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fractalmatter
#1 Posted : 7/15/2015 7:04:55 AM

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So, I just took my second journey into hyperspace. I sandwiched 70mg in between some ash & bud. Took a good 3 hits & held them in until I couldn't smoke anymore. I lay back, & close my eyes & I come in contact with this being who seems very human like but a giant & she was friendly. She showed me all these things to try & explain why evil exist & its purpose and how it's going to be eliminated one day. She seemed upset or frustrated that evil was dispersed everywhere & how a part of me was a part of it. A bunch of images flashed through my head & then things got a bit dark because evil energy was around me as if I was journeying through it feeling it as I passed through. And so I thought to myself, put the evil on me. I'll be a sacrifice and with my love I'll dissolve it. and as this happened it kind of hurt for a minute then I felt the evil dissolve and then fractal patterns danced through me for a second. This is the only patterns I seen the entire trip. I just don't understand, all the reports I read talk about this beautiful world of geometric shapes etc. I guess that's if you breakthrough? But I don't understand how I came in contact with a being if I didn't breakthrough? Also, my product is golden & waxy as if there's oils trapped in it. This might have something to do with it? I seem underwhelmed by the experience, as if I were expecting so much more but I know one day when I actually break through I'll be putting my foot in my mouth.
 

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anrchy
#2 Posted : 7/15/2015 7:45:39 AM

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First, I would leave all expectations at the door. The funny thing about dmt is that it will never meet your expectations. Either it will blow you away or it will seem like your powder is broken and not much is happening.

Second, I would upgrade your route of administration. Sandwiching 70mg of dmt isn't really a good idea in the first place and since your taking your dose in multiple hits rather than one you should expect less than par results most of the time.

I Have had some pretty profound experiences on pre-breakthrough doses that had plenty of visuals, and some just as amazing experiences with very little visuals. The visuals are not really THE experience. From your description you had a great experience with lots of lessons. I do understand the want you have to SEE the unsee-able but I wouldn't put your intentions into that.

Upgrading your device will make the biggest difference in my opinion. Razz
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fractalmatter
#3 Posted : 7/15/2015 8:46:08 AM

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Thank you, very good advice and insight. It was indeed a beautiful experience & I did learn from it.

The first time I used an oil burner, because I didn't want to invest in a VG or make a machine if this is something I was just going to try and experience and move along, but after my 2 experiences I've become intrigued by what's happening so I'm sure this is the beginning of a new journey for me. So, I'll definitely invest in some better equipment for future use.

I'm not obsessing over the lack of visuals, because my experiences are very insightful & totally worth it but considering how I have a very artsy mind and appreciation for beauty and science and geometry I was kind of bummed that I didn't see anything. In both trips the geometric flowing patterns were more of a being..I was just expecting a "place" of geometric structures? I always used to appreciate the visuals on high doses of shrooms there was something so magical about it. I feel like in these 2 dmt experiences that even though what was going on was profound my feelings of it seemed "dull" could this possibly be because I'm a stoner?

 
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#4 Posted : 7/15/2015 10:09:56 AM

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The thing is, it's difficult to know exactly how much you even got. So given that idea, it's highly likely what you experienced was just a low dose.

From my own experience low doses in the range of 5mg to 10mg have sometimes felt dull. I have even experienced a few around 15mg that weren't spectacular at all. There are quite a few things that could contribute to dulling the experience but from what you've said it seems most likely that you just received a very low dose even though you loaded 70mg.

Going in completely sober has always been my preferred way, eliminates any issues right off the bat that way.
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#5 Posted : 7/15/2015 12:43:48 PM

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anrchy wrote:
First, I would leave all expectations at the door. The funny thing about dmt is that it will never meet your expectations. Either it will blow you away or it will seem like your powder is broken and not much is happening.

Second, I would upgrade your route of administration. Sandwiching 70mg of dmt isn't really a good idea in the first place and since your taking your dose in multiple hits rather than one you should expect less than par results most of the time.

I Have had some pretty profound experiences on pre-breakthrough doses that had plenty of visuals, and some just as amazing experiences with very little visuals. The visuals are not really THE experience. From your description you had a great experience with lots of lessons. I do understand the want you have to SEE the unsee-able but I wouldn't put your intentions into that.

Upgrading your device will make the biggest difference in my opinion. Razz



So true well said ive had this happen dmt has a plan for all users and will show u what it wants to show you. I find 30mg 45mg is way easy to break through on just because you load more doesn't necessarily mean you will get more or break through any easier it could also do with over expectations you will get there.Love

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