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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:
Just out of curiosity, am I the only one here who is actually watching this series?
well I would love to see the salvia episode, but I have no clue how to watch it when your not in the USA.
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teotenakeltje wrote:entheogenic-gnosis wrote:
Just out of curiosity, am I the only one here who is actually watching this series?
well I would love to see the salvia episode, but I have no clue how to watch it when your not in the USA. And i do not own a television, but I'm sure it's all over the internet. Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
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This upcoming Wednesday is a psilocybe fungi episode.
I can't believe vice does not allow free internet access...
I'm sure if you wait for a while vice will put them online for free...
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If Hamilton did a DMT episode, and showed an extraction on television, how would you guys feel about it?
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Just finished the psilocybe fungi episode.
Not bad.
The mushroom growers he found had some really nice equipment, and I'm sure they are good at cultivation, but I was somewhat astounded that they had never heard of Maria sabina or Gordon wasson, they were not the "hard-core fungi nerd" types that you would expect, but rather reminded me of cannabis cultivaters in the sense that they were great at producing a product, but did not have much background knowledge regarding the fungi or its history...
I was surprised to see how Maria sabina's grandson handled the ceremony...when wasson participated, the fungi were eaten in pairs, and 6 to 8 mushrooms were consumed, where Sabina's grandson said "only eat one" he nibbled the mushrooms, and only expected an hour experience from them...
The man who had the Psilocybe caerulescens growing in his cane mulch seemed much more in touch with the fungi, he said "most shamans are frauds, it's the mushroom that is the real teacher", and he urged Hamilton to consume the whole mushroom, when Hamilton asked "what should I be doing?" He said "let the mushroom let you know what to do", this man had a deep respect for the amazing fungi growing on his property, he encouraged proper use, use that was actually much closer to how Maria Sabina would have used them.
The "fungi nerd" Alan Rockefeller was the type of person I expected Hamilton to feature on this program, Alan knows his fungi, and has a passion for collecting and identifying them, most mushroom enthusiasts have this level of passion and education.
I wish he would have spent more time with Laura Guzmán-Dávalos, this is Gaston Guzman's granddaughter, she is an expert in psilocybe fungi, she is incredibly educated, and provided accurate and sound information regarding the fungi.
As for the kid in Florida and his friends, they are a dime a dozen, and that's really what it's like, I lived on the gulf coast of Florida at one point, this is prime stropharia cubensis country, and every person knows of a few fields, it's said that some farmers put something in their cow feed that kills fungi, which may be true, the farmers who don't are just as bitter and as angry as the one Hamilton featured, usually they will shoot you with salt rock and release their dogs on you, some will shoot at you with shot-guns, so it's best if a local guides you to a safe field, rather than just jumping into the first mushroom dotted cow pasture you encounter. I really did not see those kids as real mushroom hunters, they were more like teens who learned how to identify cubensis online or from friends, but that did not know much else, not expert by any means, and not necessarily the best representatives.
Overall I think it briefly touched on most topics associated with the fungi...it was objective, and presented accurate facts, there's a good deal that was left out entirely, but then again it's a dense topic.
I'm a bit disappointed that terence and Denis McKenna were not mentioned, as they introduced home stropharia cubensis cultivation to the United states with their book "psilocybin: magic mushroom growers guide" (published under the pseudonyms O.T. Oss and O.N. O'eric ) I wish Hamilton would have featured a better history of clandestine fungi cultivation, as well as cultivaters who not only had top notch equipment, but who also had top notch knowledge.
As a psilocybe fungi enthusiast and researcher, I was somewhat disappointed, though I must admit it's better than any program regarding the fungi that I have ever seen featured on cable television.
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This upcoming Wed:
Hamilton explores "Ichthyoallyeinotoxism" or "hallucinogenic fish intoxication"
It looks like he also explores primates in Madagascar which bite onto millipedes for apparent intoxication...
I'm actually excited about this one, it's an area where I have been doing research.
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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:If Hamilton did a DMT episode, and showed an extraction on television, how would you guys feel about it?
-eg
Drugs Inc. did exactly this, in the worst possible way. Take a look: http://dai.ly/x1f8tpf?start=2070This dood is cooking naphtha on an OPEN FLAME! This is far and above the stupidest most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, and it aired on national television! Despite that, the sky hasn't fallen down and there hasn't been a major wave of people blowing their houses up extracting DMT since this aired back in 2012. So maybe the concerns about the dire effect the mediaization of psychedelics by shows like Hamilton's are slightly exaggerated. I haven't caught up on all the eps of Hamilton's new show yet, but I did watch a good chunk of the PCP episode and I'm in complete agreement with you about the Wyllie interview EG. The 4 dimensional and holographic nature of sand dollars is extremely fascinating and is certainly worth of much moar study and discussion. It's foundational for advancing our understanding of physical and universal processes. The dolphin stuff was somewhat new to me, but absolutely make sense, and cetacean intelligence is another area that deserves much further investigation. Anyway, I'm off to catch up on the episodes I haven't seen. edit: I have to say I am impressed! So far the series has been interesting, informative, and entertaining. It was amazing to see the salvia and mushroom gardens up in the Sierra Madres and quite I'm looking forward to seeing what the rest of the series holds. 
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Just started the Ichthyoallyeinotoxism episode, and the first thing I see is Hamilton harvesting a Smenospongia which contains 5-bromo-DMT! Ever since I first purchased TIHKAL and read this entry: Quote:
TIHKAL
DMT is everywhere (pages 247 to 284)
MARINE WORLD
"Sponges have proven to be a source of brominated tryptamines. Smenospongia maynordii has been shown to contain 5,6-dibromo-tryptamine and it's n-mono-methyl homologue (dibromo-NMT). The corresponding DMT counterpart (5,6-dibromo-DMT has been observed in S. Ehina, and the more simple 5-bromo-DMT is found in S. auria ...
"another marine source of 5-bromo-DMT is an ascidian, specifically the tunicate Eudistoma fragum, which is a sea-squirt found in New Caledonia" ... "Another tunicate, of the genus lissoclinum, contains 6-bromo-tryptamine"...
"finally, there is a marine coral corganism, a sea fan known as the gorgonian, from the Bay of Naples in the Mediterranean, with the binomian name Paramuricea chamaeleon* which has been reported to have a number of indolic compounds present without any bromine at all. DMT is present, as is NMT.
-shulgin; TIHKAL
Quote:Two additional ring-substituted derivatives of DMT come from the marine world. 5-Bromo-DMT and 5,6-dibromo-DMT are found in the sponges Smenospongia auria and S. echina resp. I have no idea if they are active by smoking (the 5-Br-DMT just might be) but they are quantitatively reduced to DMT by stirring under hydrogen in methanol, in the presence of palladium on charcoal. A very closely related sponge, Polyfibrospongia maynardii, contains the very closely related 5,6-dibromotryptamine and the corresponding monomethyl NMT. I had the fantasy of trying to scotch the rumor I'm about to start, that all the hippies of the San Francisco Bay Area were heading to the Caribbean with packets of Zig-Zag papers, to hit the sponge trade with a psychedelic fervor. This is not true. I refuse to take credit for this myth. -shulgin; TIHKAL I have been fascinated by these sponges... I'll post more when I finish the episode... -eg
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dreamer042 wrote:entheogenic-gnosis wrote:If Hamilton did a DMT episode, and showed an extraction on television, how would you guys feel about it?
-eg
Drugs Inc. did exactly this, in the worst possible way. Take a look: http://dai.ly/x1f8tpf?start=2070This dood is cooking naphtha on an OPEN FLAME! This is far and above the stupidest most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, and it aired on national television! Despite that, the sky hasn't fallen down and there hasn't been a major wave of people blowing their houses up extracting DMT since this aired back in 2012. So maybe the concerns about the dire effect the mediaization of psychedelics by shows like Hamilton's are slightly exaggerated. I haven't caught up on all the eps of Hamilton's new show yet, but I did watch a good chunk of the PCP episode and I'm in complete agreement with you about the Wyllie interview EG. The 4 dimensional and holographic nature of sand dollars is extremely fascinating and is certainly worth of much moar study and discussion. It's foundational for advancing our understanding of physical and universal processes. The dolphin stuff was somewhat new to me, but absolutely make sense, and cetacean intelligence is another area that deserves much further investigation. Anyway, I'm off to catch up on the episodes I haven't seen. edit: I have to say I am impressed! So far the series has been interesting, informative, and entertaining. It was amazing to see the salvia and mushroom gardens up in the Sierra Madres and quite I'm looking forward to seeing what the rest of the series holds. The series is actually really good, I was worried at first, but after watching a few episodes those worries were put to rest. Wyllie is fascinating, he reminds me of Terrence McKenna, an eccentric in the best possible way...I got a dissociative "contact high" just from watching that interview, specially when he as sitting in the grass...I felt like I was on ketamine or phencyclidine just watching him... ...yeah, I'm probably over worried when it comes to psychedelics in the media, but it doesn't hurt to be cautious, I feel that we need to control the narrative around these compounds, and part of that effort is stopping or trying to stop the dissemination of disinformation or misinformation (or out right lies) regarding these amazing chemicals. -eg
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I'm curious, who was this "doctor ausculum"?...Hamilton shows a PIHKAL/TIHKAL style entry regarding 5-bromo-DMT, and claims a "doctor ausculum" had experimented with personally smoking the compound, achieving an altered state experiance...
When he collected the sample of the Smenospongia aurea sponge, when he returned to surface, the water remaining with the sponge had been stained a bluish/purple color, could this be somehow connected to the indole alkaloids in the sponge? this reminded me of psilocybin containing fungi which stain blue, it also made me think of indole: Quote:The name indole is a portmanteau of the words indigo and oleum, since indole was first isolated by treatment of the indigo dye with oleum -wikipedia ...I find it strange that indole compounds are often connected to blue or purple coloring in the organisms that contain them...it may just be coincidental, but it's interesting. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23306892indigo from indole via biotransformative processes
The "dream fish" venture fascinates me, jason wallach was probably correct when he speculated that it would take a life time of research to get the situation sorted out... I suffer from sleep paralysis, and often encounter the EXACT symptoms that the "black surgeon fish stew" induced in Hamilton... Maybe the neurological or chemical disorder which induces sleep paralysis as a medical condition is mimicked by compounds in these fish? (Or compounds in the combination of fish and plant spices which he had consumed)... interesting stuff... -eg
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In the Ichthyoallyeinotoxism episode, while briefly exploring brominated tryptamine compounds derived from Smenospongia aurea, Hamilton mentions human consumption of 5-bromo-DMT, he claims the individual who had bioassayed the compound only gave him the name "doctor ausculum"
...now while Hamilton is explaining all this there is a PIHKAL/TIHKAL style compound entry displayed in th background, while in the foreground is a small brown glass vial, there is a 5-bromo-DMT molecule depicted on the label of the vial as well as the word 5-br-DMT, it's clearly in shulgin's handwriting, and the molecule entry which he displayed was clearly in the format shulgin was known for...
Yet, in TIHKAL shulgin writes:
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5-Bromo-DMT and 5,6-dibromo-DMT are found in the sponges Smenospongia auria and S. echina resp. I have no idea if they are active by smoking (the 5-Br-DMT just might be). they are quantitatively reduced to DMT by stirring under hydrogen in methanol, in the presence of palladium on charcoal. -shulgin;TIHKAL
Can anybody provide that entry which Hamilton displayed?
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This was exactly what I was looking for! Thanks! -eg
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Dr. Aditya Sardana is a sponge biologist who also has a book titled "ayahuasca-the sacred psychedelic" I wonder what Dr. Aditya Sardana has to say about doctor osculum and his reports...seems like a sponge expert enthused with ayahuasca would love this type of information... Plus the doctor possibly named himself after a piece of sponge biology... Quote:The osculum is an excretory structure in the living sponge, a large opening to the outside through which the current of water exits after passing through the spongocoel. -Wikipedia -eg
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This upcoming Wednesday at 8 on viceland.
Hamilton
Season one episode six : the lazy lizard school
In this episode Hamilton meets with LSD chemist Casey hardison in the Nevada desert!
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For those of you who are not familiar with Mr. Hardison, I felt I should provide some quick background: Quote:Summary Casey Hardison is an entheogenic activist, unauthorized researcher and psychedelic chemist who is best known for his indefatigable good mood and enormous energy. Casey attended entheogen-related conferences, wrote articles for the MAPS Bulletin, The Entheogen Review, and contributed to Erowid. After moving to Britain in 2002, Casey chose to fulfill a ten-year spiritual journey to make LSD, in part to make up for the drought caused by a major LSD bust in the United States. He was arrested and convicted of LSD, DMT, and 2C-B manufacture in Britain. Casey acted as his own lawyer during his trial. Instead of arguing he did not commit the acts, he argued that--as long as he harmed no one--he had the human right to engage in his chosen entheogenic praxis. In essence, Casey challenged the drug laws as a discriminatory affront to free thought, therapeutic choice and free religion. The trial judge rejected these arguments and an eight-week trial ensued after which Casey was convicted on March 18, 2005 on 6 of 8 counts and sentenced to 20 years imprisonment on April 22, 2005. On appeal, Casey submitted substantially similar human rights arguments but these were rejected and his sentence upheld on May 25, 2006. Casey then submitted his human rights arguments simultaneously to the European Court of Human Rights and to the House of Lords, the highest court of appeal in the United Kingdom. Unfortunately, this June 2006 appeal, though capturing the spirit of his perceived injustice, was not viewed as a proper legal argument but as an attack on policy. In early 2007, the Secretary of State formally opposed Casey's request for Judicial Review and Casey replied in March 2007 (see Reply to Secretary of State's Defence CM 6941). Casey continued to work through the British justice system to question the legality of his imprisonment, filing an August 2009 appeal against conviction on the basis that new evidence shows prima facie that the UK Goverment administers the law arbitrarily, giving rise to the fundamental inequality of treatment he experiences. After serving his time, Casey was released from prison on May 29, 2013. Back in the United States, he remarked: "Freedom is Ace!" https://erowid.org/cultu...aracters/hardison_casey/ Casey did some fascinating research regarding LSD synthesis, the PyPOB LSD synthesis was particularly intriguing ( https://www.thevespiary..../lsd.pybop.hardison.html ) , he also did some research involving 2C-T-7 ( http://www.maps.org/news...ters/v10n2/10211har.html ) -eg
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Oh! N the next episode Hamilton meets up with Casey Harrison to meet up with Darrell Lemaire... Quote:https://erowid.org/cultu...racters/lemaire_darrell/Lemaire began to look more closely at psychoactive drugs, beginning with Cannabis. Inspired by his later experiences with mescaline and methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA), and disheartened by the spotty black market for psychedelics, Lemaire decided to manufacture his own medicine. In 1969 he began to research and synthesize psychoactive compounds that were or might be useful as adjuncts for psychotherapy. In 1976, Lemaire married Betty Lamb, who often accompanied him on his psychonautical sojurns. During that same year, Lemaire was one of three chemists (the other two being David Nichols and Sasha Shulgin) who were inspired, independently, to synthesize and bioassay what they suspected might be a psychoactive drug with interesting effects: 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), an analog of the "love drug" methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA), which had been put into Schedule I six years earlier. Having previously found MDA of great psychotherapeutic value, it occurred to Lemaire to synthesize the methamphetamine analog, MDMA, and see whether or not it might be a useful substitute for the scheduled amphetamine compound. After making some and trying it, he felt that MDMA was even better in many respects than MDA. Lemaire's research led him to Shulgin's publications in the field, inspiring him to synthesize a novel ring-substituted beta-methoxyphenethylamine. As a structural analog of the neurotransmitter noradrenaline, Lemaire's compound represented an entirely new class of psychedelic drug. After Lemaire and Shulgin became friends in the early 1980s, Shulgin encouraged Lemaire to help medical doctors who wished to manufacture MDMA for use in their psychotherapeutic practices. Lending his assistance in this endeavor, at least 19.5 kilos of MDMA were produced in Lemaire's underground "wine cellar repurposed as an ecstasy production lab" before the medication was placed into Schedule I and he could no longer provide this service. He continued to make nonscheduled psychoactive compounds until the government instituted the Controlled Substance Analogue Enforcement Act of 1986, at which point he shut down his lab. In 1990, using the pseudonyms "Lazar" and "Hosteen Nez", Lemaire summed up some of his earlier findings. Within a small, self-published, underground pamphlet titled Certain Exotic Neurotransmitters as Smart Pills or Compounds that Increase the Capacity for Mental Work in Humans, Lemaire described the effects of 2C-D and its assorted ethoxy analogs, and presented several useful applications for these compounds. After over a decade with his lab equipment seeing no use, in the Spring of 2001 Lemaire gave the gear to Casey Hardison, a talented young chemist who had recently written an article on 2C-T-7 in the MAPS Bulletin that Lemaire had noticed. In 2005, Joe Brown and Forrest Niccum hired Lemaire to help them with investigating the potential medicinal applications for some phytochemicals. Together they discovered that salicinium—a glucoside of 4-hydroxy-benzaldehyde, extracted from the plant Helicia nilagirica—shows great promise as a cancer treatment, with a survival rate in Stage 4 cancer patients of nearly 85%. -eg
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Just started the lazy lizard episode of Hamilton's pharmacopia...
So far it's the best episode yet, full of familiar faces and history.
I highly recommend this episode.
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I am impressed by the journalism on display in this series. Hamilton Morris appears to be very sincere about his appreciation for psychoactive compounds. He displays his ability to elicit the trust of prominent figures associated with the various compounds he covers and his appreciation for culture behind them. Every episode so far has progressed with open minded narration, encouraging the viewer to see the real truth behind the lies of prohibition.
This is what coverage of psychedelics need.. It seems like the people at Vice are working for a change in perception. Their recent programming is documenting all of the positive aspects and history behind various psychoactive compounds. There is a clear consistent message that these compounds are healing and important for our societal devopment.
Bravo Hamilton Morris and Viceland!
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Artemis wrote:I am impressed by the journalism on display in this series. Hamilton Morris appears to be very sincere about his appreciation for psychoactive compounds. He displays his ability to elicit the trust of prominent figures associated with the various compounds he covers and his appreciation for culture behind them. Every episode so far has progressed with open minded narration, encouraging the viewer to see the real truth behind the lies of prohibition.
This is what coverage of psychedelics need.. It seems like the people at Vice are working for a change in perception. Their recent programming is documenting all of the positive aspects and history behind various psychoactive compounds. There is a clear consistent message that these compounds are healing and important for our societal devopment.
Bravo Hamilton Morris and Viceland! I couldn't agree more, I am really enjoying this new series. The old series was already a very interesting watch, but the new episodes go far above and beyond in terms of quality in just about every way. Hamilton himself also seems to have gained a lot of experience since the older episodes. Haven't seen the latest episode yet, I'm totally ready for some lysergic goodness tonight! "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." - Albert Camus
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