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Erbe
#1 Posted : 8/22/2015 5:09:15 PM
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Hello

So I finally took DMT for the first time and it didn't work out that well.

I took it at home on my couch, alone. I first wanted to get someone to keep an eye on me but then decided to take it alone because I may would have had problems feeling free enough during the trip. There would have been some preassure on me if someone else was there, I thought.
I cut open a plastic bottle and put some aluminium wrap under it to heat the DMT without a direct flame.
I put about 0.03g DMT in it (My scale can't measure it more precisely), might have been 0.02g or 0.04g.

So, I'll try to explain how that DMT "trip" felt to me. After I smoked it, i laid back and everything in my room started to look as if there was a comic-shader from photoshop over it. Everything was moving slightly, not much, just a bit, like calm water. The colortone seemed to have changed to a slightly more red tone.
I heard a smooth buzzing, while feeling a bit of preassure in my head.
I remember panicking a bit because I never took any psychedelics before (except low dose shrooms) and it started so quick. I knew that it was wrong to worry about it. I should just free my mind from all the thoughts but that's not easy for me. Confused
So I was sitting there on my couch, waiting for what is happening next (while feeling a bit of fear). And then the bad part started.

My body seemed to fight against it. I'll try to explain how that felt, and keep in mind that what I'll explain now has nothing to do with DMT, this EXACT feeling happened twice in my life before. (Once an hour after I ate shrooms and once when a wasp did sting me in the neck)
So it's like my ears turn down the volume and if there are sounds, they sound a bit metallic. My whole body started sweating intensively and it almost felt like I'm going to pass out. This took about a minute, after that the DMT seemed to have vanished. It felt like my body countered the DMT in order to get rid of it. Don't know about this, but that's just what I was thinking.

So that's it. I absolutely want to go on with it, but after that I have even more respect/fear. I really want to leave my body and see what DMT is capable of. Not for the sake of having a druggy trip, but rather to learn something.
Anyone else had these or similar reactions on taking DMT? Can you give me any suggestions on how to engage my continuation on experiencing DMT?

Feel free to ask me anything you want to know.
 

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#2 Posted : 8/22/2015 6:01:46 PM

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Erbe wrote:
My whole body started sweating intensively and it almost felt like I'm going to pass out. This took about a minute, after that the DMT seemed to have vanished. It felt like my body countered the DMT in order to get rid of it. Don't know about this, but that's just what I was thinking.


You're sort of right, but it's not as if your body heroically stepped in to save you. This is simply how DMT acts. It comes on extremely quickly, you have an intense experience for a few minutes, and then it leaves very quickly. This is your body expertly metabolizing it. I would suggest that when you have that feeling of about to pass out, don't panic - just sit back, and close your eyes, and let the visions take you where they will. Because (for some people more than others), DMT will tend to dissociate your awareness from your body, you may physically perceive this as passing out, or the body going numb, or you simply no longer have awareness of your body. Even when this happens, your consciousness is likely to persist unlike in fainting incidences. Just close your eyes, stay calm, and go with it. From what you're describing, it is quite counterproductive to try and fight it.
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#3 Posted : 8/22/2015 6:47:27 PM
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I wonder how long you held it in, I don't know if it helps but i personally find holding it in forcefully until the vibration become a full body sensation to be both pleasurable and useful (fills me with strength) and takes me on a trip. I'm not sure if this helps though! x
 
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#4 Posted : 8/22/2015 7:48:23 PM
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Both great advice/posts above.

Yeah, im curious as well - how long did you hold the hit/s? How many? And often times conduction vaping (a surface heating up to vaporize DMT) more times than not leads to you burning the DMT to some degree. The more the DMT is burnt - the harsher it will be in taste/feeling/etc. With vaporizing freebase DMT there should be literally no feeling when the DMT enters your lungs; essentially feeling like a warm air or something similar. Not saying you burnt it, just a friendly reminder that when you're dealing with conduction style vapes - there's always some sacrifice of DMT when using them, and if not extremely careful - much of the experience can be botched.

But yeah holding the hits in is extremely important. 10-15 seconds usually ime, exhale; but when I get the hit that I KNOW is going to propel me far and feel it coming on VERY strong - I will hold that hit in for all it's worth. Reaching this specific hit - whether it's the first hit or fourth hit - once I take that it in, hold it and know "ohh man, this is gaining momentum quickly" - i'll hold that hit as long as I possibly can. Of course though, if you get a top notch vaporizer like the Glass Vapor Genie - you can easily take a dose in one full hit, leaving none behind; so in that case you can just hold that hit in as long is as needed and exclude everything I said above. Razz

On what you said regarding the feelings you had and fighting it/etc:

For me I know what you're saying about the feeling as if the volume is turned down and things sound metallic. Often from that point, as the dosage deepens and/or as the experience gains momentum and becomes more intense - that metallic sound will regress into warbled sounds and the music/sounds break down in their structure; often drawn and and extended out into one infinite string of intersecting vibrations; and if the dosage and experience is intense/deep enough - sound/s, even music ..ALL goes out the window. Hyperspace, when it's deep enough, can completely negate any external stimulus and sounds to where eventually all you hear is Hyperspace coalescing infinitely through your entire perception and being - leaving it virtually impossible for any given stimulus to intrude on the experience.

Global summed up the sweating and 'passing out' pretty well. All i'll say is - as easy as it is to get worked up and wonder "ohh no what's going on", "I did too much, this isn't good.", "I did something wrong" or any 'fighting' type of thought; (train your mind to stay calm through ordeals, just be a passive observer, try not to impose anything onto the experience in any way; just let it flow through you and let the experience run it's course realizing that this experience IS ephemeral and it will be over shortly). Even one little inkling of a thought can precipitate into this overwhelmingly endless array of torture/intensity - both physical feeling and mental feeling. The 'pressure' feeling that you're talking about can build and build into EXTREMELY intense levels, to where you think you're going to pop out've your own skin. Sometimes once you breakthrough - this feeling gives way into utter bliss and ecstasis; other times it can remain throughout the experience (sometimes it'll keep escalating and escalating); and for some it can be extremely uncomfortable and can spin negative connotations and experiences - given your reaction - sometimes the experience going very drab, dark, or entities/forces spinning forth to operate on some part of yourself/etc and being very rough in appearance.

And yeah, as Global said - DMT is very swift in how it comes on and leaves. It can be especially short if the hits were not held in long enough, the DMT to some degree was burnt, your metabolism is extremely efficient, or sometimes the experience can leave quicker than normal (or sometimes the experience won't come on at all or to where it's barely noticeable).

Just sit back, smile, close your eyes, let it all go for those few minutes and TRUST in what is happening - no matter how it may feel or appear. The experience can give you an endless array of worrying physical sensations/feelings. Just remember and try to keep in your mind - "this is only a few minutes and will be over shortly". As has been said on this forum many times - "DMT will give you what you need, not what you want". I find this to be absolutely accurate.

Best of vibes to you and your future experiences with DMT. <3

 
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#5 Posted : 8/22/2015 8:42:43 PM
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Thank you guys for the advice so far. Smile

Infectedstyle wrote:
I wonder how long you held it in, ...

Tattvamasi wrote:
Yeah, im curious as well - how long did you hold the hit/s? How many?

I took one big hit from the bottle, all of it was vaped/burned and I was holding it in. Shortly after 5-10 seconds it already started to buzz in my head and the comic-shader started. I was shocked that it came so fast. My Body really seemed to pump that stuff directly to my head. I immediately exhaled after that shock. It was like "Oh god, I just want to try for now and it already starts so quickly. Quick exhale before it gets more intense!"

Tattvamasi wrote:
Of course though, if you get a top notch vaporizer like the Glass Vapor Genie...

I just ordered the wooden one, will have to do for now. Well, it's better than a plastic bottle, right? Smile

Tattvamasi wrote:
For me I know what you're saying about the feeling as if the volume is turned down and things sound metallic. Often from that point, as the dosage deepens and/or as the experience gains momentum and becomes more intense - that metallic sound will regress into warbled sounds and the music/sounds break down in their structure; often drawn and and extended out into one infinite string of intersecting vibrations; and if the dosage and experience is intense/deep enough - sound/s, even music ..ALL goes out the window. Hyperspace, when it's deep enough, can completely negate any external stimulus and sounds to where eventually all you hear is Hyperspace coalescing infinitely through your entire perception and being - leaving it virtually impossible for any given stimulus to intrude on the experience.

Just to be clear. The volume down, the metallic sound and the sweating was not a DMT reaction of my body. When a wasp did sting me in the neck a few weeks ago, I felt the exact same thing. The DMT just initialized this reaction. This made me feel like something was wrong.
So you are saying that I can have this body reaction and it still can turn out to be a good trip? The sweating really makes me uncomfortable Confused

Tattvamasi wrote:
All i'll say is - as easy as it is to get worked up and wonder "ohh no what's going on", "I did too much, this isn't good.", "I did something wrong" or any 'fighting' type of thought;...

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Big grin I think I'll get used to it the more I play around with low dosages of DMT. I'll try to calm myself down, but as I said, it's not that easy for me since I'm a very active person.


Thanks again guys for the fast and helpful reply. I'll continue reading on this awesome website and keep you updated on my next trips. When my VG arrives, I'll give it another shot. Should be way better than forcing a random dosage through a plastic bottle in one hit. Very happy
 
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#6 Posted : 8/23/2015 4:15:57 AM
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Erbe wrote:
Thank you guys for the advice so far. Smile

Infectedstyle wrote:
I wonder how long you held it in, ...

Tattvamasi wrote:
Yeah, im curious as well - how long did you hold the hit/s? How many?

I took one big hit from the bottle, all of it was vaped/burned and I was holding it in. Shortly after 5-10 seconds it already started to buzz in my head and the comic-shader started. I was shocked that it came so fast. My Body really seemed to pump that stuff directly to my head. I immediately exhaled after that shock. It was like "Oh god, I just want to try for now and it already starts so quickly. Quick exhale before it gets more intense!"

Mmhm, next time hold the hit in despite whatever amount of shock comes about. Smile

Tattvamasi wrote:
Of course though, if you get a top notch vaporizer like the Glass Vapor Genie...

I just ordered the wooden one, will have to do for now. Well, it's better than a plastic bottle, right? Smile

Definitely; I used to have a wooden VG before i purchased the GVG. It works really well, definitely better than a plastic bottle with foil. Smile

Tattvamasi wrote:
For me I know what you're saying about the feeling as if the volume is turned down and things sound metallic. Often from that point, as the dosage deepens and/or as the experience gains momentum and becomes more intense - that metallic sound will regress into warbled sounds and the music/sounds break down in their structure; often drawn and and extended out into one infinite string of intersecting vibrations; and if the dosage and experience is intense/deep enough - sound/s, even music ..ALL goes out the window. Hyperspace, when it's deep enough, can completely negate any external stimulus and sounds to where eventually all you hear is Hyperspace coalescing infinitely through your entire perception and being - leaving it virtually impossible for any given stimulus to intrude on the experience.

Just to be clear. The volume down, the metallic sound and the sweating was not a DMT reaction of my body. When a wasp did sting me in the neck a few weeks ago, I felt the exact same thing. The DMT just initialized this reaction. This made me feel like something was wrong.
So you are saying that I can have this body reaction and it still can turn out to be a good trip? The sweating really makes me uncomfortable Confused

Yes, just go with what is happening and know that it all will be over shortly.

Tattvamasi wrote:
All i'll say is - as easy as it is to get worked up and wonder "ohh no what's going on", "I did too much, this isn't good.", "I did something wrong" or any 'fighting' type of thought;...

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Big grin I think I'll get used to it the more I play around with low dosages of DMT. I'll try to calm myself down, but as I said, it's not that easy for me since I'm a very active person.


Thanks again guys for the fast and helpful reply. I'll continue reading on this awesome website and keep you updated on my next trips. When my VG arrives, I'll give it another shot. Should be way better than forcing a random dosage through a plastic bottle in one hit. Very happy

 
 
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