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#1 Posted : 7/3/2016 2:59:13 AM

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I smoked through a plastic and aluminum 30 mg in one shot, but the journey was very short for about one minute and then began to decline.
What have I done wrong!? How to extend the trip 5-7-10 minutes?

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#2 Posted : 7/3/2016 3:16:22 AM
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Bigger hits, moar hits.


You could also take some purified harmalas sublingually before smoking. That would extend and intensify the experience.
 
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Perhaps invest in a better smoking apparatus...? Could you post a pic of your device?

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Tattvamasi wrote:
Bigger hits, moar hits.


You could also take some purified harmalas sublingually before smoking. That would extend and intensify the experience.



I agree with both statements. If your smoking 30mg in one hit your more than likely burning more than vaping.
Try spreading about 55mg out into 3 large hits that you can hold in for atleast 10 to 15 seconds.
And harmala alkaloid will most definitely increase duration. But be careful. To much harmaline can cause some not so comfortable body loads
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#5 Posted : 7/3/2016 6:33:37 AM

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The Grateful One wrote:
Perhaps invest in a better smoking apparatus...? Could you post a pic of your device?

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Now I do not have a better machine Crying or very sad My device is simply a plastic bottle with aluminum bottom.
The bottle was so little of white smoke, maybe I burned spicesSad The breakthrough was fast (2-3 sec.) strong, but shortSad
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#6 Posted : 7/3/2016 6:42:32 AM

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SachiTheSearcher wrote:
Tattvamasi wrote:
Bigger hits, moar hits.


You could also take some purified harmalas sublingually before smoking. That would extend and intensify the experience.



I agree with both statements. If your smoking 30mg in one hit your more than likely burning more than vaping.
Try spreading about 55mg out into 3 large hits that you can hold in for atleast 10 to 15 seconds.
And harmala alkaloid will most definitely increase duration. But be careful. To much harmaline can cause some not so comfortable body loads
I have used ayahuasca with harmala, and I did not like and I've had a lot of side effects, and I did not have such effects like spices. Harmala hard and predictable. Dubious pleasureThumbs down
 
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#8 Posted : 7/3/2016 6:51:11 AM

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Tattvamasi wrote:
Bigger hits, moar hits.


You could also take some purified harmalas sublingually before smoking. That would extend and intensify the experience.


Smile after the first powerful shot I'm not able to add some spice into the machine and set fireStop
 
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#9 Posted : 7/3/2016 8:11:33 AM

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Well first of all you need a bigger bottle. Use a 2 liter bottle. you also want to use a rubber band to seal off the aluminum foil. Put a little dent in your aluminum foil so you know where to heat. I would use 50 or 60 mg and I would also hold my lighter lower slowly heating the spice allowing the smoke to completely fill up the bottle.

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Keks wrote:
SachiTheSearcher wrote:
Tattvamasi wrote:
Bigger hits, moar hits.


You could also take some purified harmalas sublingually before smoking. That would extend and intensify the experience.



I agree with both statements. If your smoking 30mg in one hit your more than likely burning more than vaping.
Try spreading about 55mg out into 3 large hits that you can hold in for atleast 10 to 15 seconds.
And harmala alkaloid will most definitely increase duration. But be careful. To much harmaline can cause some not so comfortable body loads
I have used ayahuasca with harmala, and I did not like and I've had a lot of side effects, and I did not have such effects like spices. Harmala hard and predictable. Dubious pleasureThumbs down


I've had the same problem with harmaline extract. I made changa using harmaline/harmala 50/50 1 gram. Cappi yellow 1 Gram. spice 1 gran. And a little raspberry leaf for flavor.
With one try i was astounded at the effect harmaline had. Seems I over did it using both Caapi and the extract. I say one or the other is the way to go. Caapi ,having both thh and harmaline is better. Just a preference .
But overall I agree , the effects of harmaline can be quite unpleasant to some.
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#11 Posted : 7/4/2016 6:33:41 PM

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I would not recommend putting more DMT in your device, especially if you are new to this. If you can't get a proper experience, I'm about 99% sure it is because of your device and simply putting more DMT in it is asking for trouble (and rather wasteful since most of it is likely burning, IMO).

Research and invest in a different method of smoking. Trust me, it is worth the time and effort.

Just my .02

Carry on!

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#12 Posted : 7/4/2016 10:07:53 PM

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^^^ What the man said. Bottle+foil should be downright discouraged Thumbs down
Trying to increase dose to compensate for a bad smoking method Thumbs down

If you cant get a decent go on 30 mg, fix your errors first and foremost, leave the bad habits and stop betting on shackle horses.

Search the site on The Machine or the Sandwich method if you are on saving money status.
Or make changa and smoke that in a (water)pipe. Don't like too much of harmalas? You can make any of your choice mix ratio to your very personal liking.
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#13 Posted : 7/4/2016 10:11:36 PM

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SachiTheSearcher wrote:
...Caapi ,having both thh and harmaline is better...
You mean harmine Wink
Caapi is veeeery low on harmaline.

BTW there is a lot to learn from harmalas, like the fact that you have to learn to go with it before giving it a pejorative slap Razz
 
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#14 Posted : 7/5/2016 2:30:00 AM

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thank you all for the opinions and advice

I don't understand!
Now i have only harmala seeds. What to make of the seeds?
I should smoke harmala, or drink brew, or smoking extract?
please give me links with good changa teks

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#15 Posted : 7/5/2016 2:59:07 AM

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On the main page of this site there is a subforum dedicated to changa...I suggest starting there:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...t.aspx?g=topics&f=58


Specifically the "stickied" threads!

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#16 Posted : 7/5/2016 5:36:29 PM

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personally I go exclusively with changa of various types through an ice percolator bong this has never failed me so far, also I concur with ditching the bottle and foil method its a nasty way to consume DMT from what I have read.

30-100mg of 1:1 DMT:Leaf with various syrian rue harmala quantities packed on top of blue lotus leaf and stemens has been the sweet spot in 2 or 3 deep inhalations held for 20 seconds each, I am usually most of the way in by the time I am on my second inhalation.
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