Hi Everybody,

I've been lurking around these forums for a while now - however this weekend I had an experience that's prompted me to post.. I'll give you a bit of background. Over the past few months I've been vaping DMT maybe every week / couple of weeks - basically whenever I'm feeling brave enough, I've also been taking acid maybe every 2-4 weeks.

Now I don't believe I have 'broken through' on the DMT yet - however I believe I have come very close, my last DMT trip I felt the room 'fill' with a kind of menacing negative energy - which I somehow felt like I had to warn off by repeatedly 'ommmmmm'ing, I felt like I was being told to make these noises - it was really strange and unnerved me if I'm honest.

Now here's where it gets weird, this weekend I took 500ug of acid, everything was going fine, I was enjoying the trip and just generally relaxing - then out of absolutely nowhere I felt this strange overwhelming negative energy enter the room - almost instantly. I jumped up immedietly off the couch and began only what I could describe as growling, I felt my whole body and mind fill with terror - the room changed in EXACTLY the same way that it does when I vape DMT (enhanced edges on things / slightly strange hue to the room), I almost became convinced that I'd just vaped some DMT and forgotten. This time I felt like I was being guided again, but this time it was to move my arms in some weird motion - I didn't really understand what i was doing / supposed to be doing, at one point I was convinced I was being told to pray.

Around a similar time that this was happening (just afterwards I think) time as i knew it stopped - I saw time literally unravelling before my eyes - the tv stopped, my wife stopped, everything stopped - it felt like when I moved my head in different positions I was able to control the flow of time.. I could see that time had like a horizon. I know this sounds crazy - after this initial period of time stopping, I then got stuck in multiple 'time loops' - basically the same conversation / TV show was repeating on me, I felt like I had the same conversation with my wife about 4 times - which she assures me we didn't.

I'm pretty freaked out about this whole thing to be honest - I'll probably be taking a break from psychedelics for a while, Has anybody else had anything similar to this happen? My initially thoughts when this was occurring is that the 'energy' that I sensed on my DMT trip had somehow stayed with me..

Thanks for reading! any opinions / comments welcome.

Richard

Welcome to ne nexus Richard.

Was this your first LSD trip with 500ug? I experience this dosage as pretty intense.

Yes, the experiences you describe sound familiar to me, no need to worry at all. Once I the idea crossed my mind that I maybe get stuck in between and do not find my way back, I asked myself if others would think of me as someone with a katatone shizophrenia then.

Positive/negative.. it all appreas relative to me in first line. Letting go of my expectaions/believes and welcoming the upcoming transformations, regardless of what they are, helps me staying awake, being the light myself and integrating the constant stream of experience.

And I totally agree with the idea, that every single information which goes (un-)consciously through my system leaves a footprint in my experience and stays with me. Maybe some kind of evolutionary process, seeing myself as an open spectrum who/which is in contact to itself and only ends when this form of experience ends.

tseuq

Yeah, when your perception loops, over and over and over, the same situation happening again and again - it's an unnerving experience. Been there a few times. Not sure what causes it. It's happened on several intense DMT experiences. One I remember specifically - the entire room, music, my friend - everything kept rewinding a bit, going forward, rewinding, going forward; this creation and destruction of the moment; kept repeating, felt stuck in a limbo of sorts.

Firstly thank you very much for the replies - I feel a little more at ease after your responses.

No this wasn't my first trip with 500ug, I generally do around 200-500ug - but this was by far my most intense trip on acid, the bit that freaked me out really was how DMT-esque it felt - I felt the exact same energy that I did on my last DMT trip, which I found really odd as I have never had anything like that on acid before.. and the time thing just put the icing on the cake - that was intense! gave me a new appreciation for time though.

I may as well take this opportunity to ask another question I've had from a previous DMT trip..

About 2 weeks ago I had a pretty intense trip in which I saw what I thought were 3 entities - the more I looked and concentrated on them the closer I seemed to move towards them, as I got pretty close to them, one of the entities was holding out what I can only describe as a 'golden cube' - on the cube was lots of very intricate moving patterns, the entity slowly moved the cube into my body. As this happened - literally at the exact same moment, my 8 week old son started to scream hysterically, from my point of view in the trip I was absolutely convinced that he could see or feel what was happening. When I opened my eyes my son was the brightest thing in the room - I immediately put my hand on his head and could see a flow of energy moving around the room and swarming around his head - it looked bright and yellow.

Anybody else had anything like this? I know the obvious answer to this is that I somehow incorporated my son into the trip.. however at the time it seemed way too coincidental. It's not the first time he has seemed to respond to my trips though.

Some stories of mine that I have that are relevant:

Unraveling Negative Entities (note posts #1 and #9)

Harmonic Resonance with Hyperspace

The throat chanting I employ for defense was energetically and spontaneously taught to me in a lesson/demonstration kind of way in a "safe" setting so that I could resort to it voluntarily in the future when needed. There is a mansion that I would regularly go to in hyperspace. Sometimes it's inhabited, other times not. On one occasion I found myself in the circular vaulted living room with a handful of familiar geometrically abstract entities laying inert and lifeless on the floor. Suddenly they started to emit a string of audio code in an 8-bit sequence, and I along with the entities rose up, floating in what felt like a sea of magnetism. I don't feel threatened by these particular set of entities, as we had already built up a certain layer of trust over prior experiences. The rather large entity directly in front of me that was quite geometrically pleasant and colorful began to fold itself over and over again...getting smaller and smaller....packed tighter and tighter...until it was this knotted up brown ugly glitch looking thing. These glitches are the bane of my hyperspacial existence. As this became clear, I was energetically moved to open my mouth, and produce a tone which involuntarily got lower and lower until it became a very gutteral growl. It just kept dropping even lower and lower, becoming increasingly visceral until I was practically choking. When I stopped, everything was very lovey-dovey. It seemed like a clear demonstration to me that: "when you see things that look like this, here is what you do," but without having uttered a single word. Surely enough, it has proved to be quite effective at dealing with any negative entity.

Typically my activation of the throat chanting is voluntary, but as in the story of Harmonic Resonance (linked above), it has also come about reflexively again as well. Trust your growl. Remember how it feels to make those sounds. They afford you protection without having to hope and wish that some other entities may show up to help you out, which has happened to me on a number of occasions, but I prefer not to leave much to chance anymore. When those which I do not trust show up in hyperspace, I'm instantly getting ready to growl.