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nexusdisciple
#1 Posted : 11/19/2016 3:46:31 PM
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As someone who is a fan of both cannabis and extraction in general I found this article and the end result quite interesting.I always heard pure THC was an oil but the pictures in the article makes it look almost like an alkaloid.



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Testing in at an astonishing 99.9% THC, Crystalline is officially the strongest hash on the market. Other concentrates such as ice hash, rosin, and BHO range from 50-80% THC.

Cannabis concentrates are known for their variety of textures and forms, from shatter to wax to crumble, there’s something for everyone to enjoy.

What many extract lovers don’t realize is that these various textures develop from the solvent used to make the concentrate and the methods of purging the solvent out of the final product.

However, when THC is reduced to its purest state, it crystallizes, creating crystal ‘rocks’ which look very different than any other marijuana concentrate on the market.

Crystalline turns many people off just because of its looks. The internet is filled with scornful reviews of its meth-like appearance, and this criticism is entirely valid.



But don’t judge a book by its cover because cannabis crystalline is the purest form of THC and provides sufficient relief for many patients suffering from debilitating and fatal illnesses. And hey, it’s not THC’s fault that it’s a compound with a crystal structure.

Guild Extracts, a Southern California extraction company, is the current leader of crystalline production.

Their crystallizing process is kept under lock and key, but they claim the ability to make THC-A Crystalline out of any starting material ranging from hydrocarbon extract, CO2 extract, and ice water concentrate.

One thing Guild Extracts has made clear is that they are not using a solvent to create this hash, rather, they are extracting pure THC from their starting materials.

You may be wondering, what exactly is THC-A Crystalline? Well, before THC is combusted (lit on fire or vaporized) it sits in its raw acidic form, also known as THC-A.

THC-A by itself is completely inactive, meaning if it is ingested it will not get you high (but it does have an extraordinary amount of medicinal benefits).

When THC-A is activated through heat in a process called decarboxylation, the acidic carbon atom (the “A” in THC-A) is removed leaving behind the psychoactive THC that so many of us know and love.

Now remember, this pure THC does not contain terpenes (the magical compounds that give cannabis strains their distinctive aroma and flavor profiles while contributing to their therapeutic effects).

To make up for the lack of flavor, Guild Extracts has become famous for the “dip n dab,” dipping the crystalline concentrate into terpenes extracted from strains like Goji OG, Tangie, and Sherbert.

While the sky-high potency may scare some away, Crystalline provides a surprisingly clean, focused, and inspired high. Plus, health nuts can rest easy knowing that THC-A Crystalline is completely free of any chemical inputs (think butane)


I wonder if they are being honest about producing without the use of any solvents I'm not sure how that would work.
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#2 Posted : 11/19/2016 4:10:30 PM

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Frankly i stay away from concentrates to preserve my ability to get stoned. With flower at 20-30-some-odd percent THC, it does the job just fine. Plus my experience with them leads me to believe that the terpenes are responsible fur certain characteristics of the high that speak to me as well and consecrated lack them.

But holy cow, 99.9%?!
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#3 Posted : 11/19/2016 4:35:17 PM

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Yep, terpenes and CBD are very important to the weed high. They are what make the difference between a disoriented, paranoiac episode and a fluffy, erotic, hilarious high.
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#4 Posted : 11/19/2016 4:36:59 PM
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null24 wrote:
Frankly i stay away from concentrates to preserve my ability to get stoned. With flower at 20-30-some-odd percent THC, it does the job just fine. Plus my experience with them leads me to believe that the terpenes are responsible fur certain characteristics of the high that speak to me as well and consecrated lack them.

But holy cow, 99.9%?!


Yeah this is definitely an novelty product; I've sampled both THC and CBD distillates and I agree that terpenes do seem to place some role in the effects. I wonder if there is any literature available on the subject I'll have to check it out.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/19/2016 10:49:50 PM

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Might be worth trying just to see what it is like. I think I'll stick to honey oil/shatter made with ethanol.
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#6 Posted : 11/20/2016 1:19:39 PM
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delta-9-THC is an odd-ball psychoactive*...It contains no nitrogen, and is not an alkaloid or an amine (it's a diterpenoid ), and can not be made into a salt by reacting as a free-base with an acid.
(a "freebase" is the deprotonated form of an amine)
(As THC is not an amine you can not have freebase THC)

So producing a salt from THC would be near impossible...

... but attempting to do the same from THC-A would make things a bit more feasible...THC-acid can be formed into a salt by reaction with a base, however these salts still have properties more like oils or lipids, and still do not gain much if any water solubility...

The key to it all is that it's an acid...

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Salts are the non-water product of an acid base neutralization. There are four possible acid base reactions that produce salts. They are the reaction of a:

1) strong acid with a strong base.
2) weak acid with a strong base.
3) weak base with a strong acid.
4) weak acid with a weak base.
http://www.chemteam.info/AcidBase/Salts.html

By obtaining THC-a, you have an acid to react with a base to form a crystalline end product from the acid/base neutralization.

(I've also seen the THC-O-acetate workups, however this is an acetate ester, it's not a salt, it's not water soluble, and behaves like an oil or lipid...)

(*The trans-neo-clerodane diterpenoid salvinorin compounds strongly resemble THC chemically and in chemical structure, but in no way resemble these compounds pharmacologically, as far as plant psychoactives go, I would say salvinorin-a and THC are unique)

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#7 Posted : 11/21/2016 5:32:17 PM
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It said in the article that they are keeping the process for producing crystalline THCA a gaurded secret, though I'm fairly certain that I know exactly how it's being produced, after some experiments I should know for sure exactly what processes are being used.

...I need to experiment first, then I'll go into greater detail on the topic.



In the first post someone made a comment about a solventless extract, yes, there are a few true solventless extracts*

»*rosin tech: this is where fresh buds are placed between parchment and then compressed with a heated press, the oils are pressed out of the plant and collected off of the parchment. ( many variations of this method exist, and most are high yielding for THCA )

*in Morocco the hash makers dry the plants and sift off the trichomes directly from the plants using a system various screens, the material that was sifted off of the plants is then processed again through a series of screens, and pressed into bars. This is solventless hash.

*THC and the other cannabinoids are not water soluble, when using water to extract, such as in "bubble-bag" techniques, you are creating a heterogeneous mixture, not a homogeneous solution, the water is not truly acting as a solvent, so cold water to extract can be considered solventless.

*scissor and finger (or glove) hash is solventless, this is the result of oils and trichomes from the plant accumulating on the scissors or gloves as the buds are being manicured before curing. (I've heard stories of ancient peoples having naked virgins run through the cannabis fields, then with warm knives the resin would be scrapped off their bodies and collected, and while I'm not certain if there's any truth to this, it would actually work, sort of like large scale finger hash...body hash...)

*Charas: Charas is a solventless hash produced by taking fresh buds and lightly rolling them along the palms of your hands building up a thick layer of oils and trichomes, this build up is then collected and rolled into pellets or bars. Charas is common in India and the Himalayas, but the practice has spread, and has been seen from countries in Africa to islands in the Caribbean such as Jamaica.

-eg
 
 
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