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wesker
#1 Posted : 7/7/2015 7:50:21 AM

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has anyone heard anything about dandelion plant to healp cure cancer?

today i saw this at a news site and i only found non very scientific blogs claiming it may cure cancer cells, so it would be nice to know if cancer research has found something good.

here are the links ive found.

http://www.cancertutor.com/dandelionroot/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/c...ling-potential-1.2959815

http://www.cbc.ca/news/c...research-grant-1.1248382

http://www.medicaldaily....money-investigate-248180
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#2 Posted : 7/7/2015 9:01:37 AM

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wesker wrote:
has anyone heard anything about dandelion plant to healp cure cancer?

today i saw this at a news site and i only found non very scientific blogs claiming it may cure cancer cells, so it would be nice to know if cancer research has found something good.


Haven't clicked the links, but that's what Google Scholar told me:

Quote:
Aim of study: Dandelion extracts have been used in traditional Native American Medicine and Traditional
Chinese Medicine (TCM) for treatment of leukemia and breast cancer; however, the mechanism of action
remains unknown. Today, DRE is mainly marketed for management of gastrointestinal and liver disorders.
The current study aims to determine the anti-cancer activity of dandelion root extract (DRE) against
human leukemia, and to evaluate the specificity and mechanism of DRE-induced apoptosis

Selective induction of apoptosis through activation of caspase-8 in human leukemia cells (Jurkat) by dandelion root extract


Quote:
Our results show that the crude extract of dandelion leaf (DLE) decreased the growth of MCF-7/AZ breast cancer cells in an ERK-dependent manner, whereas the aqueous extracts of dandelion flower (DFE) and root (DRE) had no effect on the growth of either cell line.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18425335


And 6 hits on Pubmed for "Dandelion root extract cancer" with 2 free to read articles:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih....lion+root+extract+cancer

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#3 Posted : 7/7/2015 10:22:08 AM

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Never heard of it as an anti cancer drug. I know, first hand, that it works as a diuretic though. I once used a dandelion tea with a teaspoon of rock salt to stabilise a girl who had inadvertently overdosed on MDMA. Hospital later confirmed dilutional hyponatremia and told us that without that decoction, she may well have suffered irreversible brain damage.

+1 for natural medicine! Big grin
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#4 Posted : 7/7/2015 5:03:40 PM

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BongWizard wrote:
Never heard of it as an anti cancer drug. I know, first hand, that it works as a diuretic though. I once used a dandelion tea with a teaspoon of rock salt to stabilise a girl who had inadvertently overdosed on MDMA. Hospital later confirmed dilutional hyponatremia and told us that without that decoction, she may well have suffered irreversible brain damage.

+1 for natural medicine! Big grin


I'm a little confused. I thought MDMA was neurotoxic when the individual is dehydrated. Wouldn't a diuretic exacerbate that? Or is the idea to flush any remaining MDMA from her system? Just curious
 
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#5 Posted : 7/7/2015 5:49:14 PM

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Silly researchers, they notice something in a chinese book and then ignore the whole chapter explaining it and start from scratch.
In chinese medicine its not dandelion root thats normally used, its the whole plant- root and leaves. In the vast majority of cases its applied for its three main properties. Its diuretic (a property coming mainly from the leaves), its a liver and pancreatic stimulant, and it is a lymphatic stimulant. These properties often work together to assist in clearing out a condition, and its usually combined with another drug specific to combating that condition.
Diuretic helps you pee out excess fluid
Lymphatic stimulant helps the lymph flow more smoothly, allowing cellular debris to be removed and immune cells to circulate better (when blood circulates blood plasma 'leakes' into tissues, because the bloods pressurized the body cant push it back and so dumps it into a second circulatory system called the lymphatic system, this system has no pump so it gets clogged easily, the immune system uses this second circulatory system as a highway and processing plant- basically)
The liver stimulant effect helps with toxin metabolism.

These effects explain most cases of why its in cancer medicines. Sometimes other lymphatic stimulants are used in its place- like Arctium seed which isnt so strong a diruetic.
Dandelion may also have some more specific effect against some cancers, but view the research suspiciously. All the time I see reports like this and read the papers only to see that they are basing their claims on unrealistic doses. Also be suspicious of the fact that their lead was chinese medicine- using the whole plant- and their trial is testing only the root, european medicine Wut?

Still, dandelion is great medicine for many things from infected bug bites to cancer Smile I grow them on purpose.
Just consider them in context, generally as only a part of a proper treatment.
 
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#6 Posted : 7/7/2015 6:29:18 PM

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Psybin wrote:
BongWizard wrote:
Never heard of it as an anti cancer drug. I know, first hand, that it works as a diuretic though. I once used a dandelion tea with a teaspoon of rock salt to stabilise a girl who had inadvertently overdosed on MDMA. Hospital later confirmed dilutional hyponatremia and told us that without that decoction, she may well have suffered irreversible brain damage.

+1 for natural medicine! Big grin


I'm a little confused. I thought MDMA was neurotoxic when the individual is dehydrated. Wouldn't a diuretic exacerbate that? Or is the idea to flush any remaining MDMA from her system? Just curious


It would were she dehydrated. What happened is she was so over hydrated that her blood sodium levels were reduced by dilution. Hence dilutional hyponatremia (from Latin "hypo"- under "natrium"- sodium).
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#7 Posted : 7/7/2015 8:39:17 PM

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BongWizard wrote:

It would were she dehydrated. What happened is she was so over hydrated that her blood sodium levels were reduced by dilution. Hence dilutional hyponatremia (from Latin "hypo"- under "natrium"- sodium).


Ah, my apologies for not reading more closely. The scenario is so often dehydration with MDMA toxicity and overdose that I jumped the gun and made an assumption. Hats off at being able to diagnose and treat such a thing successfully. Thumbs up
 
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#8 Posted : 7/7/2015 10:08:35 PM

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Ah, my apologies for not reading more closely. The scenario is so often dehydration with MDMA toxicity and overdose that I jumped the gun and made an assumption. Hats off at being able to diagnose and treat such a thing successfully. Thumbs up


That's just being responsible, informed and aware of the situation and looking out for your friends and fellow human beings Smile knowledge is power and experience is the guide for using it Big grin
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#9 Posted : 7/7/2015 11:26:58 PM

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Auxin wrote:
Silly researchers, they notice something in a chinese book and then ignore the whole chapter explaining it and start from scratch.
In chinese medicine its not dandelion root thats normally used, its the whole plant- root and leaves. In the vast majority of cases its applied for its three main properties. Its diuretic (a property coming mainly from the leaves), its a liver and pancreatic stimulant, and it is a lymphatic stimulant. These properties often work together to assist in clearing out a condition, and its usually combined with another drug specific to combating that condition.
Diuretic helps you pee out excess fluid
Lymphatic stimulant helps the lymph flow more smoothly, allowing cellular debris to be removed and immune cells to circulate better (when blood circulates blood plasma 'leakes' into tissues, because the bloods pressurized the body cant push it back and so dumps it into a second circulatory system called the lymphatic system, this system has no pump so it gets clogged easily, the immune system uses this second circulatory system as a highway and processing plant- basically)
The liver stimulant effect helps with toxin metabolism.

These effects explain most cases of why its in cancer medicines. Sometimes other lymphatic stimulants are used in its place- like Arctium seed which isnt so strong a diruetic.
Dandelion may also have some more specific effect against some cancers, but view the research suspiciously. All the time I see reports like this and read the papers only to see that they are basing their claims on unrealistic doses. Also be suspicious of the fact that their lead was chinese medicine- using the whole plant- and their trial is testing only the root, european medicine Wut?

Still, dandelion is great medicine for many things from infected bug bites to cancer Smile I grow them on purpose.
Just consider them in context, generally as only a part of a proper treatment.



Well, Auxin beat me to it, as I would have stated just about the same thing.

Here's a little rundown anyway:

Pharmaceutical name: Herba Tarxaci Mongolici cum Radice
Botanincal name: Taraxacum mongolicum Hand.-Mazz.
Family: compositae
Where grown: throughout China, especially Shanxi, Hebei, Shandong, and the northeast
When harvested: when the flowers just begin to open
Alternate names: gong ying, huang hua gong ying
English: dandelion
Properties: bitter, sweet, cold
Channels entered: Liver, Stomach
Text in which first appeared: Tang Materia Medica

ACTIONS & INDICATIONS:
-Clears heat and relieves fire toxicity: for any heat disorder, especially Liver heat with red, swollen, and painful eyes.
-Reduces abscesses and dissipates nodules; for abscesses and sores, particularly if they are firm and hard. Especially useful for breast and Instestinal abscesses. Can be used both internally and topically.
-Promotes lactation: especially for insufficient lactation due to heat.
-Clears heat and resolves dampness; for damp-heat jaundice and painful urinary dysfunction.

MAJOR COMBINATIONS:
-With Fructus Trichosanthis (gua lou), Bulbus Fritillariae Thunbergii (zhe bei mu), and Myrrha (mo yao) for breast abscess, carbuncles, and furuncles.
-With Flos Lonicerae Japonicae (jin yin hua) for all hot, painful, hard, and deep-rooted boils. Add Fructus Forsythiae Suspsensae (lian qiao) and Flos Chrysanthemi Indici (ye ju hua) to strengthen the effect. This combination is also used for heat excess in the Stomach or Intestines.
-With Herba cum Radice Houttuyniae Cordatae (yu xing cao) and Semen Benincasae Hispidae (dong gua ren) for Lung abscess with purulent sputum.
-With Flos Chrysanthemi Morifolii (ju hua) and Radix Scutellariae Baicalensis (huang qin) for redness and swelling of the eyes.
-With Spica Prunellae Vulgaris (xia ku cao) for subcutaneous phlegm nodules.
-With Herba Lysimachiae (jin qian cao) and Rhizoma Imperatae Cylindricae (bai mao gen) for painful urinary dysfunction.

CAUTIONS & CONTRAINDICATIONS: See Toxicity below. Overdosage can cause mild diarrhea.

DOSAGE: 9-30g. Good quality has many green leaves and the root is intact.

MAJOR KNOWN INGREDIENTS: taraxasterol choline, inulin, pectin

PHARMACOLOGICAL & CLINICAL RESEARCH:
-Antimicrobial effect: Preparations if Herba Taraxaci Mongolici cum Radice (pu gong ying) have shown an in vitro bactericidal effect against Staphylococcus aureus, even when these bacteria were resistant to other antimicrobials. The herb also has an in vitro bactericidal effect against Streptococcus pneumoniae, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Shigella spp., Neisseria meningitidis, and Carynebacterium diptheriae. It has some in vitro inhibitory action against Mycobacterium tuberculosis, ECHO virus, and Leptospira.

TOXICITY: Herba Taraxici Mongolici cum Radice (pu gong ying) is a relatively safe herb with an LD50 of 50g/kg in mice and a record of relatively few side effects. However, there can be heartburn with oral administration. Allergic reactions are rare with intravenous injection.
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#10 Posted : 7/8/2015 12:17:15 AM

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