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Passing the Psychemedics hair follicle test (I did!) Options
 
SoulCrushingBass
#1 Posted : 2/22/2016 8:31:02 PM

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It can be done. This was the job of a lifetime and I needed to pass. Here is my method.

Stop using. It takes 3-4 days for the drugs in your body to get into your hair. Thc can take longer.

Trim your hair to 1.5". Mine was very short and had to grow it out during the process. Shave your beard and armpits. Trim arm hair down if you have much.

Bleach your hair. 30 minutes.

Rinse.

Make a paste on your head of baking soda and let it sit. 30 minutes. This basified mix opens the hair cuticles. Acids and conditioners close the cuticles making them smooth and healthy. We don't want that. We want damaged hair.

Rinse the baking soda.
Cover hair and scalp with propylene glycol (pg), a stripper of chemicals, found in the expensive shampoos and hair detox products, which I found online in food grade form. Scrub. Rinse.
Cover hair and scalp with methanol, which is in Heet fuel line antifreeze. Scrub. Rinse. Another stripper, particularily for opiate metabolites
Cover hair and scalp with isopropyl Alchohol. Scrub. Rinse. A stripper for thc.
Wash hair with dawn dishsoap or tide laundry soap. Another basified opener of the cuticle.
Repeat PG, methanol, isopropyl wash.
Dye hair back to natural color.

I did this cycle 6 times. The last was the day of the test. After the dye job, I put folliclean headshop shampoo in my hair and let it sit for 30 minutes. My hair was beginning to break if I ran a comb through it. But I passed. And now have the career I have been working hard for.
Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 

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#2 Posted : 2/22/2016 8:47:43 PM

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I was very curious when I read the title of this thread. After reading I am not as much interested. Laughing

I did not really think it was possible, save for shaving your whole body or using a lot of Nair. But after reading this I can say I am honestly not surprised that worked. It sounds like you really did a number to your hair and scalp. Nothing permanent but still some pretty serious cleaning.

I think most employers would notice something is up after coming in with different hair but who knows. Regardless thanks for sharing this method and congratulations on the new career! Clearly well worth it! Pleased

I actually failed both of my drug tests for my current job but was open with them about it. Because of this they really did not care and let me work anyways. I was very surprised as I do not live in legal state for cannabis. Thumbs up
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#3 Posted : 2/22/2016 8:54:10 PM

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Reading this made my hair hurt LMAO
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#4 Posted : 2/22/2016 9:12:31 PM

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It does make your scalp hurt. I have sensitive skin but I've had more pain from niacin. I do live in a cannbis state with a medical card. The redying of hair I found my natural color.
A note I forgot is that the dye helps by displacing more from the inner hair shaft, plus the ammonia in it helps strip chemicals too. My hair was starting to break if I combed it. But I have my dream career with excellent pay and benefits for a company that actually cares about the people they employ.
Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 
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#5 Posted : 2/22/2016 10:12:20 PM

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one one level im glad you got your job.

on another level,
i strongly feel we should boycott any company that tests.

i flatly refuse to share my services with any group not stoner friendly.
its been documented that the smarter people are prone to drug use.
we should feel obligated to deny oppressive corporations of our talents.

its simple , starve them out.
they do it to us,
allow us the favor in return.

you want annie, be prepared for the cloud of cannabis.
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#6 Posted : 2/22/2016 10:17:14 PM

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anne halonium wrote:
one one level im glad you got your job.

on another level,
i strongly feel we should boycott any company that tests.

i flatly refuse to share my services with any group not stoner friendly.
its been documented that the smarter people are prone to drug use.
we should feel obligated to deny oppressive corporations of our talents.


Well, as long as insurance companies exist, it is inevitable. Just got to play the system and exploit the weaknesses of every method they invent.
Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 
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#7 Posted : 2/22/2016 10:22:20 PM

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Does the carpet match the drapes?
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SoulCrushingBass
#8 Posted : 2/22/2016 10:24:07 PM

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null24 wrote:
Does the carpet match the drapes?


Lol it did.

There's no drapes or carpet now. 😉
Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 
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#9 Posted : 2/23/2016 1:15:59 AM

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SoulCrushingBass wrote:
null24 wrote:
Does the carpet match the drapes?


Lol it did.

There's no drapes or carpet now. 😉



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#10 Posted : 2/23/2016 1:32:34 AM

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For my hair test I didn't go through all the harshness, I just quit everything for 2 weeks, which gave thc more than enough time to get into my hair, shaved everything from head to toe, except eyebrows. Let it all grow back, with the help of keratin supplements to help speed the growing some and voila, it worked. Granted I had some time before the test to let my hair grow out which I lucked out on.

Glad you got the job though, sucks you had to go through all that.


Peace
 
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#11 Posted : 2/24/2016 5:21:23 PM

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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
For my hair test I didn't go through all the harshness, I just quit everything for 2 weeks, which gave thc more than enough time to get into my hair, shaved everything from head to toe, except eyebrows. Let it all grow back, with the help of keratin supplements to help speed the growing some and voila, it worked. Granted I had some time before the test to let my hair grow out which I lucked out on.

Glad you got the job though, sucks you had to go through all that.


Peace


It was well worth it. I think it's important to get the good stories out there and let people know there is hope. Even occasional smoker's are losing their children or being locked behind bars because hair testing, which walks a fine line between being discriminatory towards men who aren't supposed to bleach or dye their hair, and any ethnic background as darker and courser hair holds onto the drugs much better. It's not really about workplace safety, it's not about making a better community, it's about money
Well, y'know, it's like this experience that I had was like, y'know, erm, it was kind of the most profound experience I've had in me life, like
 
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#12 Posted : 2/24/2016 5:31:52 PM

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^ and its also about crushing bad business,
thru denial of talent!Thumbs up
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kids dont try anything annie does at home ,
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#13 Posted : 2/24/2016 5:49:48 PM

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I'm fully with Anne on this. I guess I can somewhat understand the op who really wanted that specific job, but corporations can only get away with things we allow them, from drug tests through oppressive anti-competes to off-job GPS tracking. It's up to us to not let the world become something out of a dystopian sci-fi movie.

Corporate drug testing is a major invasion into ones' privacy, and an affront to human dignity. Even if I look at it from a prohibitionist's viewpoint, while in the case of pilots and soldiers I can see some rationality in such tests, in all other cases this is something companies have zero right or reason to do.

It infantilizes and subjugates workers.

Undergoing a voluntary drug test for employment is not just an affront to the psychonaut community, but to all the 150 years of organized labor.

There should be some kind of knowledge workers' union that prohibits signing batshit crazy non-competes, undergoing drug tests, and agreeing to other invasions of privacy in the name of "lost profits". I mean, we're so bloody important and rare, we DO have the power to force companies to comply with US, and not the other way around. (And of course we shouldn't keep such rights to ourselves, but share it with the whole working class.)
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#14 Posted : 2/24/2016 7:05:25 PM

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ill admit this is a touchy one and not one size fits all.

in an ideal world, everyone refuses to do biz with oppressive companies.
however its not always possible for all people.

in my case , i have a resume that reads like im a former "bond girl"
and i can pick and choose in spite of my faults.
its almost like i get hired for being a stoned slut genius with sharp teeth.
of course, im not applying at mcdonalds or wal mart, they dont need my skills.
fortunately , lots of companies have a dark side, wich makes me valuable.
( you dont apply at HR, or thru email,
you buttonhole the company owner, and TELL them , how to solve problems)
^ dont be shocked, lots of company bosses get high, THEY dont have to piss test.
ironically ,its possible to become a leading asset, based on the fact they can trust you with their party secrets!

also, im willing to do reasonably dangerous dysocial and antisocial type jobs with sociopathic flare. .........
i even play the sex card, no extra charge.
companies that NEED my skills, dont ask questions........
hell half the time they dont want to even admit i work for them.
( i dont give a lab rats ass, if you gotz cash)

any company that wants you, can always hire you thru a shell as a contractor,
ive been working with think tanks for years as a ghost girl.

you can also get waivers........ive had more than her majestys motorcade over the yrs.

even govts will look the other way on a dark side if ya have skills they want bad enough!

i also have the option of being self employed...........


^that said, if i was married, had a kid , and my husband was a slacker,
id pry be more inclined to piss for profit, and the chance at food stamps.

keep in mind, ive discovered the higher the pay, the less likely chance of a piss test.
im not talking jobs under 100k a yr though.......only above that.

ive emphasized piss test here,
hair test is out of the question.
people have been hospitalized for grabbing my hair.

i never intend to piss test ever...........
annie sells skills, never freedom.

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#15 Posted : 2/24/2016 8:12:49 PM

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While I understand everyone's stance on the whole "denial of talent" mentality, which I do agree with so don't get me wrong on this but...I'll use myself as an example without offering up to much info.

1. The problem is you can't get everyone on the same page in order to get companies to comply, there's always someone there willing to take your place, especially in a world where people are scraping for money because we are so tied to it.

2. This applied in my case, I had an opportunity for a job that a). Doesn't hire very often. b).is not hard work that pays very well (which allows me to afford to dabble in all this). It was an opportunity in my region I couldn't let pass just because there are so many low paying jobs that I prefer not to do.

3. If I was paying someone the kind of money I am getting paid, then yes I would want someone who wasn't a liability in that manor (stoned out of their minds 24/7), while my job is easy, I could also be killed very easily as its not a cushy desk type job, many have been killed in this line of work while being sober, I could only imagine the numbers if we were allowed to use.

4. I'm not so tied to these substances that I can't give it a rest for a few months in order to obtain a job that I like doing, that supports my family which is far more important than any of these drugs period. That would be nothing short of an addiction if I couldn't give them up.

This is just a few points, I can go on and on. While I agree our privacy shouldn't be infringed upon by companies, there are I believe circumstances that require testing for substance abuse in certain fields only because of the dangers involved not only to the workers but to everyone else around them as well.
Besides I only had to do this once for the initial hiring, im not subjected to random testing, unless of course I get hurt on the job then I would have to submit a urine test, and so what, if they want to play in my pee so be it.

I would love to live in a utopia where no one had to work being at the mercy of companies or a slave to money, sit around and party all the time with family and friends and not worry about what I do or use, but that's not the world we live in, that is mere fantasy.

If you are in a situation where you don't have to do these type of things then good for you and more power to ya, but majority of us have been and will be subjected to this and it's my opinion that in some cases should be mandatory.


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#16 Posted : 2/24/2016 10:15:46 PM
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That's a brutal routine OP, I commend your ingenuity and determination. Congrats on getting the job.
 
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#17 Posted : 2/24/2016 10:31:26 PM

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Spaced Out 2 wrote:

If I was paying someone the kind of money I am getting paid, then yes I would want someone who wasn't a liability in that manor (stoned out of their minds 24/7), while my job is easy, I could also be killed very easily as its not a cushy desk type job, many have been killed in this line of work while being sober, I could only imagine the numbers if we were allowed to use.

Besides I only had to do this once for the initial hiring, im not subjected to random testing, unless of course I get hurt on the job then I would have to submit a urine test, and so what, if they want to play in my pee so be it.

If you are in a situation where you don't have to do these type of things then good for you and more power to ya, but majority of us have been and will be subjected to this and it's my opinion that in some cases should be mandatory.


These appear to me to be contradictory statements. You are pro testing for dangerous jobs in order to get hired but once you get your foot in the door is it ok because there are no random tests? If this is the case it makes no sense to me.

I would be ok for drug tests for dangerous jobs if they were more accurate ie being able to tell whether someone was actually wasted on the job, rather than testing positive for having smoked a joint the day before.
 
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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
I could also be killed very easily as its not a cushy desk type job, many have been killed in this line of work while being sober, I could only imagine the numbers if we were allowed to use.


in my case, i replaced a girl that had been shot.
the girl before her quit cuz she was shot at.
part of the reason i got hired, is cuz i contracted,
and, have experience being shot at.
you need a girl that can dodge bullets? i do that.
for a price.....
and,
i always work stoned. keeps me calm, its dangerous.
not dead yet.
everyone i ever saw get killed or injured at work it was " operator error",
it wasnt drug error , they all had access to excellent drugs.

id suggest the best jobs, always have the best drugs.

its no big secret theres a whole class of professionals,
that dont smoke pot ever, but binge like maniacs on psyches, amps, and coca.
i guess you can afford to, and its test encouragedThumbs up


dont get me wrong guys, im not trying to be the bad girl here.
i understand large number of you were impoverished by the new economy,
and many of you have obligations.
i was affluent, then i went broke for almost 5 yrs,
im affluent again,
but ,i certainly understand selling my ass cheaply sans dignity during that time!
its unfortunate we face(d) these kinda choices.

my thing is simple, at what point does anyone draw the line?.
there is no right answer IMO.
i just really want people to ask themselves about it.

im glad the OP got the job.
when you can beat them join them, then beat them beating you down.
annie is never against a good infiltrator for the cause.

but we cant ever really allow body testing for drugs to ever be remotely acceptable.


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#19 Posted : 2/24/2016 11:07:54 PM

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I am ok with someone doings drugs if they are being shot at. But a bus driver or train driver or something like that where you are responsible for other peoples welfare and safety.... i am not ok with it.
 
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Quote:
I am ok with someone doings drugs if they are being shot at. But a bus driver or train driver or something like that where you are responsible for other peoples welfare and safety.... i am not ok with it.


I am ok with someone doing drugs if they are sober at work. (Doesn't apply if you're being shot at obviously, Annie!)
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