While I am well past my first steps in hyperspace, this is where I am allowed to post currently due to my newly obtained membership so I thought I would share it here. I just got done with session about an hour ago. It was the most odd experience of my life. There is nothing that is even a close second.

I loaded my VG up and put my headphones on. My all time favorite song both sober and for DMT experiences was playing (Tool's Reflection). I have used this song dozens of times and it always enhances the experience plus it is 11 minutes long so it lasts pretty much the entire trip usually. I forget it is playing entirely and it is like the music is part of the experience. It always takes me to a similar place, though never too similar. Anyways, I lit the torch and inhaled. That familiar feeling began as I placed the VG and torch down on my nightstand. I closed my eyes and reached over for the lamp cord to kill the lights. And there I was again. Once the effects started to subside I felt as if I needed to reload and go again. I usually find the most depth in the second and third sessions. I loaded the VG and restarted the song. As I began to inhale, everything was business as usual (if that is appropriate to say of this molecule). But then the strangest thing happened. I began to feel a VERY PHYSICAL feeling of some kind of dark energy surging throughout my body. A very violent feeling. Not violent in the sense that it was trying to harm me but violent in the sense that it felt like I was becoming some kind of violent entity. I opened my eyes because it was very unsettling. The feeling did not subside but continued to grow stonger and stronger. Like electricity shooting through my entire being, both body and soul. I sat up lotus style on my bed and closed my eyes again. I began to accept this energy and thought "do whatever is needed" in regards to that energy. Almost immediately I felt like some kind of demonic entity. I transformed. I felt like I could kill a lion with my bare hands. I had passing thoughts that I could light my entire house on fire with my mind. That I could conquer the entire world. I felt so incredibly strong and concrete. Then, just as the energy came, it left and I was almost back to "normal" if such a thing exists.

This is not typical for me at all. I am not a violent person. I have been in the past. I changed that long ago. I have no desire to control or conquer anything. I enjoy peace and tranquility and my experiences usually follow this model. When I return from hyperspace I always feel revived and happy. Not the case today. I feel angry. I feel like I just want to be left alone. I tried to read a book (What is Hypnosis by Andrew Salter) to calm me down and I can't even finish a chapter. I have vaped DMT in the hundreds of times and I have met many dark entities and had many dark experiences. I have learned to embrace that darkness and you always come out the other side thankful for having embraced it. This was something different altogether. I tried to embrace it but it was just excessive.

Has anyone else experienced something like this?

Anger is fear turned inward.

You know I have heard such things and I know that such things are widely believed amongst the New Age spiritual movements and many psychonauts but I just can't believe that it can be narrowed down like that. All emotions are necessary evolutionary traits. They are all useful in their own right. Fear and anger are seperate as are the rest of the emotions we experience. I don't see how the two ever were combined. The important thing is to moderate and control your emotions. Moderation is the key in almost everything. I am a very controlled person. So, while it is possible, I don't cite emotional instability for this experience. It is hard to put into words. I did the best I could. But this was an entirely different occurance. Very new feelings.

Fear or love. For me all emotions can be broken down into those two things and that is it. That is not to discount the power of each individual emotion. It is just a breakdown to emotion's simplest form.

Tool has good music but I just couldn't imagine listening to heavy fast angry drums like in reflection before or during a DMT experience, I can see where anger might get incorporated in the mix. Try something like this Chillout with the only thought in your mind being just how awesome it is to be alive.

Ive had around 30-40 trips and have only had 2 experiences that weren't ideal, one was because I tried doing it for the hell of it instead of waiting for the calling. The second was because I had a strained upper neck muscle from weight lifting, after holding the vapor in for 15 seconds and with the usual increased heart rate/blood pressure it was just too much and sent a very painful thumping headache to my upper neck/back of head. It really helps to feel good mentally and physically before hand not just same same.

Here is another track that is hard to feel negative about....Solitude

Yep fear or love just as Jim Carrey said.

im always surprised when people with time under the cosh are surprised with a new type of DMT experience.

the reason it was odd? well, DMT is odd.

To me and in imo DMT has its own feelings now i have limited experience so anything i say can be taken with a grain of salt but maybe it wasn't in the mood. I look at it this way we are asking questions maybe many questions and it can get frustrating answering... ??

Just my take on it

I mainly dont have music but when i do its along the lines of this "The Book of Eli Original Soundtrack: Panoramic"

Thanks for sharing that song Panoramic. Very nice.

Your very welcome!

I'm part of the camp that not everything in hyperspace is meant to be embraced or acquiesced to. I seek to avoid "physical" or local contact with dark energy/entities. A positive entity once taught me to throat sing to defend myself, and it is the most useful and reassuring tool I have for traveling in hyperspace should things go awry. I know the feelings you have are very disconcerting, but they should fade. In the future, you may find the throat singing to provide such a strong and physical vibration that it scrambles hyperspace, and can potentially rearrange entities into more pleasing configurations.

You are probably right. I should not have been surprised. After a few hundred times I should know that you have never found the end of it. You never reach the bottom. It is just that this experience was so very odd. So very real. And very grounded in this world rather than in "hyperspace". Maybe that is what made it seem so odd. Being connected to this body and this experience is just atypical for my experiences.

See, we differ in perspective there. I don't feel like Reflection is angry or heavy really. It is very mellow, grounding, and peaceful in my opinion. It feels deep and spiritual to me even when I am sober. But that is all subjective I suppose.

I too am part of that camp. Not everything in hyperspace is a ideal for every person. I have met entities that were not pleasant or happy to meet me. Several times. It has never bothered me or left me scratching my head afterwards like this time. I embrace the darkness and so called "evil" forces in those realms often. But this one was very different and I do not wish to be in that state again. I won't let it cause fear or deter me and if it happens again I will ride it out and try and learn whatever lessons may be learned from the experience.

As far as throat singing goes, I am not familiar with it in the slightest. But I have never felt that an experience has warranted avoiding or that I needed defend myself. I like to approach life from a Nietzsche type perspective and that includes the experience in alternate realms. You know, whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger. If you believe such things.

I understand the the breakdown. It makes sense. I just don't see it that way. I feel like each emotion is original entirely. Maybe similar but I feel they all have their own origins and methods.

From my experience, this is akin to sticking your head in a bucket of leeches. Sure you could do it and live, but at what cost?

Eh, I agree to an extent. I am willing to subject myself to harsh conditions if it is realistic and prudent. If I had reason to think that I would in the future be subjected to a bucket of leeches on my head, I might give it a go. I am not completely in support of a Nietzche style approach. Only when the situation warrants.

Hello Dark Medicine!

I too have had profound experiences in my beginning phase
left me totally shell shocked for weeks after.

As someone mentioned earlier, it´ll pass and when you
have absorbed it all you are all good to go for the next one mate!