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Poekus
#21 Posted : 12/4/2015 8:14:56 PM
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This one marked the begin of the commercial hardcore era. This simplistic hardcore track was blasted over whole Europe in the summer of 92 via the mainstream radio stations.



The early nineties Belgium trance sound:



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Kind of acid went mainstream in 1989 with Grey House.

 

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#22 Posted : 12/5/2015 12:18:28 AM

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#23 Posted : 12/5/2015 2:42:13 AM
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firstly..cyb ! ..yes ! many paths lead back to breakdance…i was still reeling from the profoundness of benzyme's gem, and now your invoking Rock Steady Crew leaves me completely ecstatic Smile ..back in the day i really enjoyed ‘Uprock’ too..
you know the tek
let’s break..

..Kurtis from Mantronix's 1999 remix of 80s breaker T-La Rock’s ‘Bassmachine’

also the influence of Breakdance is seen with acts like Massive Attack,
who sampled early 80s group Mantronix a few times (such as 'Get Stupid Part III')



yeah, in full effect
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..Man From Chan Chan…that is deep in Detroit thanks…love live Underground Resistance

thank you hug46 for raving on with us…peace


InLaKesh…very much in the goa zone, chillums and all Smile (woogyboogy too) thank you..
Total Eclipse were a good band..

..i’ve chatted a couple of times with Old-school Goa dj Ray Castle about the origins of elements of the sound..in the 80s creative djs would blend together elements from different genres (paralleling how the old-school Detroit UR djs would play 3 records at once to create the ‘track’ you were hearing, but done more with tape editing style techniques)
thus, a very influential artist was Sylvester (who had good disco tracks in the 70s)
if you take some, say, Belgian Front242 (industrial)
and blend it with the instrumental break section from Sylvester’s ‘Rock The Box’ (1:21 in track), and some boggling vocal sample, you start to get it..




..if i dig into my memories of the 80s (i was at school) i recall a very influential track on Electronic Dance Music generally, from the experimental Australian group Severed Heads (who at the time were compared a bit to the UK Cabaret Voltaire)
from 1981 originally, released europe 84, remixed several times ‘Dead Eyes Opened’


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..Poekus…i remember Rotterdam…thank you..that was quite a flashback..

and downwardsfromzero…. Pleased Smile
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..the last track by early-goa influencing act Insectoid anticipated the revival of electro that some from that world would get into later.. Insectoid were Australian ‘forest trance’, Ray Castle, Nick Spacetree and Mark Turner, this was slightly more 'ambient' than usual - Insectoid - ‘Insectiscide’ (1997)

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alright…also i meant to dig out some real House,
some deep House..

for now, a very pioneering track of true Chicago Deep House, made by a 16 year-old with a fourtrack in 1986, re-released and remixed in the early and later 90s.. (it's got the true 'shuffle', midi timing lags and all..)

Ron Trent - 'Altered States'


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i've really enjoyed everyone’s tracks…this is great, back-to-back at the nexus !
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#24 Posted : 12/5/2015 2:49:09 AM

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nen888 wrote:
^..ah memories Smile

thanks Nathanial.Dread


Yup, the memories Smile I was at the party on the flyer below ... cool thread, nen.

I personally gravitated more towards the Northern varieties of psytrance, German and Scandinavian. Some of the German artists that veered towards the darker and techno-ier side were my favorites for a while.

X-Dream's Radio was a very influential album



X-Dream's Marcus Maichel created The Delta (and took things to another level of darkness)



with the duo from Spirallianz/Midimiliz



These two guys, Arne and Wayan, switched to a more commercially palatable style sometime in the mid-'00s and have been very successful as Extrawelt



Atmos was influential in launching the Scandinavian progressive psytrance wave, which went strong for a while.





Not all of the above were seminal style-influencers, but were definitely influential in my journey Smile
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#25 Posted : 12/5/2015 2:56:23 AM
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^ am lovin' it zhoro Smile thank you for the memories...Thumbs up
 
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#26 Posted : 12/5/2015 5:59:05 AM

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#27 Posted : 12/5/2015 9:07:10 AM
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^...absolutely spot on benz...computer world
 
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#28 Posted : 12/5/2015 9:51:17 AM

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1988, darn 27 years back Shocked

Got to be from a certain country to have this one fed up to your core system.
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#29 Posted : 12/5/2015 9:56:16 AM
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^..now that jees is something i missed, lol ..a fascinating historical cultural hybrid.. Smile



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Infiniti..1995>




^..which is what former Cybotron member Juan Atkins was doing in detroit
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#30 Posted : 12/5/2015 9:58:09 AM
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This guy contributed big time without even realizing it himself initially:



He was responsible for the development of those boxes that gave and still gives House it's signature sound.

Software and hardware companies replicate those machines a lot nowadays.
 
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#31 Posted : 12/5/2015 10:36:37 AM
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excellent point indeed Poekus...thank you...303+808=forever
 
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#32 Posted : 12/5/2015 10:37:15 AM

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Ground breakers before Techno and New-Beat:
Front 242, team formed in 1980.

1984 Confused Seeing it all born this stuff wades in my genes somehow Big grin
 
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#33 Posted : 12/5/2015 10:52:38 AM
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thanks Jess..yes Front242 very influential..and i found things more refreshing when genre lines weren't so drawn, as back then..


and anon_003 and benzyme, definitely Kraftwerk are quite a factor really, and one of my all time favourites
...i imagine they were influenced by mathematical analysis of african drumming patterns..
that video clip for The Robots is still quite a statement Very happy
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i don't think this influence factor would be complete without Manchester >
New Order - 'Everything's Gone Green' Live 1981
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#34 Posted : 12/5/2015 11:14:28 AM

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Another real influencer Smile



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From the deep hole i'm from, this is the mainstream stuff that open the door to electronic music univers




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#36 Posted : 12/5/2015 4:15:50 PM

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nen888 wrote:
...computer world



pre-computer world.

CW was released 1981, I have that record.. Autobahn was released 1974, and disco clubs reportedly went nuts, because it was unlike anything they ever heard. Robots was released in 1978, after Trans Europe Express.

They (Kraftwerk) have credited Karlheinz Stockhausen as their primary influence. Stockhausen did a lot of electronic experimentation in the 50's and 60's, like Richard D James (aphex twin) did in the 80s.
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#37 Posted : 12/5/2015 10:13:19 PM
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thanks zhoro..yes very futuristic for the time..

and yeah benzyme, thanks for keeping an historical perspective..interesting their being embraced by disco..
i more meant Kraftwerk’s ’Computer World’ album (while a bit later) is like a blueprint of modern electro ..and here we are!

Kraftwerk are such a seminal influence on all of this..
there’s an interesting interview with Karlos Bartos from Kraftwerk [http://thequietus.com/articles/01282-karl-bartos-interviewed-kraftwerk-and-the-birth-of-the-modern] where he cites their main influences as, yes Stockhausen and 30s-50s Musique Concrete (particularly Pierre Schaeffer) and also The Beatles “,..The Beach Boys, yeah. And Andy Warhol. From the end of the 60s, Velvet Underground was taking off and all the bands from the West Coast, The Doors for example. That was a really good time for art and music, the 60s."
Also, the rhythm of train wheels on tracks is given as inspiration.

Of the electro/breakdance developments he says:
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"In 1975 we went over the Atlantic and spent 10 weeks on the road. We went from coast to coast and then to Canada. And all the black cities like Detroit or Chicago, they embraced us. It was good fun. In a way apparently they saw some sort of very strange comic figures in us I guess but also they didn't miss the beats. I was growing up with the funky beats of James Brown and I brought them in more and more. Not during Autobahn or Radioactivity but more and more during the late 70s. We took some black beats into our music and this was very attractive to the black musicians and the black audiences in the States. In a way probably it reminds me of what The Beatles did. They took some Chuck Berry tunes and they transferred it to our European culture before taking it back to America and everyone understood that. In a way that was probably what we did with black rhythm and blues. But we mixed it of course with our own identity of the electronic music approach and European melodies."

good ol' Chuck Berry Smile
in another interview he says
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"The most rich experience we can have on this planet is the music culture of these different eras, of these different ethnological eras. Chuck Berry invented it. And then it goes to Liverpool and then Germany. We bounced it back, giving it a little electronic ingredient. It came back to Liverpool and London and then back to Berlin. I am really interested in the different ways music culture is evolving, not developing."

Q: 'You are renowned for your rhythms, the 'Numbers' pattern which Bambaataa emulated for 'Planet Rock' for example. But there's a strong sense of melody here, often sitting alongside more beat-heavy tracks, 'The Tuning Of The World', for instance. Do you feel overlooked as a melody maker?'

KB: "Well, I have got the copyright for it. I am not overlooked. You cannot protect your copyright for a beat, it's impossible. I just wanted to make it clear writing it down. One single day in the beginning of the 80s, I drummed this beat. I never did this before, I never claimed this was my invention. But maybe I wanted to write it because I needed to, um, reconceive it? For me it needed to be reconceived."


the evolution and cross-fertilisation of music is interesting..

and reliving older music is like a form of time-travel…
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Rhythm Nation !

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#38 Posted : 12/5/2015 10:59:27 PM
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DansMaTete...good ol' Yello...you weren't so deprived Smile ..thankyou!
 
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#39 Posted : 12/5/2015 11:02:20 PM

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The first record i bought was My ding a ling by chuck berry.

Delia Derbyshire and Daphne Oram of the BBC radiophonic workshop were pretty influential.



 
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#40 Posted : 12/5/2015 11:09:08 PM
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^ brilliant hug46! yes, the Doctor Who original 1963 theme was a big influence on me too...and the opening graphics..Delia Derbyshire was such a pioneer...the Ron Grainer rhythm/melody was inspired by The Shadows...
 
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