Something like love is born from the spirit. When we try to break it down with reason, it doesn't make sense. Why would someone risk their life to save another? Well, love. Right? Right, but what does that mean?

Depends on who you ask. A evolutionary biologist would say we are programmed to imprint ourselves into the gene pool. Doesn't explain a person risking their life to save a friends. No matter who you ask, love is always irrational and illogical. But we don't exist to be purely rational computers. "When dealing with people, let us remember we are not dealing with creatures of logic. We are dealing with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudices and motivated by pride and vanity." - Dale Carnegie.

Spirituality cannot be measured, unlike empirical evidence. Empiricism is derived from what you can sense. In other words, what you can measure. Some say that the spirit is eternal and boundless. And from my DMT trips, I can see that. In regards to people who can sense chakras and things like that, I am skeptical. Purely because I can't sense it myself. Who knows, maybe they are BSing, maybe they're not. I have seen auras emanating from life, but only on psychs.

Releasing emotional tethers is one of the steps towards enlightenment. Specifically, this means releasing negative emotions. With positivity, you ascend. With negativity, you are grounded. Some people are constantly flying. Others are chained to the ground, only growing more bitter when they look up at the sky. But it is a self defeating mentality, they're just adding weight to their chains by being bitter. If one wants to release the people chained to the ground, they must stop flying and help. Which means empathy. Grounded, not by chains, but by compassion and empathy. At any moment, they can take to the skies again. I think it's incredibly important that we help every suffering soul on this planet.

Those who are too wrapped up in rationality are also weighing themselves down. I used to be that guy. It bred apathy and ignorance, mainly because I saw everything as futile. Psychs took off my chains. And now I'm flying to hyperspace and back. I realised that empiricism only applies to the physical world. The spiritual world, well, one must experience it to even attempt to understand it.



This can go either way. It might completely liberate them, or it might shatter them. They might try to analyse every singe thing happening, and their brain winks out. Again, could be good or bad. I've seen some people have bad experiences with any substance that liberates the mind. They were uber-rational. They thought that the psychedelic experience is unnatural. I think they were scared because they couldn't understand it.

Excellent post and it is my belief that everyone must experience this connection first hand to comprehend it. Unfortunately there is truth, and then there is language which points in vague directions and appeals to various understandings. Spirituality and empiricism are reconcilable without a doubt, but only for those who can perceive the ineffable core from which they are both manifested. I come from a background of hard sciences and last night had the blessed opportunity to engage with an experienced energy healer. I had always held some notion of spirituality, but to hold a full discussion with someone as deeply engaged on the polar opposite end of the spectrum was... beyond words. Truly one of the best conversations I have had and despite feeling I was well rounded to begin with, I felt my consciousness expand tenfold. I think people can benefit from empiricism and I feel people can benefit from mysticism or whatever you want to call it. Anyone who truly wants to engage reality needs to be able to comprehend it from many perspectives. It's sort of like if you want to understand trauma do you study the psychology or the neurology of the brain? In the end all paths can lead to the same destination and often times knowing many paths complements our journey and helps us navigate the unknown. But truth is after all truth. It is impossible not to see it, though it is possible not to recognize it. To say one path won't lead you there is... blatantly wrong

Yes i agree. As i said before there is no guarantee that everyone comes to the same realisations after these kinds of experiences but i think that the difference between being liberated or being shattered is less to do with whether one is uber-rational or not but more so to do with being closed to dogma and how open one is to the fact that there is always
something more to learn.

There are plenty of non empirisists that over analyse and have harrowing trips.
It could be argued that an empiricist would be better off after a harrowing experience and more able to integrate if they had the nuts and bolts type science of what had just happened to their brain explained to them.

So how do you feel about those who go on a destiny of thieving and such. Its their own life, and in an atheist point of view should there not be a view only of that himself?
In that case how can you justify thieving, robbing . pillaging etc.

Isnt it unfair to take whatever you want from whoever like not paying the bills but you got the product?
Though an atheist does not believe in anything how can you justify anything?

I don't really understand what you are trying to say. Can you elaborate a bit more?