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#21 Posted : 8/21/2016 4:31:45 PM

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Nice Thumbs up

How quickly will that darker batch clog up the cotton do you think?


It's hard to say, from what I can see it's just chlorophyl and the cotton will last quite a while like this. I've got 400ft 24ga kanthal a1 wire though, I can make a dual wrapped .2ohms coil with about 8" wire. Japanase unbleached cotton wicks are also dirt cheap, and if you're careful you can rewick the coil without needing to replace it. I can't say for sure until we rebuild the coil but I think we'll get quite a bit of use out of it.

Thanks, I'll give it a try, got plenty of supplies gonna put them to use.



please do! Making ejuice is childs play compared to dmt extraction! Furthermore; I'd love to hear your feedback. The whole process barely took 4hours, and alot of it was spent evaping iso.
 

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#22 Posted : 8/21/2016 5:06:09 PM
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Cheers 1ce thanks for the post, any idea if ultrasonic cleaner would work in extracting dmt


I reckon it would perform remarkably better than traditional acid boils.I have plans on making a dmt ejuice (perhaps with harmala extract) and plan on sonicating it in citric acid, ph ~3. The unit I have can heat the liquid up to 80C.

I will be extracting from phalaris :3


Good I might have to try it, Ive done dmt ejuice for a few years and it's by far the best roa, but might try and sonicate the bark and see if it performs better than an a/b extraction
 
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#23 Posted : 8/21/2016 5:17:23 PM

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Cheers 1ce thanks for the post, any idea if ultrasonic cleaner would work in extracting dmt


I reckon it would perform remarkably better than traditional acid boils.I have plans on making a dmt ejuice (perhaps with harmala extract) and plan on sonicating it in citric acid, ph ~3. The unit I have can heat the liquid up to 80C.

I will be extracting from phalaris :3


Good I might have to try it, Ive done dmt ejuice for a few years and it's by far the best roa, but might try and sonicate the bark and see if it performs better than an a/b extraction



I use it to enhance amd significantly speed up an a->b extraction. What concentration do you use for your ejuice? Do you find it easy to vape enough?
 
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#24 Posted : 8/21/2016 5:38:09 PM
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Why what do you do, I use a 1/6 to 1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm, now you don't need to use that much because of the power and vapour production, I usually break through within 3 puffs, yeah it's really easy you don't feel anything it just feels clean
 
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#25 Posted : 8/21/2016 6:07:06 PM

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Why what do you do, I use a 1/6 to 1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm, now you don't need to use that much because of the power and vapour production, I usually break through within 3 puffs, yeah it's really easy you don't feel anything it just feels clean



J don't understand the 1/4 1/6 ratio. Supposing I used a premixed 50/50 pg/vg mixture how many grams of dmt would you dissolve in say 10ml?

3 puffs that's pretty damn impressive Very happy I can build coils as low as .2ohm
 
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#26 Posted : 8/21/2016 6:10:14 PM

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1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50


Thumbs up same here.

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#27 Posted : 8/21/2016 6:16:13 PM
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1ce wrote:
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Why what do you do, I use a 1/6 to 1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm, now you don't need to use that much because of the power and vapour production, I usually break through within 3 puffs, yeah it's really easy you don't feel anything it just feels clean



J don't understand the 1/4 1/6 ratio. Supposing I used a premixed 50/50 pg/vg mixture how many grams of dmt would you dissolve in say 10ml?

3 puffs that's pretty damn impressive Very happy I can build coils as low as .2ohm


So 1g to 4ml 500mg to 2ml ect, same with 1/6, so for 10ml I'd go for 2.5 - 3 or 3.5g, just depends how strong you want your mix, I use pre built coils but building your own is fine, get some stainless steel wire and use a mod with temperature control
 
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#28 Posted : 8/21/2016 6:24:45 PM

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sbc1 wrote:
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Why what do you do, I use a 1/6 to 1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm, now you don't need to use that much because of the power and vapour production, I usually break through within 3 puffs, yeah it's really easy you don't feel anything it just feels clean



J don't understand the 1/4 1/6 ratio. Supposing I used a premixed 50/50 pg/vg mixture how many grams of dmt would you dissolve in say 10ml?

3 puffs that's pretty damn impressive Very happy I can build coils as low as .2ohm


So 1g to 4ml 500mg to 2ml ect, same with 1/6, so for 10ml I'd go for 2.5 - 3 or 3.5g, just depends how strong you want your mix, I use pre built coils but building your own is fine, get some stainless steel wire and use a mod with temperature control



that should last a while. building coils is simple amd dirt cheap. I use kanthal 24g a1 wire. 4mm ø with 1mm spacing gives me .2ohms at 7.5 twists on a double coil.

for the extraction I just sonicate the plant matter, filter it out, freebase it, move it to the organic phase, wash with distilled water, evape, dissolve in heptane, and pour it into a crystallizing dish. takes me about 40 minutes from the time I start the sonicator,
 
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Why what do you do, I use a 1/6 to 1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm, now you don't need to use that much because of the power and vapour production, I usually break through within 3 puffs, yeah it's really easy you don't feel anything it just feels clean



J don't understand the 1/4 1/6 ratio. Supposing I used a premixed 50/50 pg/vg mixture how many grams of dmt would you dissolve in say 10ml?

3 puffs that's pretty damn impressive Very happy I can build coils as low as .2ohm


So 1g to 4ml 500mg to 2ml ect, same with 1/6, so for 10ml I'd go for 2.5 - 3 or 3.5g, just depends how strong you want your mix, I use pre built coils but building your own is fine, get some stainless steel wire and use a mod with temperature control



that should last a while. building coils is simple amd dirt cheap. I use kanthal 24g a1 wire. 4mm ø with 1mm spacing gives me .2ohms at 7.5 twists on a double coil.

for the extraction I just sonicate the plant matter, filter it out, freebase it, move it to the organic phase, wash with distilled water, evape, dissolve in heptane, and pour it into a crystallizing dish. takes me about 40 minutes from the time I start the sonicator,


40 mins that's it, it takes me a few hours do you get everything out of your bark, how much bark do you use, so as I understand it I put my bark/acid water into the sonicator, how long do I sonicate for and how many times, it's probably easier if you wrote an extraction guide like your ejuice one rather than me asking you questions, forgot to post this before for you
https://m.reddit.com/r/D...t_a_comprehensive_guide/
 
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#30 Posted : 8/21/2016 6:49:44 PM

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sbc1 wrote:
1ce wrote:
sbc1 wrote:
1ce wrote:
sbc1 wrote:
Why what do you do, I use a 1/6 to 1/4 ratio of dmt to eliquid, 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg no nic eliquid, I use to use 1g to 1ml but that was before sub ohm, now you don't need to use that much because of the power and vapour production, I usually break through within 3 puffs, yeah it's really easy you don't feel anything it just feels clean



J don't understand the 1/4 1/6 ratio. Supposing I used a premixed 50/50 pg/vg mixture how many grams of dmt would you dissolve in say 10ml?

3 puffs that's pretty damn impressive Very happy I can build coils as low as .2ohm


So 1g to 4ml 500mg to 2ml ect, same with 1/6, so for 10ml I'd go for 2.5 - 3 or 3.5g, just depends how strong you want your mix, I use pre built coils but building your own is fine, get some stainless steel wire and use a mod with temperature control



that should last a while. building coils is simple amd dirt cheap. I use kanthal 24g a1 wire. 4mm ø with 1mm spacing gives me .2ohms at 7.5 twists on a double coil.

for the extraction I just sonicate the plant matter, filter it out, freebase it, move it to the organic phase, wash with distilled water, evape, dissolve in heptane, and pour it into a crystallizing dish. takes me about 40 minutes from the time I start the sonicator,


40 mins that's it, it takes me a few hours do you get everything out of your bark, how much bark do you use, so as I understand it I put my bark/acid water into the sonicator, how long do I sonicate for and how many times, it's probably easier if you wrote an extraction guide like your ejuice one rather than me asking you questions, forgot to post this before for you
https://m.reddit.com/r/D...t_a_comprehensive_guide/


once for 15min at 55C, I've followed up with subsequent extractions but I've only at most gotten an additional 50mg dmt. I usually only extract 50-100g at a time, though.

then I filter it, takes 2-3min, freebase it, takes 2-3 min, pull it into dcm or chloroform, very very little is needed. I do this 3x with 10ml. evap off the 30ml takes just a few minutes. dissolve into boiling heptane and I'm done.

I've got some acrb kicking around, and some aq1. I need more dcm and some tubing for my condenser, but I can probably document an extraction/ejuice thread for the nexus. probably a wrek to a week amd a half.
 
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#31 Posted : 8/21/2016 7:24:59 PM
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Cheers mate, yeah definitely can't wait for it, I'd love to learn more especially by someone who has a lot more chemistry knowledge than me
 
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#32 Posted : 8/22/2016 12:18:24 AM

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Cheers mate, yeah definitely can't wait for it, I'd love to learn more especially by someone who has a lot more chemistry knowledge than me


Cool man, I'll show you how I obtain my dcm even Razz. Where I livr its pretty hard to get shippingwise. So some ingenuity required :3.
 
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#33 Posted : 8/22/2016 1:23:23 AM
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Yeah definitely mate, I love to learn especially in regards to things I'm interested in and from people like yourself who are willing to share their knowledge and experiences
 
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#34 Posted : 8/24/2016 11:20:24 AM

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1ce,

I really like the idea of using an ultrasonic cleaner for extraction.

Do you use powdered or chopped bark? Would it work well with chopped bark too? It would be nice to be able to skip the freeze/thaw cycles etc.

Do you think temperature control is necessary? Or might a device like that be sufficient?

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Cool man, I'll show you how I obtain my dcm even.


I'd be interested in that too, as I have a hard time getting it.

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#35 Posted : 8/24/2016 1:14:28 PM
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#36 Posted : 8/25/2016 1:30:57 AM

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1ce,

I really like the idea of using an ultrasonic cleaner for extraction.

Do you use powdered or chopped bark? Would it work well with chopped bark too? It would be nice to be able to skip the freeze/thaw cycles etc.

Do you think temperature control is necessary? Or might a device like that be sufficient?

Quote:
Cool man, I'll show you how I obtain my dcm even.


I'd be interested in that too, as I have a hard time getting it.



I origionally got one of these: https://www.amazon.com/g..._SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65


I use it to clean small things, small beakers, syringes, centrifuge tubes, my vaporizer tank. it's useful for everything. I did get a larger, much more powerful unit to clean larger thingd eith but this smaller unit functions incrediblt well for extractions.

I do use chopped bark as powdered bark makes blood hell messes when filtering. I've tried everything, I just prefer it chopped. Very easy to use.

Ibthink I've seen them cheap as 40$ on ebay.
 
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#37 Posted : 8/25/2016 1:40:44 AM

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my coolant tubes are got completely fouled up, and I needed to get more. If everything fits together nicely I'll be able to upload a guide tomorrow.
 
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#38 Posted : 8/25/2016 5:12:19 AM
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Ok cheers mate
 
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#39 Posted : 8/25/2016 11:33:07 AM

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#40 Posted : 8/26/2016 2:20:49 AM

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ok. distilling dcm.

basically I got a can of paint stripper, drilled a 3/8 hole in the lid, tapped a 3/8 hose fitting through, and clamped it into an electric kettle I got at wallyworld.

I fitted the hose connector to a glass hose connecter (one could simply tuck the hose into the condenser though), poured some water in the kettle, about enough to cover the first 2 inches of the can, and slowly increased heat until it started comming over the condenser.

alot of this can easilly be diy'd. they make sinkfittingsfor condenser hoses, 3/8 in inner diameter works well. so pretty much you just need any cheap condenser, can be had for 10-20$ online, a sink fitting, amr running cold water. you can just drip the dcm into a mason jar on an ice water bath if that works.

now I just wait until the dcm has separated from the polymers into the can an redistill. I will think of some diy ideas in the mean time.
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