On LSD I've seen people turn into witches, gargoyles and clouds of hovering neon gas. I wasn't particularly attracted to any of them at the time... but YMMV.

Naw, I don't think so...



I think psychedelics give us a certain air of self-confidence, particularly during the after-glow--and I suppose that might be seen as attractive by others. But generally when I take a full dose of a psychedelic I get all sweaty and clammy, my eyes turn into saucers, and I stare off into space absently or get a huge toothy grin on my face that won't go away.

In my opinion, psychedelics make us look pretty goofy...even though they might make us feel great about ourselves.

Sorry about the double post, I just thought this was too funny...

Well, if psychedelics make us more attractive just by taking them, we would all look like Brad Pitt and Jessica Alba by now wouldn't we...? (or insert any other so called "attractive" person you want to put in place of those two...)

LSD levelled me up from Giovanni Ribisi in Gone in Sixty Seconds to Walter Matthau in Bad News Bears.

I am deeply grateful I am not terribly attractive at first glance.
I use to think this until I realized how shallow that thinking is, because what we mean by 'attractive' is pitifully vague and actually depends entirely on the quality and development of one's vision of what reality/existence/god/life is.
A couple of us have mentioned that intelligence should be the primary virtue - because intelligence is going to be the most significant factor involved in sustaining truly loving and healthy relationships generally of any kind.
I must say I agree.

Because - relationships that work are like bridges built with give and sway - not hard and stiff, which are liable to snap.
And to achieve this balance I think one simply has to learn how to weave the artistries of intelligence and love into one harmonious tapestry.

Anyway, I wholeheartedly believe clear intelligence is the most significant factor to abiding joy, to general satisfaction with life, and when I check against my relationship history the idea that psychedelics boost attraction I find it's actually created a much larger problem than heretofore mentioned - entheogens have been a tremendous ability in dropping one psychologically into oneself and into the world, and one feels one has achieved a quality of understanding that is itself ineffable, though the insight gleaned from it is ineffaceable.
One can never unsee, right?

Though this is fantastic and enlightening and a gift from one point of view, must it come at such great equal expense?
I don't like being typically utterly incomprehensible among friends, especially women in which I may have intense interest.

It's like the greatest objection I've ever heard to my love for someone is its realness, toomuchness, toostrongness.

Anyone else have this problem? Ever been told after two hours or so in conversation by people that their minds can no longer contain or comprehend what your telling them because of some ridiculous limit they invent for themselves?
Are there actually borders of mind, that can only expand so much within certain limits of time? I think certainly not.
I think people lie. And lie so much, there isn't a difference between who they've told themselves they are and who they really are. Like ghosts.

I heard once that love contained without outlets results eventually in self destruction. I'm a huge fan of the medical drama House, M.D. If you ever seen that show, and know Dr. House's character inside and out, well - it's exactly like that.
Because existence is the river of love, to fight against it and deny its current,
seems to be equal to death. But I'm not really sure about this.
I suppose I simply have not found her yet.

But I crave intelligence like a child might insatiably crave cotton candy.
The cotton candy of the mind.

Praxis

I think at least in some cases, psychedelic users also get to cash in on the rebellion and 'bad' associations with drugs. There are a lot of people who are attracted to rebels and drug users, either because they want them themselves or like the 'romance' associated with drug users (you know what I'm talking about). I've definitely been approached and hit on by girls who think of me as a 'cool drug person,' despite the fact that I am an almost terminally nerdy person and don't use all that frequently.

Blessings
~ND

Man...

Dem witches be hot!

What#s with all the "I'm so happy i'm not attractive" ?If you attract, you can effortlessly choose and pick. If you don't attract, you are the one being attracted by someone ALWAYS. You always have to give your power away. And while there always has to be one attractor and one atractee (?), i recon it's nice to experience both every once in a while and not be the one to fall for someome, get ignored like always and then cry everyday wishing you'd be dead.



So attractiveness at first glance breaks down to looks only?

A balance is definitely important. I think that an equal stance is important in any intimate relationship, rather than a "looking up to" or "down upon" perspective. Obviously it'd be near impossible to find a perfect balance, although I think it really comes down to self-worth. You have to have a concretized foundation of self worth in order for that balance to occur at all, and I think psychedelics have the potential to reinforce that emotional structure. You can't obtain what you feel you don't deserve.

Just catching up on this thread, its really interesting from the view point of understanding how other people think.

A microdose of LSD had a pretty girl at work absolutely eyefucking me, when she never did that before. I think there is a certain calm, strong assurance and focus that is very attractive. When you're "in the flow" it is a natural state of being. Most usually aren't "in the flow"; being so makes one stand out.

I find a low dose of around 30-50 mics LSD helps my anxiety in social situations. I once tried it in a customer facing role i.e. no heavy machinery Anyways it made me more able to take part in conversations I found mundane on other days, not because the people were boring but because it's not my zone. Anyway yeah I added conversation pieces where usually I may have just smiled politely or the awkward laugh.

I don't think that it made people more attracted to me, but it did give them more opportunity to express it if they already were.

As superficial as it sounds, the answer is yes for some people. I feel like it is generally more so for men than women. Men are visual creatures and the first thing we notice about a woman is, more often than not, what she looks like, especially at "first glance" ...

For the sake of the argument, I was jokingly referring to attractiveness being directly related to looks. But looks are not enough all by themselves, for me anyway. As Catch said, a balance is needed but it is definitely hard for some and harder for others to find that balance. Some attractive qualities never even surface until after you get together with that person and start finding out all the little quirks that you either love or hate.

"Attractive" is a very broad term that many of us interpret differently. That is the beauty of this this discussion, no?

When i am low on psychedelic tryptamines, i often catch myself looking away / avoiding eye contact of an attractive female coming my way.
After an threatment and with high tryptamine levels, i often see beautiful girls staring at me, then suddenly breaking eye contact while spilling their spaghetties all over the floor.

If at first you don't succeed, invert the roles

Also the "traditional weapons of a woman".... i use them against them. The effect is