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Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalism 27 45 %
Socialist 10 16 %
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hug46
#161 Posted : 3/12/2016 8:55:17 PM

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Legarto Rey wrote:

Satirical fluency is requisite for spirited, vital, sustained political dialogue. The "Fungus Goddess" handles psiloPsybin(literally and figuratively) with aplomb! The irony is indeed rich.


Is that some kind of aerie faerie way of saying that Anne was trolling?
 

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#162 Posted : 3/12/2016 9:30:02 PM

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^loph girl incarnate / fungus goddess .......
im comfortable with it.

anyone with vision is a troll by definition.
im comfortable with that also.
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#163 Posted : 3/12/2016 10:20:15 PM

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anne halonium wrote:

anyone with vision is a troll by definition.
im comfortable with that also.


I too am comfortable with my troll like tendencies but i think that they are far more related to my need for attention and narcissism than me being a visionary. Also i am not so sure that your views that Bernie is a Communist are very visionary. I am not a political expert but the kind of thinking that directly equates any kind of socialism to communism seems to me to be 1950s old school thinking.
Anne please dont take my following comment badly as i think that you are ok, but i also think that the posts that you have made in this thread are far from visionary because they are buying into the cult of personality that pervades politics rather than anything to do with the policies that are being put forward by the candidates.
 
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#164 Posted : 3/13/2016 7:28:35 AM

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^ im about accountability.
my first vote is always for monarchy.
then we know precisely whos head is responsible.
cult of personality just makes it more streamlined.

democracy as practiced is just a blame shifting scam.
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#165 Posted : 3/13/2016 1:22:40 PM
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Ufostrahlen wrote:
entheogenic-gnosis wrote:
Obama kills innocents in drone strikes, so what can we do? How can we save innocents and stop drone strikes? By electing Donald trump 2016? By arguing with each other?-eg

All you need do is shutting down Ramstein Airbase, that's the local hub for middle east drone strikes, since you need worldwide relay stations. But German courts don't have the balls to stand up against NATO war heads, even though it's clearly against the law. I mean who wants to die in a car crash because the brakes fail... Confused I guess all you can do is exposing the lies of the politicians and put it in the spotlight of the public. Be it those of Bernie, Trump or Obama.

“Be the change that you wish to see in the world.”


Obama said he would close Guantanamo bay...

Electing the "proper" public official isn't going to change anything, a politician could run on the premise that "I will close ramstien airbase and end the death of innocents from drone strike", and when this politician got into office, not a single thing would change...

I've noticed that real political change occurs when thousands of people gather in the street and demand it...

Exposing the reality of these situations is also an essential part of political change, are you post emphasized, Greenpeace would use a tactic called "mind-bombs", which were (are) actually quite effective, and are based off of the principal outlined in your post.

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If you charge off with some political agenda that is not informed by clarity, you are going to end up with business as usual. The road to hell is paved with good intentions but it is not paved with clarity.

-Terence McKenna


My aim involves bringing clarity to as many beings as I can.

Honestly I avoid political discussions, politics has been manipulated in a manner as to divide us, it's counterproductive to my goals, I feel that we must change the people we encounter on a daily basis, we must connect with them and bring understanding and clarity to the situation...

I advocate peace, selflessness, love, and compassion, and yet I'm still met with justifications for violence, greed, selfishness, and hate, and often times it's comming from good people...it's lack of clarity.

I don't promote peace, love, compassion, and selflessness because I'm blind to reality or human nature, on the contrary, I see the worst of humanity daily, everything that this world can do to a person to brake them has happened to me 100000 times.

I'm going to leave this world a better place than I found it.

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#166 Posted : 3/13/2016 8:25:43 PM

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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:


I've noticed that real political change occurs when thousands of people gather in the street and demand it...



debateable.
the proles are sheep low on the curve of anything usually.

there are strong indicators on history,
that NOTHING changes cuz proles are upset.
even if they riot wholesale.
^ proles are always upset, no one of substance or supply cares.

what REALLY happens is the upper middle class erodes, and gets pissed,
and then in turn, begins to erode the upper class paradigm.
without upper middle class minders keeping a lid on proles,
it essentially allows them permission to " go wild"

by the time the common fool picks up a moltov,
the game was already decided by upper middle class,
as they have already punched out the guts of the overlords.
my peeps just let em riot to rub salt in yesterdays news.

the mob is a joke,
its your assistants in the castle wich are most dangerous......
they have the keys to your gates.
^ when your assistants get pissed, the keys are loose, and,
any three fools can roll a bovine excretement cart thru the front door.
game over.

naturally proles declare victory. lol.

no need to condone violence, just proxy it thru being oblivious to it upon your enemies.
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#167 Posted : 3/13/2016 10:08:24 PM

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fascism is not the answer. if you look at any of the images involving a trump rally backlash at protesters, you'd see a lot of misguided fools advocating a fascist police state.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
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#168 Posted : 3/13/2016 10:55:45 PM

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fascism is not the answer. if you look at any of the images involving a trump rally backlash at protesters, you'd see a lot of misguided fools advocating a fascist police state.

They look like sad, lost, and blind to themselves people who have been waiting 25 years for an excuse to vent their frustration. I pity them
Inconsistency is in my nature.
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#169 Posted : 3/14/2016 4:26:07 AM

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I don't. They made the choice to follow a cycle of ignorance, i.e. it is family-taught, tradition.
25 years, by definition, is a generation. they pass on their frustration and anger to the next gen.
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#170 Posted : 3/14/2016 4:56:10 AM

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I don't. They made the choice to follow a cycle of ignorance, i.e. it is family-taught, tradition.
25 years, by definition, is a generation. they pass on their frustration and anger to the next gen.


Those formative years programs are difficult to shut-down, especially when cheeseburgers cost only 0.99c and Obama is a Muslim.
I agree, there is no-one to blame but ones-self; Let the path of least inconvenience be reserved for the Artificial Intelligence that is building the system to distribute sustenance to the disadvantaged of the world, and not for ol' Jonny Fatso who can't cook a high fibre meal for under $5.00, but spends $50.00 on a pair of shoes before stuffing his face with Taco-Bell.
Changing one-self is harder than palming change onto someone else who just so happens to speak a language you can relate to, and coincidently wants your vote.
Thats why I pity these fools.
Inconsistency is in my nature.
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#171 Posted : 3/14/2016 4:59:06 AM

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those fools need mushrooms. or mescaline.
white jesus and booze doesn't cut it, they still don't see the bigger picture.

investment bankers are the ones to blame, not minorities.
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#172 Posted : 3/14/2016 5:37:48 AM

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benzyme wrote:
those fools need mushrooms.


And us fools need to make mushrooms look as innocent as coffee Pleased
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#173 Posted : 3/14/2016 1:28:20 PM

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benzyme wrote:
those fools need mushrooms.


And us fools need to make mushrooms look as innocent as coffee Pleased

Bad idea to advertise drugs that can rape your mind to look as innocent as coffee. If 1,000,000 peeps accidentally channel the minds of demons, is this the change we want to see in the world? Better teach them how to switch mind channels. God, mushrooms & nature aren't necessarily meaning love and light.

benzyme wrote:
investment bankers are the ones to blame, not minorities.

Ray Dalio is practicing Transcendental meditation for 40 years and is head of the biggest hedgefund in the world. This might tell you a thing about Transcendental meditation, hedgefunds or Ray Dalio. I haven't made up my mind yet. The bio of Warren Buffett doesn't strike me as evil, too. And he basically invented the concept. Maybe blaming investment bankers is just an advanced mind program analogue of antisemitism. But that's pure speculation on my side. I think greed and envy are the basic fundamentals of all the unwanted outcomes. And what are greed and envy based on? - Fear - of shortage - fear - the mind killer. I blame fear for the meantime.

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#174 Posted : 3/14/2016 1:44:04 PM

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Ufostrahlen wrote:
God, mushrooms & nature aren't necessarily meaning love and light.


Look...
Just dress the Shrooms in a miniskirt, point a camera at them and tweet incessantly 24/7 about how 'Awesome' they look in this seasons 'New Shade of Blue'
and how they are dating Ryan Reynolds but he's just not 'right' for them.

I guarantee a million 'Muricans will be rushing into the streets demanding Shrooms with their skinny latte's.


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#175 Posted : 3/14/2016 1:50:31 PM

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cyb wrote:
Ufostrahlen wrote:
God, mushrooms & nature aren't necessarily meaning love and light.


Look...Just dress the Shrooms in a miniskirt, point a camera at them and tweet incessantly 24/7 about how 'Awesome' they look in this seasons 'New Shade of Blue'
and how they are dating Ryan Reynolds but he's just not 'right' for them.

I guarantee a million 'Muricans will be rushing into the streets demanding Shrooms with their skinny latte's.

Unleash psychotic behavior of millions? You sir, must be an evil mastermind. Wink

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Doña María believed in the sacred force of the mushrooms with the same enthusiasm that many people came to believe in "the Force" of George Lucas and Luke Skywalker. As the years passed since Wasson first came to Huautla de Jiménez, Doña María felt the force of the mushrooms diminish within her spirit. Doña María realized that with the coming of the white man, the mushrooms were losing their meaning. Doña María claimed that "before Wasson, I felt that the `saint children' elevated me. I don't feel like that anymore. The force has diminished. If Cayetano had not brought the foreigners...the `saint children' would have [probably] kept their powers. From the moment the foreigners arrived, the `saint children' lost their purity. They lost their force; the foreigners spoiled them. From now on they won't be any good. There is no remedy for it."

https://www.erowid.org/p...mushrooms_article6.shtml


If I were in charge of Psychedelic Megacorps Inc. I'd fire most of the classic ad personell and instead would include a very detailed MSDS (manual?) and a trip antagonist with the product. Maybe charge some extra for a 24/7 emergency hotline. Profits will be reinvested into R&D. There's no benefit in getting your mind raped imo.
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#176 Posted : 3/14/2016 2:05:55 PM

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Unleash psychotic behavior of millions?

Should blend in perfectly...ever seen Fox News or a Trump Rally?





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#177 Posted : 3/14/2016 2:27:54 PM

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cyb wrote:
Ufostrahlen wrote:
Unleash psychotic behavior of millions?

Should blend in perfectly...ever seen Fox News or a Trump Rally?

Mhh, I saw the white guy punching the black guy in the face out of the blue at the rally. Very bad. The idea of supporting Trump is obviously a stupid idea. I've changed my mind, let's have an _e_volution. Bernie might kill some Pakistanis, too, but maybe less than Barry did. In the end it's all about harm reduction, right? You don't get all things done in one run...
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#178 Posted : 3/14/2016 3:38:31 PM

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Ufostrahlen wrote:
Sphorange wrote:
benzyme wrote:
those fools need mushrooms.


And us fools need to make mushrooms look as innocent as coffee Pleased

Bad idea to advertise drugs that can rape your mind to look as innocent as coffee. If 1,000,000 peeps accidentally channel the minds of demons, is this the change we want to see in the world? Better teach them how to switch mind channels. God, mushrooms & nature aren't necessarily meaning love and light.

benzyme wrote:
investment bankers are the ones to blame, not minorities.

Ray Dalio is practicing Transcendental meditation for 40 years and is head of the biggest hedgefund in the world. This might tell you a thing about Transcendental meditation, hedgefunds or Ray Dalio. I haven't made up my mind yet. The bio of Warren Buffett doesn't strike me as evil, too. And he basically invented the concept. Maybe blaming investment bankers is just an advanced mind program analogue of antisemitism. But that's pure speculation on my side. I think greed and envy are the basic fundamentals of all the unwanted outcomes. And what are greed and envy based on? - Fear - of shortage - fear - the mind killer. I blame fear for the meantime.



yea... not all venture capitalists are altruists/philanthropists. looking at the rust belt, that should be immediately apparent.
instead, most seem more interested in oursourcing labor to maximize profits, with little regard for the welfare of the workers. there's a word for those types... sociopaths.
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#179 Posted : 3/14/2016 4:53:23 PM

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yea... not all venture capitalists are altruists/philanthropists. looking at the rust belt, that should be immediately apparent.
instead, most seem more interested in oursourcing labor to maximize profits, with little regard for the welfare of the workers. there's a word for those types... sociopaths.

It will eventually backfire. Garbage in, garbage out. I mean how can you believe you can own the world. Owning a profitable enterprise, yes. But not on the expense of the people. I mean there's always somebody who will outsmart you. And if he hasn't appeared yet, doesn't mean he isn't out there in the making. We all better have our business in order when he comes. That's at least what I think.
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#180 Posted : 3/14/2016 5:20:53 PM

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it's an unsustainable m.o.
nature/karma/thermodynamics eventually tends to equilibrium, but not without chaos/entropy first.
greedy businessmen must've ignored the memo.
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