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#1 Posted : 2/25/2016 2:23:10 PM
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On March 4th, 1971 terence and his brother Denis mckenna preformed the “the experiment at La Chorrera”.

Mckenna made a simple play on words regarding the date, saying "the day itself has ordained the command to humankind: March Fourth!"

And in yearly tribute I celebrate the date in true mckenna fashion.

As of 7:21am mountain time it is only 8 days 16 hours 38 minutes until the March 4th holiday.

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#2 Posted : 2/25/2016 4:57:02 PM

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That's funny, EG, I do the same. It's a catchy holiday, and it marks a distinct place in my mind each year it comes around. I've had it in my mind for maybe three years, and it's a good time to think about how things are progressing in the new year.

What day of the year is a command? March Fourth!
 
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#3 Posted : 2/26/2016 10:25:44 PM

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One of these days we're gonna create the philosopher's stone.

I wish Dennis would talk more about La Chorrera. So far I haven't found a really complete description of what happened except written in Terence's book.
 
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BringsUsTogether wrote:
One of these days we're gonna create the philosopher's stone.

I wish Dennis would talk more about La Chorrera. So far I haven't found a really complete description of what happened except written in Terence's book.

http://www.amazon.com/Br...enna-ebook/dp/B00A8KWLYK
 
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#5 Posted : 2/27/2016 10:44:39 PM

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inaniel wrote:
BringsUsTogether wrote:
One of these days we're gonna create the philosopher's stone.

I wish Dennis would talk more about La Chorrera. So far I haven't found a really complete description of what happened except written in Terence's book.

http://www.amazon.com/Br...enna-ebook/dp/B00A8KWLYK


Thanks for the link; I meant an audio description though. Reading long passages and books is unfortunately not something that I enjoy, although I wish I did.
 
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#6 Posted : 2/28/2016 11:01:33 AM
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BringsUsTogether wrote:
inaniel wrote:
BringsUsTogether wrote:
One of these days we're gonna create the philosopher's stone.

I wish Dennis would talk more about La Chorrera. So far I haven't found a really complete description of what happened except written in Terence's book.

http://www.amazon.com/Br...enna-ebook/dp/B00A8KWLYK


Thanks for the link; I meant an audio description though. Reading long passages and books is unfortunately not something that I enjoy, although I wish I did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=016l-x30Rfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alO9bd5lx5w
from true hallucinations (Denis reading)

Here's some YouTube links if Denis discussing the experiment...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhmCldK0-0g

True hallucinations was an audio recording before it was a book, the link to it is above, the experiment at La Chorrera is the center piece of this story.

If you have not read/listened to it before, I highly suggest it.




I'm surprised Denis even remembers much....

At one point terence said he turned around for a second, and when he turned back Denis was gone, Denis had run down the trail naked and was found in the church, swinging on a rope which was ringing the church bell....

Denis thought he was only "gone" for a few days, when in reality it was over 2 weeks...

Terence gives an amazing description in true hallucinations, but the 9 minute link of Denis recalling the incident (below) is a very brief description...Though I don't think it dies justice to the incident, you have to read/listen to true hallucinations...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=016l-x30Rfw


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#7 Posted : 2/28/2016 11:22:53 AM
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BringsUsTogether wrote:
One of these days we're gonna create the philosopher's stone.

I wish Dennis would talk more about La Chorrera. So far I haven't found a really complete description of what happened except written in Terence's book.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjCjwZfyyBM

The link above is "terence mckenna - the alchemical dream"

Mckenna dives into alchemy, Rudolph the second, Friedrich the 5th, Prague, John Dee and Edward Kelley...

Any way, if you make it to the end of the film, you will see how terence made a very elegant case as to how shamanism is alchemy, only alchemy was seeking the "lapis philosophorum" and shamanism has been in possession of it all along...

(Those who think mckenna was a spy should get a kick out of mckenna depicting himself as John Dee in this film...it's said that John Dee was a spy for Elizabeth, and did not even believe in alchemy, he merely used it to obtain access to foreign kingdoms, he was reporting everything back to Elizabeth in code (code he must have learned from the stenographica by Johannes Trithemius)....anyway, for those who say that mckenna was recruited by the CIA when he was caught for hash smuggling, and only held psychedelic conferences to spy on the psychedelic community for the CIA, for those who say these things about mckenna, they must get a kick out out of seeing mckenna walking through the streets of Prague dressed as John Dee...)



Most don't realize that mckenna goes deeper than his traveling lectures and the wild notions espoused therein. Mckenna was not a madman or a fool, and if this description sounds inaccurate to you, than perhaps your misunderstanding mckenna as well...

Keep in mind the real world work mckenna did, he published one of the first psilocybe mushroom grow guides (o.t. oss ; O.N. o'eric ; Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide ), he also opened (along with Kat Harrison , Ralph metzner, and others) botanical dimensions, a greenhouse dedicated to saving ethnobotanicals and the lore that came with them. He also laid the public relations ground work for DMT and psilocybin for years to come....



Any way, I could say much about mckenna himself, but would be heading off topic...

-eg
 
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#8 Posted : 2/28/2016 1:31:38 PM
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kerelsk wrote:
That's funny, EG, I do the same. It's a catchy holiday, and it marks a distinct place in my mind each year it comes around. I've had it in my mind for maybe three years, and it's a good time to think about how things are progressing in the new year.

What day of the year is a command? March Fourth!


That's awesome that myself and my small group of friends are not the only ones!

I (we) do not celebrate "traditional" holidays, we celebrate the equinoxes, and the soltices,
We celebrate April 19th in honor of Albert Hoffman's "bicycle day" (April 19, 1943), as well as April 20th (4/20) in honor of cannabis, we also set aside certain dates to honor notable individuals, such as June 17th to honor shulgin (June 17, 1925 is shulgins birthday) and so on...

Mckenna would always say "you must create your own culture", and even though by doing this you become alienated to a fairly high degree, I've found that's it's worth it.



Speaking about "taking time to think about how things are progressing in the year"...

Mckenna created a lunar goddess calender, with an extra month called "Remember" between August and September...

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One of the virtues of this calendar, according to its author, would be that it would help to free us from "solar paternalism", subservience to the myth of the solar deity (originally the Roman Emperor, now his successor, the holder of the office of President, Chancellor, etc., chief executive of the modern bureaucratic patriarchal nation state). The solar deity ruled over a static ordering of time in which everything, from the seasons down, had its fixed and allotted place. A calendar in which the months are no longer fixed to the seasons might allow for a less bureaucratic way of thinking among its users.
http://www.fractal-timewave.com/mmgc/mmgc.htm



I feel the month "remember" was named as such, not just to remind us to remember the Goddess, but to remember our experiences, to remember our teachers, to remember our plant symbiotes, to remember mother earth, to remember peace, love and compassion, and so...I see it as a time to remember all of these principles that may be forgotten in the discord of existence in modernity....

It actually is a fairly elegant calender system, http://www.fractal-timewave.com/mmgc/mmgc.htm
This link goes into detail regarding mckenna' s goddess calender.

-eg
 
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#9 Posted : 2/28/2016 2:51:15 PM
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There's much to be Said about what did or did not happen at la Chorrera, and much of it is neither here nor there. Regardless of what did, or did not happen, there's great lesson to be taken from this little known event in human history,

(it also speaks to the possibilities of experiance in which a human is capable of having)





Ok, so, the mckenna brothers had a theory regarding intercalating tryptamine compounds between the rungs of DNA using sound generated by the voice and the ESR of the molecules...hypercarbolation.

There's really no way to explain it quickly, so I posted an excerpt from true hallucinations at the bottom of this post where terence goes into detail

This theory, was the basis for the experiment at La Chorrera.

What's funny is the sound made by denis depicted in the audio version of true hallucinations to induce the molecules to intercalate into his DNA by matching their ESR is identical to "vocal overtone singing"...This must have been intentional, and was an excellent choice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1pcEtHI_w
Tuvan overtone singing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJdmTqRMvVM
Terence mckenna with Jill purce on vocal overtones, to skip directly to the phenomenon go to 1:12 into the clip.





Further experiments with the psycho-audible warp phenomenon yesterday raise some interesting new questions and enhance our ongoing understanding. I chose the term “audible warp ” because my experience thus far, coupled with what I have been told, leads me to believe that this all has to do with vocally generating a specific kind of energy field which can rupture three dimensional space. I do not understand if the field is electromagnetic, but it seems to bend space in such a way as to turn it upon itself through a higher dimension. Here is how it is done: One must take enough psilocybin to allow the sound to be audible. This sound we understand to be the Electron Spin Resonance (ESR) of the psilocybin alkaloids within the mushroom. The presence of rapidly metabolizing high-energy tryptamines within the ayahuasca acts as an antenna that sensitizes the neural matrix to the spin resonance energy of the Stropharia psilocybin. It is this principle that allows the signal to be made audible. It must then be amplified via the tryptamine admixture antenna to what is felt to be its fullest amplitude. Then, via vocal sound, this energy is placed into the harmine complex within the body and within the mushroom which has been, in some small part, cooled to absolute zero—the temperature at which molecular vibration ceases, through absorption of the psilocybin ESR pulses. Once this ESR wave has been detected, it will be possible to amplify it within the neural circuits by channeling it through the harmine complex: i.e., by imitating the psilocybin ESR with the voice, causing the amplified sound to strike a harmonic tone with the harmine metabolizing in the brain and thereby exciting the harmine ESR. Since harmine complexes are merely further down the same bio-synthetic pathway that converts tryptophane into psilocybin, it is possible to consider the ESR tone of psilocybin as a harmonic overtone of harmine and vice versa. Using harmonic overtones, it is possible to sound a tone which will cancel one or more of its octaves reflected in the harmonic scales above and below it. This is easily demonstrated on a cello: Suppose a tone, say the open string A, is sounded. The sound is a wave-vibration of air molecules caused by the string, which then acts as a resonator. The tone is heard mostly loudly in the key in which it was sounded, but it also sounds every other key of “A ” in the octaves above and below it. It is possible to cancel out the original tone by touching the string very lightly at certain harmonic points. When this is done, the overtones in the higher and lower registers become audible. If one understands the theory of harmonic resonators well enough, one can determine which overtones will be resonated if certain points on the string are touched. When this understanding is applied to molecular ESR res-onation, it remains essentially the same in principle. When the ESR tone of the psilocybin is heard via tryptamine antenna, it will strike a harmonic tone in the harmine complexes being metabolized within the system, causing its ESR to begin to resonate at a higher level. According to the principles of tonal physics, this will automatically cancel out the original tone, i.e., the psilocybin ESR, and cause the molecule to cease to vibrate; however, the ESR tone that sustains the molecular coherency is carried for a microsecond on the overtonal ESR of the harmine complex. This leaves the momentarily electrically canceled and superconductive psilocybin suspended in a low energy electromagnetic field generated by the harmine ESR. In so doing, it will regain its original, but now superconductivity amplified, ESR signal, which will permanently lock it into a superconductive state. As this phenomenon proceeds, it will automatically trigger the inverse of the initial process. The psilocybin, superconductively charged by mind, will harmonically cancel the ESR resonance of the harmine within the brain. The energy of the harmine-psilocybin complex ESR will be absorbed instantly into the matrix of the mushroom. This will cause those molecules metabolizing within the body and bonded to the neural DNA to instantly drop to absolute zero. Clearly this harmine-psilocybin-DNA complex must immediately separate itself from the cellular matrix. There is great danger at this moment, but pathways exist to deal with it. We will find that these molecules condense out of our bodies accompanied by a sound. This sound will be the harmonic ESR tone of this complex amplified superconductively and broadcast and frozen into the superconductive matrix of the mushroom. The superconductively charged psilocybin acts as an antenna which picks up the amplified ESR signals of the complex and condenses vibrational signals into a superconductive matrix. The opus can now be briefly summarized: • The mushroom must be taken and heard. • The ayahuasca must be taken and charged with overtonal ESR of the psilocybin via voice-imparted, amplified sound. • The ESR resonance of the psilocybin in the mushrooms will be canceled and will drop into a superconducting state; a small portion of the physical matter of the mushroom will be obliterated. • The superconductively charged psilocybin will pick up the ESR harmonic of the ayahuasca complex; this energy will be instantly and completely absorbed by the higher-dimensional tryp-tamine template. It will be transferred to the mushroom as vocal sound and condensed onto the psilocybin as a bonded complex of superconductive harmine-psilocybin-DNA. • The result will be a molecular aggregate of hyperdimen-sional, superconducting matter that receives and sends messages transmitted by thought, that stores and retrieves information in a holographic fashion in neural DNA, and that depends on superconductive harmine as a transducer energy source and superconductive RNA as a temporal matrix. This aggregate will be a living and functioning part of the brain of the molecular “singer” who creates it. It will be composed of higher dimensional matter, i.e., matter that has been turned through the higher dimension via the process of canceling its electrical charge with a harmonic vibration, transmitting that vibration across space (from superconductive transmitter to superconductive receiver), and then recondensing that vibration onto a superconductive template (the charged psilocybin in the mushroom), until the harmine-psilocybin-DNA complex condenses into a superconducting molecule. A molecule that is higher dimensional matter would, by this theory, be stable as long as it remains in a superconducting configuration, probably forever, since it is powered by its own ESR energy. It will then be responsive to command via endogenous tryptamine ESR (thoughts), it will be keyed into our collective DNA, and it will contain harmine as a superconductive transceiver and power source. Talk about a steep learning curve! I had never heard my little brother carry on so. To the extent that I grasped what Dennis was saying, he thought, and it seemed a magnificent thought to me, that the body is like an undiscovered musical and scientific instrument whose potential lies all around and within us, but of which we are unaware. He said that the mind, through an act of will, could use the singing voice to interact with the brain as though it were a color organ and holographic library all wrapped up into one. Dennis pointed the way toward a kind of Orphic science where the great advances would be made by using only the interaction of the quarternity of singing voice, mind, brain, and imagination. More, however, than a chant-induced, collective synesthesia was promised. He was saying that the laws of acoustics and low amperage bioelectrical phenomena, and our bodies, could be manipulated to give the experimenter a doorway into exploring states of matter and realms of physics involving high energy and low temperature that are, currently at least, supposed to be the exclusive province of researchers totally dependent on extremely sophisticated and powerful instruments. It became possible for a moment to dream that the powers of shamanism, derived from a millennium-old knowledge of microphysics and bioelectronics, was far in advance of our own. The doorway that seemed to swing open was a doorway out of historical time, back toward some sort of archaic completion nearly forgotten. Perhaps the shamanic traditions of this planet are the keepers of an understanding that uses the human body/brain/mind as its vehicle, leaving the present state of the art, which our own “scientific method” has achieved, a very poor second. This is really an old idea—the siren song of Pythagoras—that the mind is more powerful than any imaginable particle accelerator, more sensitive than any radio receiver or the largest optical telescope, more complete in its grasp of information than any computer: that the human body— its organs, its voice, its power of locomotion, and its imagination— is a more-than-sufficient means for the exploration of any place, time, or energy level in the universe. It was this idea that Dennis would set out to prove, to realize in the actual hardware of the dimension-roving lenticular vehicle that he was convinced could be generated out of his own DNA and living organisms present at hand in the Amazonian environment—the mushroom and the ayahuasca.

-terence mckenna ; true hallucinations



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Thank you entheogenic-gnosis for the listening materials. Very happy

I love listening to them as I drift into sleep. The next night I start it from where I last fell asleep.
 
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#11 Posted : 2/29/2016 1:41:54 PM
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https://archive.org/deta...vesOfTerenceMckennaTalks

https://archive.org/details/psychedelia_collection

You can download (for free) just about everything mckenna ever recorded from the above links.

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One of these days we're gonna create the philosopher's stone.

I wish Dennis would talk more about La Chorrera. So far I haven't found a really complete description of what happened except written in Terence's book.


Yeah, would be awesome with more details, especially when it´s from the McKenna´s , good humour and down to earth story telling.
 
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#13 Posted : 3/4/2016 11:33:54 AM
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HAPPY MARCH FOURTH!


Quote:
Rubrics and Tendrils of Richard Gehr
5 April 1992

Omega Man: A Profile of Terence McKenna


"My life is science fiction," Terence McKenna assures me.

We were discussing the events of March 1971, the weirdest month of this outlaw scholar's strange life. The place was La Chorrera, Colombia, a small village in the Upper Amazon chosen as the site of a psychedelic experiment that Terence and his brother Dennis, then 25 and 21 years old respectively, were convinced would change the world as we know it. The test involved hefty doses of psilocybin mushrooms and ayahuasca , the local dimethyltryptamine (DMT)-laden hallucinogenic brew. If Dennis's intuitive theories involving molecule bonding and electron spin resonances were correct, their thinking went, the conjunction of the drugs and certain vocal manipulations would summon the philosopher's stone of Hermetic alchemical lore, recapture paradise, and create an interface with the "memory bank of galactic history."

The results, although objectively indeterminate, were immensely important to Terence's ensuing career. In retrospect he deems the experiment a qualified success insofar as it catalyzed his research into time, psychedelic self-transformation, and meetings with remarkable mushrooms. When McKenna speaks today of a contemporary "archaic revival," the term not only connotes the way in which he sees Freud, surrealism, and even National Socialism as offering 20th-century recuperations of late-neolithic cultural modes; it also suggests Amazon afternoons spent ruminating upon the neurobiological foundations of shamanistic psychedelic practices. http://www.levity.com/rubric/mckenna.html


one needs to consider classic alchemy, a field from which McKenna drew vast amounts of inspiration. In the La Chorrera experiment of True Hallucinations, the alchemical concept of 'the philosopher's stone' is invoked (at times via the latin 'lapis philosophorum'Pleased as a key perspective of the spiritual-cerebral breakthrough outlined by the McKenna brothers.

http://www.lysergia.com/...Kenna/TerenceMcKenna.htm







Quote:
The Chinese understood that these temporal elements were in a sense creating interference patterns with each other much in the way that pure tones struck out on a keyboard will, through their interference with each other, create a melody. So that, for instance, uh, if I find myself sitting in Hadrian’s hamburger joint enjoying a burger, by this theory, there would actually be a relationship between that act and the emperor Hadrian’s campaigns in Britain before the fall of the Roman Empire. This is the amazing thing which James Joyce used and understood in the construction of his literary works – that a man, leaving his home in Dublin on a day in 1905 to buy kidneys to fry for breakfast is in some mysterious way actually repeating the peregrinations of the hero Odysseus around the Mediterranean in his campaign to destroy Troy and return to his faithful wife. Allegory is what we're talking about, but allegory has never been taken seriously by science – analogical reasoning is definitely déclassé in the better laboratories. But in this ancient Chinese way of looking at things, everything was caused by it analogical resonances with past and future events which had the same temporal elements embedded in them. Now, it’s difficult to go into this without resorting to at least charts and diagrams if not puzzling equations with sigmas embedded in them. -terence mckenna




What if trump was the direct resonance of Mussolini...

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." - Karl Marx




Happy March fourth!

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#14 Posted : 3/4/2016 9:33:06 PM

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Things that also happened in March 1971


5th - "Stairway to Heaven" by Led Zeppelin is first played live at Ulster Hall, Belfast.

10th - US Senate approves amendment lowering voting age to 18.

15th - Chatrooms make their debut on the Internet. (I'm unsure if this is legit)

16th - Muddy Waters wins his first Grammy Award, Hollywood.

18th - 200 die in landslide into Lake Yanahuani, Chungar Peru.

20th - Northern Ireland Prime Minister James Chichester-Clark resigns in protest at what he views as a limited security response by the British government.

24th - The Strasbourg Agreement Concerning the International Patent Classification is signed, establishing a common classification for patents for invention, inventors’ certificates, utility models and utility certificates, known as the “International Patent Classification”

25th - Tom Jones' "She's a Lady" goes gold.

26th - Bangladesh (East Pakistan) declares its independence.

29th - Development of a serum hepatitis vaccine for children announced.

29th - A Los Angeles, California jury recommends the death penalty for Charles Manson and 3 female followers.

Apparently the entire northeast of US and Canada also had a "snowstorm of the century"


Inconsistency is in my nature.
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Things that also happened in March 1971


5th - "Stairway to Heaven" by Led Zeppelin is first played live at Ulster Hall, Belfast.

10th - US Senate approves amendment lowering voting age to 18.

15th - Chatrooms make their debut on the Internet. (I'm unsure if this is legit)

16th - Muddy Waters wins his first Grammy Award, Hollywood.

18th - 200 die in landslide into Lake Yanahuani, Chungar Peru.

20th - Northern Ireland Prime Minister James Chichester-Clark resigns in protest at what he views as a limited security response by the British government.

24th - The Strasbourg Agreement Concerning the International Patent Classification is signed, establishing a common classification for patents for invention, inventors’ certificates, utility models and utility certificates, known as the “International Patent Classification”

25th - Tom Jones' "She's a Lady" goes gold.

26th - Bangladesh (East Pakistan) declares its independence.

29th - Development of a serum hepatitis vaccine for children announced.

29th - A Los Angeles, California jury recommends the death penalty for Charles Manson and 3 female followers.

Apparently the entire northeast of US and Canada also had a "snowstorm of the century"





All those events seem mundane in comparison...

Those events are all exactly what you would expect to happen in March 1971...

Obviously I wouldn't be interested in exploring the absolute edge of human experiance if events such as those held even the slightest bit of interest for me...

So when it comes to review of events of March 1971, I'd prefer the mckenna brothers, what the mckenna brothers did holds more relevance to my human experiance than "stairway to heaven" or Tom Jones...


Terence mckenna gives the most accurate and least factual explanations for the functioning of existance and the human experiance in his ideas, it's brilliant, on the level of Joyce's Finnegan wake...

...but then again most Americans would rather watch cable television...




-eg
 
 
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