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dharmahuasca
#1 Posted : 2/2/2016 12:27:14 AM
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I know there were some other discussions about this. Yet, there are new and emerging developments. I will post a link to a article that just came out in reset.me that is very good. It further shows that Ayahuasca Healings is not legal and not a church.

The article didn't cover that Trinity was using the Ayahuasca Healings site to market pre made Ayahuasca from soul-herbs until about a month ago. They changed that part of their site now though a cached version is still available as is a youtube video.

Reports are that he was refused entry into the US because he was seen as engaging in illegal business activity. He apparently wasn't at the retreats he has been doing so much PR and marketing about.

Here is the link to the article:


http://reset.me/story/fi...-legal-ayahuasca-church/
 

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#2 Posted : 2/2/2016 12:30:06 AM

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A lengthy discussion is going on here about it.

I was mentioned in that reset article! Hopefully next time it'll be around something more positive.
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dharmahuasca
#3 Posted : 2/2/2016 1:14:49 AM
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Null, did you post a link? It doesn't seem to be working.
If you feel comfortable revealing it who are you in the article?
 
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#4 Posted : 2/2/2016 1:24:18 AM

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dharmahuasca wrote:
Null, did you post a link? It doesn't seem to be working.
If you feel comfortable revealing it who are you in the article?


Not sure why I can't post the link. But I keep getting invalid response as well. Do a Google search I believe it's in the welcome discussion area and search DMT nexus, opinions on ayahuasca healings anyone.

It's pretty apparent on the other, if one reads the posts on the other thread. Lol.
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#5 Posted : 2/2/2016 10:54:05 AM

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Working link

(I clicked on the link in the OP and it didn't work, so I'm posting this as a test.)

With the Nexus link, this happens:

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travsha
#6 Posted : 2/2/2016 4:32:46 PM

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A couple quotes from another website by Ayahuasca Healings Employees who left:

Lots of people could benefit from Ayahuasca in this country, but it has to be done in a way which is responsible and honest. I am a former member of Ayahuasca Healings. I was involved with the core team directly for about 2 months while they began recruiting their first retreat participants. I and other colleagues left because we felt that this organization is entirely without integrity. It functions completely top-down with Trinity de Guzman making all of the decisions. The operational structure is reminiscent of a multi-level marketing scheme. They are claiming to be legal while they are not. They claim they are a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization while they are not. Trinity De Guzman himself confirmed that he was turned away at the border and not allowed entry into the United States. Rumors abound from within the organization that this is linked to his involvement with the business of Ayahuasca Healings.

I have spoken with several participants from the first retreat which ended a week ago today. Some left early due to uncomfortable conditions and weak medicine. They gave the "minimum donation" of $1500 only to leave the experience upset. This "church" has taken in tens of thousands of dollars in donations and no one knows where that money is going or what it is being used for. The volunteers on the land sleep in tents and the participants in cold, wet, muddy tipis (in freezing cold mountain weather in January no less), while Trinity posts on facebook looking for a personal chef, masseuse, and house cleaner. If I didn't know personally that this is what's going on I'd almost have to believe it was a joke.


and

also ex-Ayahuasca Healings employee here. Just to clarify on what Mike posted: The "suggested donation" was a range of $1,497 to $1,897 and we were trained to "bait" people into paying this by asking not, "how much can you donate?" but "are you able to meet the suggested donation?" since psychologically this was considered to be more effective and we were explicitly told that anyone who could not donate at least $1,000 could not be accepted
and would have to be "funneled" to the "scholarship application" which is actually not a scholarship at all but simply the organization's term for a $500 minimum donation.

As members of the "phone team" we actually, initially, accepted a lot of people who were not able to donate much at all, and yet were quickly corrected by the organization and told that this was not acceptable, and that any donation under $1,000 could not be honored


(thank you Dharmahuasca for posting those quotes elsewhere - I thought they could also be shared here)

Really nasty people trying to take advantage of others and prostitute the medicine. I hope people see through the charade.
 
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#7 Posted : 2/3/2016 1:53:06 AM

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I hope people see through the charade.

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#8 Posted : 2/3/2016 2:25:08 AM

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This is starting to look like something from a south park episode.
 
travsha
#9 Posted : 3/11/2016 5:58:02 PM

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Ayahuasca Healings have suspended their cermonies.
They are beginning a process of seeking a DEA exemption.

https://ayahuascahealings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Ayahuasca-Healings-Public-Statement-March-8th.pdf


They followed with this public announcement saying that they will not refund peoples money, so basically they scammed and robbed everyone who signed up so far:

Public Announcement: Followup Message – Mar 10, 2016

Blessings to all!

We understand that there are several of you who have booked retreats with us, and are upset about the re-scheduling of your retreats, without the opportunity for a refund.

This is where we need to kindly, humbly, and deeply, ask you for your support and help, during the time we need it most.

This is a group, family, community endeavor and movement. Without any of you, none of this would be possible.

People all over America, who need this healing, who are lost, feeling trapped by society, not knowing what to do, or where to go with their lives…

Thousands, millions, of people are in pain. Looking for answers. Looking for help. Looking for peace and happiness.

This is why we are so guided to bring this medicine to America. We see how badly it is needed.

And we know, this is what many of you are struggling with, which is why you were called to the medicine in the first place.

And this is what we are here to help you with.

With these beautiful, unexpected, turn of events, it seems clear, that this is order:

First, without plant medicine. To build the foundation.

Then, when the time is right, adding plant medicine to take your healing journey to levels and dimensions so much more powerful than words can describe.

Look at this like a gift.

Instead of jumping into a world of spiritual-revelations, that people might see for a night, and then quickly forget…

You have the opportunity to create a foundation. To prepare yourself. For the most transformational journey that is destined for you.

Don’t rush the process. You will have your ceremony, when you are meant to.

This is a gift.

This time between now and when you experience the medicine, is a blessing in disguise.

Allow yourself to start to see it that way, and miracles will present themselves to you.

To emphasize, we are NOT cancelling the retreats. Only rescheduling them to a later date.

We ask for your surrender to this process.

Look at this as a training ground, to practice trust & surrender. A gift in itself.

We WILL lead you through the most transformational healing journey of your entire life.

If you allow us to.

If you can surrender to this all, and see that everything is truly happening to serve you, us, and this movement, in the highest.

The bottom line is this:

We are here to bring so much love, light, healing, truth, and opening of hearts, to so many people, across the globe.

But the only way we can do that, is TOGETHER.

And the time it’s most important to stick together, is when it’s hardest. Like right now.

You are a part of this because you are meant to be.

There are no accidents.

What is happening to you, is no mistake.

Everything that is meant to happen, will happen.

And what is happening now, was meant to happen.

For the benefit, the healing, and the awakening of so many countless beings.

It’s all unfolding exactly the way it’s meant to.

When you surrender to this experience, without reacting in anger, you can begin to see…

Everything is happening the way it is meant to. Even though we might not understand exactly why.

Please. We need your support.

The only way this will work, is together.

In order for this movement of healing to live on, your prayers, your allowing and acceptance of “what is”, and your trust, is the golden key to this all.

And remember, everything is energy.

Energy always balances itself out.

What you give, will always be returned to you. Many times over. It’s a simple law of the Universe.

We will do everything we possibly can, to return to you, the value that you are providing to this movement. And so much more.

But really leave that to the Universe. Great Spirit. The Higher Power that brought us together in the first place.

The energy you donate to this cause, to this movement, to the healing and awakening of so many people… will return to you, in more beautiful ways than you could ever dream up.

If you trust.

If you surrender.

And if you remember, that there are no accidents.

You are an integral part, to this million piece puzzle, of the awakening of us all.

It might not be a smooth ride…

But nobody ever said it would be. Pleased

It’s what we came here for. We’re just playing our roles.

And we are doing everything we can, and then some, to make sure you are supported in every way you can be.

Because at the end of the day, do you want Ayahuasca?

Or do you want the peace, liberation, freedom, love, and long-term way of living, in alignment with your true purpose & service to the world?

We know it’s the latter. So look at the money you have donated, as a massive investment towards YOURSELF.

We will support you in ways that you have never been supported before. And this money you have donated, will be one of the greatest gifts, you could have ever given yourself.

We are offering, and delivering, a coaching program, or more so, a Global Healing Community, that will be worth the money you have donated, and so much more.

Stay tuned, to realize how much this will really serve you.

We apologize deeply for any inconvenience this has brought you.

The only way through this, is trust. And expect to see the beauty that is waiting to reveal itself, on the other side.

The only way this will succeed, the only way we can bring this life-changing healing plant sacrament, Mother Ayahuasca, to America, and all those who need it, is through your continued support.

This is how to help:

We ask for your belief.

We ask for your trust.

We ask for your sweet surrender, knowing that the money you have donated, is supporting so many people’s healing journey. Most of all, your own.

We will be in communication with all of you who are scheduled for upcoming retreats, via phone.

To ensure everything is as clear as possible, to build the personal connection, and to make sure that you are truly happy with your interactions with our Church.

Thank you so much for your support during this time that we need it most.

We understand that this is hard for you, as it is difficult for us as well, but please, we need to stick together.

Keep our eyes on the big vision. And remember, we came here to build this, together.

Thank you again, and we look forward to communicating with you personally, in more detail.

With the deepest gratitude, surrendering in love to every moment,
Trinity de Guzman & The Ayahuasca Healings Family

PS – We want to be clear. The reason we are not able to issue refunds, is two-fold:

1) We have re-invested all of the donations we have received into the Church, and Spiritual Healing Center, in Elbe.

As well, the operating expenses of leading a movement like this, with how many people are involved, and how many lives are being changed, has left us in a position, where we do not have money saved to pay back refunds.

When you ask for a refund, it puts a financial strain on us, that may add up to this whole thing falling apart. To be completely honest.

I don’t believe that will happen. But it’s to put it in perspective.

It’s not like we simply do not want to issue refunds. If we had the means to, of course, we would love to, for those who are really adamant about it.

But honestly, we do not have the resources to do so. And if we want this to succeed, we can not put that type of stress on the organization right now.

The second reason is…

2) As expressed on our Ayahuasca Healing Retreat info page, and in our Terms & Conditions:

- You are not paying a price for a retreat. You are not paying for a product or service. It is not an exchange of money, where you give us ____$, and then we give you a retreat.

- The money you send us is a donation, and is therefor non-refundable.

- The donation is to support our Church’s Vision & Mission, to share healing & awakening with the world.

- The retreat is shared with you, as a thank you, and as a healing service we offer. This operates as a fundraising activity of our Church.

Based on these points, we are unable to issue refunds, and we, again, apologize so deeply, for this unexpected turn of events.

Again, we simply ask you to look at this like a gift, because there is no doubt it is.

And this is happening, to serve us all.

Thank you again so much, for your continued support, love, acceptance, allowing, and total embrace, of life as it is.

This journey together is powerful!

It will teach you so much about yourself, if you let it.

Because after all… that’s the essence of this journey, and what it really means to heal.

We pray you are receiving the lessons, just as we are!
 
travsha
#10 Posted : 3/11/2016 5:59:12 PM

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Poor Ayahuasca having her name tarnished by association to these crooks. These are the type of people who give the medicine community a bad name.
 
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#11 Posted : 3/11/2016 7:23:55 PM

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travsha wrote:


2) As expressed on our Ayahuasca Healing Retreat info page, and in our Terms & Conditions:

- You are not paying a price for a retreat. You are not paying for a product or service. It is not an exchange of money, where you give us ____$, and then we give you a retreat.

- The money you send us is a donation, and is therefor non-refundable.

- The donation is to support our Church’s Vision & Mission, to share healing & awakening with the world.


Problem is, the "donations" were garnered through misrepresentation and deceit. If anyone sues to get their money back, the "church" will lose.
 
travsha
#12 Posted : 3/11/2016 8:14:32 PM

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Oh ya, Trinity has nothing to stand on - his only hope is tricking people into not trying to get their money back. People that paid him seem pretty gullible so maybe he will get away with it, but maybe a few people will hold him accountable like he deserves.
 
 
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