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Lorielparr1221
#21 Posted : 6/8/2016 3:54:47 AM

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Look, I'm just saying what the doctor told me and they said I almost died. I never said I almost died when I smoke weed, I just said my trip is almost the same as LSD trip. I don't expect you guys to understand because I don't really understand it.
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#22 Posted : 6/8/2016 4:23:50 AM

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Lorielparr1221 wrote:
Look, I'm just saying what the doctor told me and they said I almost died. I never said I almost died when I smoke weed, I just said my trip is almost the same as LSD trip. I don't expect you guys to understand because I don't really understand it.


Well your doctor is wrong, if you actually took LSD. Otherwise, you should change the title of the thread to not include mention of LSD, since that would not be what you took. In fact, you have no idea what you took since you didn't use a test kit. You're not the first person to have an intense acid trip, so cut out the melodrama and accept it for what it is. You had a difficult experience, but you're not the first and certainly not the last. You probably did take LSD or some derivation thereof, and you were almost certainly in no danger. As has been pointed out, the heart rate and other vital signs you reported are well within the realm of normal experience. Personally, my heart rate reaches 150bpm just from walking up a few flights of stairs.

In any case, if you had that sort of experience off of one tab, you might want to see a mental health professional. The delusions of grandeur aren't typical of an LSD trip, but certainly are typical of a psychotic break...
 
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#23 Posted : 6/8/2016 5:05:33 AM

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Psybin wrote:
Lorielparr1221 wrote:
Look, I'm just saying what the doctor told me and they said I almost died. I never said I almost died when I smoke weed, I just said my trip is almost the same as LSD trip. I don't expect you guys to understand because I don't really understand it.


Well your doctor is wrong, if you actually took LSD. Otherwise, you should change the title of the thread to not include mention of LSD, since that would not be what you took. In fact, you have no idea what you took since you didn't use a test kit. You're not the first person to have an intense acid trip, so cut out the melodrama and accept it for what it is. You had a difficult experience, but you're not the first and certainly not the last. You probably did take LSD or some derivation thereof, and you were almost certainly in no danger. As has been pointed out, the heart rate and other vital signs you reported are well within the realm of normal experience. Personally, my heart rate reaches 150bpm just from walking up a few flights of stairs.

In any case, if you had that sort of experience off of one tab, you might want to see a mental health professional. The delusions of grandeur aren't typical of an LSD trip, but certainly are typical of a psychotic break...

There's no need to be rude also I did have a test kit. Also my heart rate was 150 a minute for almost 3 days I was in the hospital for 6 days and I tripped for 7 days. If you think it's over dramatic I don't know what to tell you. I'm just saying what happened to me I'm not trying to say LSD is bad I wish I could do it again. LSD is a great and shows you the truth, it just makes me trip for a long time which makes me not sleep or eat and makes my heart rate go up which is not a good thing. Im sorry if you guys can't just understand that. I'm different. Everytime I tell my story everyone just thinks I have some kind of mental problem. It makes me feel like something is wrong with me. I'm trying to find answers not get more questions that I can't answer.
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#24 Posted : 6/8/2016 9:32:11 AM

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I think what most people here are concerned about is having a thread where someone claims to have almost died from taking lsd. Its a bit like a tabloid newspaper headline making a similarly dramatic assertion without having much evidence to support it. As psychedelic drug users in this era of prohibition, we have to be careful not to fan the flames of public hysteria about the supposed dangers of these substances, as the mass media likes to do.

Hope youre able to integrate your experience over time, and as others have said, dont rush into taking more psychedelics. Yoga, meditation, good food will probably be more beneficial.

Incidently, you say you had a test kit, did you ever get a definite result as to what you took?
 
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#25 Posted : 6/8/2016 10:44:58 AM

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Lorielparr1221, please don't feel attacked or like people think you're crazy. What we want here is to come closer to the truth about a difficult experience you have gone through.

When questions are asked, instead of thinking they are to 'prove you wrong' or 'show you are crazy', please consider them as a genuine inquiry, to illuminate unknown factors in the story that can help both you as well as ourselves understanding what happened. The answer to those questions may also help other people in the future who could potentially have similar issues. I invite you to re-read my last post and try to answer some of those questions.

Lastly, considering all that has been said, I think people specially have an issue with a potentially misleading title. "Doctor said I almost died from LSD" , or "hospitalized and thought I was dying on LSD", or other such options would be more accurate, since afaik there is no evidence thus yet that you indeed almost died, only that you had issues and your doctor said so.

Either way, I wish you the best in your path, that you learn from what happened and I hope if you ever take such substances again, that you have better experiences Smile
 
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#26 Posted : 6/8/2016 2:03:49 PM

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You keep saying that you tested the tab yet you won't say what type of test kit was used or what the results were. From your report, there is no way it was real LSD, because 1 hit of real LSD would NEVER cause anyone to trip for 7 days no matter how extremely sensitive they might be to it. Also, if smoking weed is like an acid trip, as you have said multiple times now, that would imply that every time you get high, you are high for 7 days with an increased heart rate and almost die. You said you are under 20 years old, are you over 18?
P.s. Why does your signature say LSDSurvivor? Pretty much everyone that has taken real LSD is a survivor, perhaps you should change it to RCSurvivor
 
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From your report, there is no way it was real LSD, because 1 hit of real LSD would NEVER cause anyone to trip for 7 days no matter how extremely sensitive they might be to it.

Who says that LSD-induced psychosis doesn't last 7 days?

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#28 Posted : 6/8/2016 8:50:34 PM

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I used ehrlich's reagent testing kit.
The results were the LSD turned purple.
I don't have any pre-existing heart problems.
I changed my title to Doctors said I almost died from LSD.
I understand where you guys are coming from. You don't want LSD to look bad and you guys are right REAL LSD can't really kill someone but It could Kill me because I'm not like other people my trip told me that. I just can't do things like psychedelics because I can't come down from the trip by myself. I just wanted to see if anyone had an experience similar to mine. Also if someone could give me some reasons of why that might of happened to me. Sorry if I made it over dramatic I was just letting out how I feel. I had the best Trip that anyone could ever imagine. I don't regret taking this drug it changed my life and thought me to love more than anything.

Ps. If I feel like what you say is rude I'm not going to reply anymore. Please just ask me nicely and I will answer any question you have for me.

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#29 Posted : 6/8/2016 9:22:54 PM

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Ufostrahlen wrote:

Who says that LSD-induced psychosis doesn't last 7 days?
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Sorry to hear about the bad experience of yours. Psychedelics might be not for you, nothing wrong with it. And i think Ufostrahlen said it all. Your mind and body might not be able to undergo such experience.
I had a buddy who went psycho because of smoking a joint. I just cant imagine if he would take something like lsd. X) Everybody are different. Remember a french girl who killed herself on shrooms in Netherlands ? She just could not handle it. etc..
Now about doctors.. Sorry but they are full of sh*t.. they said it to you just to scare you, so you could stay away from the drugs in the future.

Be well dude
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#30 Posted : 6/8/2016 10:16:09 PM
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Perhaps Ayahuasca would be more suitable for you than LSD?
 
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#31 Posted : 6/8/2016 10:47:31 PM

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Perhaps Ayahuasca would be more suitable for you than LSD?

Because aya has no health concerns or is easier to handle than LSD?
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#32 Posted : 6/8/2016 10:58:29 PM

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Lorielparr1221 wrote:
I used ehrlich's reagent testing kit.
The results were the LSD turned purple.
I don't have any pre-existing heart problems.
I changed my title to Doctors said I almost died from LSD.
I understand where you guys are coming from. You don't want LSD to look bad and you guys are right REAL LSD can't really kill someone but It could Kill me because I'm not like other people my trip told me that. I just can't do things like psychedelics because I can't come down from the trip by myself. I just wanted to see if anyone had an experience similar to mine. Also if someone could give me some reasons of why that might of happened to me. Sorry if I made it over dramatic I was just letting out how I feel. I had the best Trip that anyone could ever imagine. I don't regret taking this drug it changed my life and thought me to love more than anything.

Ps. If I feel like what you say is rude I'm not going to reply anymore. Please just ask me nicely and I will answer any question you have for me.




Thanks for the answers Smile

Ehrlich turning purple is definitely a good sign. There are still a couple of LSD analogues that can turn purple with ehrlich, like AL-LAD for example, but they are rarely mislabelled as LSD.. And there is no evidence those analogues would be more dangerous than LSD. In any case you can use hofmann reagent that bunk police sells, it will also turn purple with LSD and not with those other analogues (at least not the ones tested so far) so that would be a good confirmation test.

Good to know about your heart, and I think you did the right thing with the title, thanks for that Smile

I am tending towards the hypothesis that it was just a very difficult LSD experience exacerbated by extreme personal sensitivity and bad setting (and possibly previous psychological issues? ) ? It is not far fetched to imagine that someone having a longer-lasting psychological difficulty after a psychedelic experience will have a higher heart rate due to fear/stress.

Do you have any history of psychological/psychiatric issues, or anything in your close family related to it? Also, sorry if you answered this already but did you ever consume LSD or other psychedelics before and if so, how were your experiences?

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#33 Posted : 6/8/2016 11:01:27 PM

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Perhaps Ayahuasca would be more suitable for you than LSD?


Not the best advice for someone who has a difficult time with marijuana and LSD.

My advice for the OP would be not to ingest any psychedelics.
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#34 Posted : 6/9/2016 12:08:48 AM

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It's good to know that you are fine, the whole experience could have gone very wrong.


I think that right now you need to focus on one thing for the time being. Being sober and not taking any substances, probably not even weed.
What you need right now is integration. Take time to reflect on what you experienced without judging it (forgetting the whole "people think I'm crazy", "nobody believes me"Pleased and taking for what it is: a powerful experience from which you can learn.
If you feel that people in real life can't relate to what you experienced, then no big deal, don't talk to them about it.

Take the time to read about similar experiences from other people, articles about it, ask questions on this forum etc.


If you take the time to do that and with a little bit of patience, you'll see that in a few months you will be able to integrate what happened to you in a constructive manner.


If you'll ever have the need to try psychedelics again after this period of integration, I would suggest doing it with a very LOW dose, and taking proper care of the set and setting. Low doses often lead to more constructive, positive, useful experiences in my opinion. "More" is not necessarily "better".
 
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#35 Posted : 6/9/2016 2:26:56 AM

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JustATourist wrote:
It's good to know that you are fine, the whole experience could have gone very wrong.


I think that right now you need to focus on one thing for the time being. Being sober and not taking any substances, probably not even weed.
What you need right now is integration. Take time to reflect on what you experienced without judging it (forgetting the whole "people think I'm crazy", "nobody believes me"Pleased and taking for what it is: a powerful experience from which you can learn.
If you feel that people in real life can't relate to what you experienced, then no big deal, don't talk to them about it.

Take the time to read about similar experiences from other people, articles about it, ask questions on this forum etc.


If you take the time to do that and with a little bit of patience, you'll see that in a few months you will be able to integrate what happened to you in a constructive manner.


If you'll ever have the need to try psychedelics again after this period of integration, I would suggest doing it with a very LOW dose, and taking proper care of the set and setting. Low doses often lead to more constructive, positive, useful experiences in my opinion. "More" is not necessarily "better".


AAAND a promotion vote goes to the tourist for that great advice.
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#36 Posted : 6/9/2016 3:50:13 AM
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null24 wrote:
ShamensStamen wrote:
Perhaps Ayahuasca would be more suitable for you than LSD?

Because aya has no health concerns or is easier to handle than LSD?
Wut?


DmnStr8 wrote:
ShamensStamen wrote:
Perhaps Ayahuasca would be more suitable for you than LSD?


Not the best advice for someone who has a difficult time with marijuana and LSD.

My advice for the OP would be not to ingest any psychedelics.



The only reason i said that is because for me, Ayahuasca is a lot better than LSD. The body knows just what to do with DMT, there's no week long after-effects like i've gotten with LSD, yes it's intense/hardcore, and can be terrifying, but ime it seems to be the better option, for me anyways. LSD, while interesting, just hasn't shown me that it's my thing, oral DMT is more my thing. I of course wouldn't recommend people do something if they don't feel like they should, by no means, but even at times when i've had an intense/overwhelming and scary experience (on occasions to the point of saying never again, never again), i simply go back again sometime afterwards and then i remember why i love this stuff. So even if people think they can't do it, or shouldn't do it, i feel like if you push that fear aside and have a good experience (music helps), then any post-traumatic experience stress or anxiety or panic or worries, all that seems to go away for me personally and it's like i get reset.

Like with any intense Psychedelic, things can get rough, sometimes scary, sometimes you can have some anxiety that's been triggered or something, i know i have, but once i reset myself, things go back to being fine for me again.

So, not saying someone should or shouldn't, but ime it could help, or it could make things worse, but proper preparation with mindset and setting, and perhaps music, can really help to take the edge off. Also one can mix different plants with Ayahuasca, some of which can calm things down a bit, help relieve anxiety/fear/panic, and make for a better feeling medicine that's not so rough, but that's one thing i like about Ayahuasca, it has so many different flavors, unlike LSD which is just one compound, though i have wondered if different plants and such would synergize with it in similar ways to what they do with Ayahuasca, idk though.

Also, Lemon essential oil seems to do really well with Cannabis, and Ayahuasca, and i've noticed it makes the Cannabis feel better with little to no anxiety. It can also help with the Harmala-related nausea/vomiting and body load, depending on the dosage of Lemon EO. Lemon Balm is another good plant that helps calm me during Ayahuasca. Another plant would be Celastrus seed tea, which definitely helps me feel better when smoking Cannabis. I used to love Cannabis, but Ayahuasca changed that, i don't like the Cannabis headspace much anymore, but taking things like Lemon EO or different plants and then smoking, things are better for me.

Also, perhaps it's worth a try taking just the Rue or Caapi (or both Rue and Caapi), or Rue with Lemon EO or some other plants, because i do feel they have some uses/benefits aside from combining it with DMT.
 
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#37 Posted : 6/9/2016 5:01:11 AM

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JustATourist wrote:
It's good to know that you are fine, the whole experience could have gone very wrong.


I think that right now you need to focus on one thing for the time being. Being sober and not taking any substances, probably not even weed.
What you need right now is integration. Take time to reflect on what you experienced without judging it (forgetting the whole "people think I'm crazy", "nobody believes me"Pleased and taking for what it is: a powerful experience from which you can learn.
If you feel that people in real life can't relate to what you experienced, then no big deal, don't talk to them about it.

Take the time to read about similar experiences from other people, articles about it, ask questions on this forum etc.


If you take the time to do that and with a little bit of patience, you'll see that in a few months you will be able to integrate what happened to you in a constructive manner.


If you'll ever have the need to try psychedelics again after this period of integration, I would suggest doing it with a very LOW dose, and taking proper care of the set and setting. Low doses often lead to more constructive, positive, useful experiences in my opinion. "More" is not necessarily "better".


Thank you for the advice. I really needed some good advice that's why I put this post up mostly. Smile
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#38 Posted : 6/9/2016 5:12:58 AM

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endlessness wrote:
Lorielparr1221 wrote:
I used ehrlich's reagent testing kit.
The results were the LSD turned purple.
I don't have any pre-existing heart problems.
I changed my title to Doctors said I almost died from LSD.
I understand where you guys are coming from. You don't want LSD to look bad and you guys are right REAL LSD can't really kill someone but It could Kill me because I'm not like other people my trip told me that. I just can't do things like psychedelics because I can't come down from the trip by myself. I just wanted to see if anyone had an experience similar to mine. Also if someone could give me some reasons of why that might of happened to me. Sorry if I made it over dramatic I was just letting out how I feel. I had the best Trip that anyone could ever imagine. I don't regret taking this drug it changed my life and thought me to love more than anything.

Ps. If I feel like what you say is rude I'm not going to reply anymore. Please just ask me nicely and I will answer any question you have for me.




Thanks for the answers Smile

Ehrlich turning purple is definitely a good sign. There are still a couple of LSD analogues that can turn purple with ehrlich, like AL-LAD for example, but they are rarely mislabelled as LSD.. And there is no evidence those analogues would be more dangerous than LSD. In any case you can use hofmann reagent that bunk police sells, it will also turn purple with LSD and not with those other analogues (at least not the ones tested so far) so that would be a good confirmation test.

Good to know about your heart, and I think you did the right thing with the title, thanks for that Smile

I am tending towards the hypothesis that it was just a very difficult LSD experience exacerbated by extreme personal sensitivity and bad setting (and possibly previous psychological issues? ) ? It is not far fetched to imagine that someone having a longer-lasting psychological difficulty after a psychedelic experience will have a higher heart rate due to fear/stress.

Do you have any history of psychological/psychiatric issues, or anything in your close family related to it? Also, sorry if you answered this already but did you ever consume LSD or other psychedelics before and if so, how were your experiences?

Be well!


It was a very good experience that I would never take back. Just not the best ending.
I don't have any previous psychological problems.
I don't have any history of psychological/psychiatric issues or my family has not.
And no that was my first time. Smile

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Lorielparr1221 wrote:
You don't want LSD to look bad and you guys are right REAL LSD can't really kill someone but It could Kill me because I'm not like other people my trip told me that.

LSD can kill people. Voices telling you that you should commit suicide? In the literature since the 60s (where the hippie phenomena was in it's infancy and it was legal)

Quote:
Study | Patients (n) | Sessions | Suicide attempts | Suicides | Prolonged psychotic reactions
Cohen [8] | Approx. 5,000 | Approx. 25,000 | 1.2:1,000 | 0.4:1,000 | 1.6:1,000

An extensive number of individuals participated in LSD
research, with Passie [2] estimating some 10,000 patients
participating in research of the 1950s and 1960s. The in-
cidence of psychotic reactions, suicide attempts, and sui-
cides during treatment with LSD, as noted in Table 1,
appears comparable to the rate of complications during
conventional psychotherapy.

https://web.archive.org/...apeutics_2008-passie.pdf

Another thought: maybe it wasn't the LSD, but the weed was laced with something bad? Like pesticides or DOC, PCP etc.

Quote:
A 30-year-old male patient developed a hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) after smoking cannabis laced with phencyclidine (PCP) or lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) 10 years prior to hospital admission. Clinically, he reported seeing vivid, saturated colors and caricature-like objects. The patient described perceiving objects or people in motion as moving faster than normal. He reported living in a dream-like state and feeling numb and detached from other people and his surroundings. Upon pharmacotherapy initiation, facility transfer, and subsequent discharge from an acute psychiatry unit, he ultimately committed suicide. Although hallucinogen abuse is common in the United States, this case suggests that HPPD maybe significantly underdiagnosed and undertreated. In some cases, this oversight may perpetuate years of unnecessary patient suffering and can ultimately lead to severe depression and suicide.

http://jpp.sagepub.com/c...897190014566314.abstract


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#40 Posted : 6/9/2016 5:25:02 AM

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Ufostrahlen wrote:

Another thought: maybe it wasn't the LSD, but the weed was laced with something bad? Like pesticides or DOC, PCP etc.


Stop If you seriously still think people are lacing weed with PCP or DOC, maybe you've been playing Ouija board with Nancy Reagan too much...

And if they can't differentiate PCP from LSD, and are investigating effects 10 years after ingestion, there is no scientific basis for any conclusion drawn therein...
 
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