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nitro solvent for varnish as solvent for harmala fb ?? Options
 
xa
#1 Posted : 9/18/2015 5:43:13 PM

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Hi,
I have a can of a nitro solvent for varnish, it contains:

tetracloroethane
dichloromethane
tetrahydrofuran
toulene
heptane
methanol

If evaporate clean on a glass (i'm going to wait the test), can be useful for dissolve harmala fb/spice fb for changa ? i would like to try, i know about ethanol etc etc, but if this can dissolve better i'm more happy... :-)

I know it's unusable for and extraction, but maybe for dissolve harmals from rue, i don't search yet for methanol but is something that i don't want to use, this is a standar solvent for mix varnish cost nothing and i use a lot in my job, not so harmful to inhale, at low dosage.

Or if someone have another idea for use it...
Bye :-)

EDIT: the test, few drops, evaporate very fast, no visible residue, has a smell but i'm waiting more time, for now it's 10 mins....
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#2 Posted : 9/18/2015 7:55:57 PM

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Does not sound good.

You can use ethanol instead, much safer as it is sourced from grain.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/19/2015 1:40:44 AM

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xa wrote:
tetracloroethane
dichloromethane
tetrahydrofuran
toulene
heptane
methanol

Weird that it is called "nitro", while there are not nitroalkanes in it.

Don't use this, is my advice. Evaporating serious amounts of this stuff creates a bad stink that is also quite toxic. It will take a long time before the smell of some of the ingredients no longer lingers in your changa.

Stay with food grade 95% ethanol (possibly from a pharmacy) for dissolving harmalas. Don't use denatured ethanol, because you'll concentrate some of the denaturing agents into your changa and ruin it. You may need to warm the ethanol a bit in a warm water bath (never directly on a flame!) for the harmalas to dissolve. With some heat, stirring and patience the harmala freebase will dissolve just fine in ethanol.

Methanol isn't so hard to get either, but unless you have equipment to handle the vapors, it should not be used for kitchen-scale procedures. It is not really necessary at all.
 
xa
#4 Posted : 9/19/2015 8:15:16 AM

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Yes, thanks, really re thinking about it's better don't use it, it's enought what i get from normal and safe things, but was also for experiment and learn :-)
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#5 Posted : 9/19/2015 7:17:02 PM

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pitubo wrote:
Weird that it is called "nitro", while there are not nitroalkanes in it.

Not strange, just amusing. All those solvents with nitro in the name started with nitroalkanes or nitrobenzene in, they later phased out those solvents and replaced them with others (making their product less effective, generally) but they kept their old solvent name so people would recognize the name and continue to buy it.
Like when coca cola removed their cocaine.
 
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#6 Posted : 9/19/2015 7:47:05 PM

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Auxin wrote:
Like when coca cola removed their cocaine.

Lots of people are actually amazed to hear cocaine used to be an ingredient. Or will even flatly refuse to believe it when told - despite the obviousness of the name.

Maybe 100 years from now they'll be amazed that it used to contain sugar.
 
 
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