Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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SWIM is curious of the pros and cons of just a simple acetone extraction of caapi leaves. SWIMS preffered method is ethanol but acetone is much less exspensive and easily available. So SWIM is curious, any thoughts? Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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any one? Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 5826 Joined: 09-Jun-2008 Last visit: 08-Sep-2010 Location: USA
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I don't think it's good to use acetone. SWIM once dissolved some harmine and harmaline in acetone and dried it and they turned red, so it seems to cause some sort of reaction with the alkaloids. A typical rue style extraction using salt and water is probably your best bet. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Posts: 12340 Joined: 12-Nov-2008 Last visit: 02-Apr-2023 Location: pacific
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Did you test them 69ron?..I did that tek with the salt, but I like to mix my maoi's with spice and dissolve onto a smoking mix..I usually use 99%iso, but mine goes reddish as well. Still seems active though..maybe I am losing activity though..what solvents would you recomend that I use to ensure they wont turn into those red crytals? Long live the unwoke.
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SWIM never tried the red crystals. He looked at them under a microscope and was seriously grossed out by their appearance. SWIM found IPA and acetone both cause red crystals to form. I donโt know what this stuff is. SWIM only used the standard tech which relies on water and salt to get decent result. SWIM has not done this kind of extraction in a long time though. Itโs very time consuming and SWIM just doesnโt have the time to devote to it. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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sorry i dont think i was clear... the goal is not to extract the alkaliods from the leaves so much as bring them into the solvent for evaping into more leaf for further concentration. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 5826 Joined: 09-Jun-2008 Last visit: 08-Sep-2010 Location: USA
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Either way, acetone seems to permanently alter the alkaloids when they are evaporated in it. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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any idea of whats happening there? any qualitative differences? Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 5826 Joined: 09-Jun-2008 Last visit: 08-Sep-2010 Location: USA
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I think they are oxidizing. SWIM never tried the red stuff. Under a microscope it looks gross and SWIM just can't stomach the idea of ingesting it. Take a look: 69ron attached the following image(s):  Batch-2-Dry-Hcl-16-400x400.jpg (264kb) downloaded 101 time(s).You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Nice ! At least it looks vaguely crystaline. Looks much better than bufotenine extract anyway  . SWIM would probably dare to test few mg of something like this under the tongue. Sublingual form is very interresting because you can quickly spit if something goes wrong.
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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well from that angel no one looks flattering... lol very interesting... thanks for the pic thats great. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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