are desperately trying to make me understand that I'm wrong but they're right. But what's right for one can be wrong for someone else. And vice versa.

cool post hit the nail on the head there. [quote:84eac5784c]But what's right for one can be wrong for someone else[/quote:84eac5784c] Totally agree, [quote:84eac5784c]And at the same time that professor can in no way understand the teenager trying to describe his trip the night before and how he became the universe and the thought of God and so on unless he maybe was tripping too[/quote:84eac5784c] Good analogy Read somwhere on aya.com someone saying it should be mandatory for psychiatrists to take ayahuasca lol Do any of you guys meditate ? Im starting to try and learn it and dont think I would have tried it if it wasnt for the psychadelic experiences ive had. Been discussing this on another forum the whole meditation vs psychadelic experiences, heres the thread, goes on bout DMT but then meditation comes up it is long though http://www.davidicke.com...m/showthread.php?t=14742

What if the infinite 'I' consciousness wanted to experience the constituents of itself and started to divide? And to further the experience 'I' imposed a self inflicted amnesia to really understand 'Myself'. If so, then that would mean that everyones truth is the truth. Every ones lie is the truth. Why? Because its there thats why? Fear is the opposite of love. Fear creates seperation. Love creates unity and binds. What if fear was created by love to better understand love, so that when we come back to pure love with that enhanced understanding, that love would evolve to a newer level than when we first left it. It might be. Can that fit into any ones truth? My truths are constantly evolving. Ill try to give this belief a trial. See how it goes.

I believe the important question is not "What do you believe?" Everybody believes something. I believe it is important that we all believe in something, but what each person believes is only important to that particular individual at that particular time. As we grow and mature spiritually, our beliefs inevitably change. I do not believe as I did when I was a child. As a teen I believed differently than I do now or did when I was smaller. As a young adult my beliefs had changed significantly and were extreme compared to what I believed prior to that stage in my life. Even now, I do not believe as I did a year or two ago and hopefully I will believe something different a year or two from now. It is when our beliefs cease to change that we are at risk of becoming spiritually stagnant. When this occurs, we quit developing and growing spiritually and eventually our spirit begins to deteriate. And so rathering than asking, "What do you believe?" I ask a different question. I ask this, "How can we define the word 'GOD'?" The additional challenge then becomes to develope a difinition that can be stated in such a manner that it can be agreed upon regardless of religion. And so the best that I could come up with is this, "God is that which exists in all points of both space and time simultaneously." That being said, one thing holds true. I don't know. I believe. That's faith. One might question why I go from "What do you believe?" to "How do you define the word 'GOD'?" Well, there is reason for such madness and that is because no matter how much another tells us what they believe we will all have different beliefs. Even 20 people from the same religious community will have significant differences in their personal beliefs. They might have commonalities they can agree upon but they have individualities that sets each apart. It is this common belief that enables them to come together as a community. Now, if we can find a common ground between all faiths and religions then that just might be the first step in bringing the world together as a world wide community without condemnation of individuality.

i remember once hearing that every word ever spoken is the truth