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Hi - Had an interesting experience recently on a 1:1:1 changa voyage which I'm still integrating. I'd be interested in your experience. In short, I felt like I was being farmed. This wasn't a bad "evil things are sucking my soul" type experience, it felt symbiotic - I received information, "they" received something they needed. Journal excerpts below. Thanks, 0. Quote:I could see entities more distinctly this time. Two in particular watched me arriving and being settled into this landscape. It was like they were farmers. I could not see their faces, (which is a common theme), but I had the distinct impression of overalls, a foot resting on the lower rung of a rail, hay coming from a mouth. None of these things were quite as literal as I describe them, but more filled with blue and green than the rest of the evolving landscape and obviously a different sort of sentience. They had a distinct shape and form to them which was outside the makeup of the background. They watched me and made no attempt to communicate with me. I felt like cattle being surveyed in a pen. This wasn’t a good or a bad feeling, it just was.
I fell back into the warmth and felt at peace. Soon after I felt myself opening my mouth, or being urged to. I decided this was ok, so I did. It felt like things were being put into me. At first, I thought of the surgeon experience ages ago, but then it struck me – I was being milked or something. It was ok. It felt symbiotic, not exploitative, but this could just be me being delusional. I don’t know. I do remember feeling cared for. Not as an equal though, more like a pet. Or a cow. The warmth of the embrace I felt made me drift away and not care. Occasionally I felt like my hair was being tussled like you’d scratch a cat behind the ears. I went with it. During this phase I felt like there was an exchange of information going on, but this was very one-sided – the way an adult would distract and manipulate a toddler. I came to realise I was being distracted with information so that they could do what they wanted – feed? Harvest? I don’t know, but it didn’t matter – despite sounding so freaky. It was like I was just now aware of something that always happens, not something new or to be feared.
At some part of this experience, I began to feel something tugging at my lower jaw, trying to make me turn my head or open my mouth wider. This I didn’t like and it didn’t feel right at all. I resisted it and concentrated on the warmth and the caring which I presumed was coming from the “farmers” whose intent seemed pure. Whatever was doing the tugging went away. I remember thinking that this is what livestock must feel like when the wolves are driven off. I’m not sure if it was exactly then but I do remember a wizard type thing watching over me and sending things away. This may have happened at this point.
This process went on for a while. I could quite literally feel things sliding into and down my throat. This felt like it was important. I was dimly aware of being distracted by more kindergarten type imagery to keep my attention on the surface of the experience so I didn’t interrupt the “work” that was being undertaken. “Work” feels like the right word. This was an organised effort going on.
Sometime during this process of distraction where I was receiving wonderful information and insights, (that I can no longer recall), I became aware of a disagreement in the gathered host. Something along the lines of “O why are you even bothering showing him that? He can’t understand it and won’t be able to bring it back”. That’s why I described the interaction as an exchange. It wasn’t like I was being bullshitted with nonsense, (that I know of), but there was a definite power imbalance at play.
This feeling of being opened and inserted, fed upon, came and went throughout the experience – both in the peak stages and during the comedown phase following. It was almost like I was giving myself to one thing which would detach and a little while later something else would return. During these stages I would have recurring flashes or images of some jellyfish-like creature or something like an octopus with suckered tentacles. Whatever it was I felt like I was connecting to the tendrils or the tentacles during this feeding phase. I never really saw these things, it was more of an awareness that this is what they were and what was happening to me.
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I can relate to your experience but I did not feel like I was being farmed. I felt as though they were trying to fix something. It did seem like urgent work. I also felt a genuine good intent from those operating on my mind. Hey!! You there!! Look at this cool stuff we have over here... and all the work is happening the other direction. They are good at this! What do you think they are farming? "In the universe there is an immeasurable, indescribable force which shamans call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link." ~Carlos Castaneda
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I'm really not sure what they were farming...
It was different to the surgeon experience I had before. That was a more definite awareness of the words "lung cancer" and then things being stuck into a specific position in my chest. This was much more like there was something they needed to do which involved them, not me. There was definite care and attention for me, but the outcome felt like their own concern.
Weird one! Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
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Look up Robert Monroe and Loosh. He thought we were being farmed as well, and considering his massive contribution to astral projection theory I think there might be something to it. On two occasions during lucid dreams I have had capsule or pill-type things placed in my throat for me to swallow, once it was spit down my throat quickly so I could not resist, the other time it was simply placed in my mouth with instructions to swallow. After both instances I had massive kundalini eruptions afterward where I felt the serpent energy fighting its way up and out my crown chakra over many hours of scary and unpleasant shocks and tremors. I'm not sure exactly what the purpose of this is, but I think maybe the things placed within us are symbiote eggs that use our energy body as a hatching place, and the kundalini organism then leaves after burrowing through closed chakras to exit at the crown.
A second explanation I've thought of is that perhaps if everything is a simulation and we inhabit bodies made of code then maybe we are being infected with beneficial virii or phages that seek out corrupted code and modify it. (I'm a big fan of Tom Campbell and Simulation Theory, my belief system is a cross with that and Gnosticism) These experience have the odd feeling of being an upgrade of sorts, so that could explain it.
I know this sounds quite insane but kundalini is a real thing, and these implanted experiences seem tied into it, and when you are having a kundalini awakening it doesn't really feel like "your" energy, it feels like something very similar to an independantly sentient anaconda is pushing its way up through the hollow part of your spine and out the top of your skull. Afterwards you feel hollow and cleansed, and it definately feels like an upgrade of sorts, so there is a positive tradeoff. But the tantric myth about being enlightened after the sahasara opens is a myth. I've had the experience twice and have no permanent bliss to speak of. Mushrooms, dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dpt can all can artificially trigger the experience at heroic doses. The chakras will slowly close afterwards though unless you are a ascetically perfected pure and totally loving person, lower emotions of any sort shuts the gates.
note: i won't read any replies to this because i'm pretty sure i will harassed for my strange perspective on reality, but rest assured I am not schizophrenic and do not hear voices, have sober hallucinations, etc. Best wishes on your research into this phenomena and do not get too paranoid about alien parasitism, there seems to be a higher benevolent beneficial purpose to all of this.
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Quote:note: i won't read any replies to this because i'm pretty sure i will harassed for my strange perspective on reality, but rest assured I am not schizophrenic and do not hear voices, have sober hallucinations, etc. Best wishes on your research into this phenomena and do not get too paranoid about alien parasitism, there seems to be a higher benevolent beneficial purpose to all of this. C'mon, nobody will harass you, it's your perspective. Btw +1 for Tom Campbell and Robert Monroe, mixing it with Gnosticism seems to be an interesting reality tunnel. I also experienced lingering alien surgeons once, but they served more as a warning which sounded like: get your sh*t together or there's a need for us to get you on the operating table. Also interesting, all the paranoid cultural themes on being farmed that I'm aware of were released 1998-1999: * The active side of infinity by Carlos Castaneda (1998 ) * Dark City (1998 movie) * The Matrix (1999 movie) Quotations from "The active side of infinity": Quote:[page 168] "What is at stake now is the advent of a disintegrating force. But not a force that is disintegrating you -- I don't mean it that way. It is disintegrating what the sorcerers call the foreign installation, which exists in you and in every other human being. The effect of the force that is descending on you, which is disintegrating the foreign installation, is that it pulls sorcerers out of their syntax." Quote:[page 219] "We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner!
"There is an explanation," don Juan replied, "which is the simplest explanation in the world. They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, gallineros, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."
"But how can they do this, don Juan?' [Carlos] asked, somehow angered further by what [don Juan] was saying. "Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?"
"No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver, stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."
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I think it is important to look at the state of the world by way of pure common sense... One species on earth just suddenly happen to become intelligent... Completely alone on earth and confined by an unfathomable universe they happen to just pop out computers and electrical machines over a couple hundred years... Oh, and I suppose I should just assume all of this to be coincidence then? Absolutely it would seem it would be for something of an extra-terrestrial origin.
More stars in the universe than grains of sand on all the beaches of the world and we are expected to believe that we are a fluke of nature with no ryhme or reason.
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Farming is an interesting way to put it . I've had many many Similar experiences where I've had the distinct feeling that entity-like things are taking , feeding , farming or getting something from me. Sometimes a parasitic feeling . I once had the image of an elaborate circus show that has you transfixed with full attention while the entities Creep around behind and steal your wallet. Personally I feal that if this kind of experience is repeating numerous times it bears looking at more closely. This is definetly the case with me. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Arthur C. Clarke http://vimeo.com/32001208
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It's always felt like an impartial symbiosis in nearly all my experiences.
A symbiosis between Spirit and matter.
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Dark City and The Matrix are both heavely infused with Phillip K Dicks Gnostik Angst. He spoke of an "iron black prison" of the mind and that the roman empire never ended, all after an mystic experience which had distinct prophetic properties. He also (ab)used Methamphetamines , mostly, but i think he had a fair share of every classic hallucinogenic. I never saw that particular experience that way. I ALWAYS felt upgraded afterwards. Some of these tentacles stuck in your brain/mind/soul experiences where a little rough, but i never felt evil intent from the "doctors" or the tentacle things. More of an symbiosis than an takeover.
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fathomlessness wrote:One species on earth just suddenly happen to become intelligent... Completely alone on earth and confined by an unfathomable universe they happen to just pop out computers and electrical machines over a couple hundred years...
Oh, and I suppose I should just assume all of this to be coincidence then? well i dont think its coincidence its progression, its like the way it took much less time to produce an iPhone than it did to produce the first computer, even though the iPhone is massively more powerfull and complex than the first computer. We are building upon knowledge and our progress becomes quicker as the process evolves. we are standing on the shoulders of increasingly larger giants. our intelligence has been building over millions and millions of years as we evolved through the many many stages of life that led to the eventual situation that we find ourselves in now. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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I've had bees buzzing at my head, seemingly drinking my 'nectar'...that felt very good! But on a heavy dose of shrooms & rue, I was down in the mycelium (I think...) watching everything get chewed up, broken down and re-combined. That was quite dark. “I sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: “are all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.” ― B.G. Bowers
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Tattvamasi wrote:It's always felt like an impartial symbiosis in nearly all my experiences.
A symbiosis between Spirit and matter. Yes, I tend to agree with Tatt. My past few experiences have been along the lines of "being worked in/on." Is as if there is reverse engineering in progress. Take it apart to see how it works, and then see if there are areas that are in need of "adjustments." What if.... you are the farmer, and your body is the farm? Sometimes it's good for a change. Other times it isn't.
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3rdI wrote:fathomlessness wrote:One species on earth just suddenly happen to become intelligent... Completely alone on earth and confined by an unfathomable universe they happen to just pop out computers and electrical machines over a couple hundred years...
Oh, and I suppose I should just assume all of this to be coincidence then? well i dont think its coincidence its progression, its like the way it took much less time to produce an iPhone than it did to produce the first computer, even though the iPhone is massively more powerfull and complex than the first computer. We are building upon knowledge and our progress becomes quicker as the process evolves. we are standing on the shoulders of increasingly larger giants. our intelligence has been building over millions and millions of years as we evolved through the many many stages of life that led to the eventual situation that we find ourselves in now. If you do enough home work (YouTube not included), you will find out that primitive humans were enhanced by ancient visitors, Assyrian Gods, Nephilim etc. That is why it took us five hundred thousand years to go from blunt tools to sharpened tools. Then within fifty thousand years we had gone to the moon (supposedly).
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Being a big fan of Philip K. Dick I was going to mention him also. I actually became interested in him a lot after having an experience similar to the one you describe. It was one of the most bizarre experiences I've had, drug-induced or not. There is a heavy thread of paranoia running through all of Philip K. Dick's work. Pharmacognosis wrote:A second explanation I've thought of is that perhaps if everything is a simulation and we inhabit bodies made of code then maybe we are being infected with beneficial virii or phages that seek out corrupted code and modify it. (I'm a big fan of Tom Campbell and Simulation Theory, my belief system is a cross with that and Gnosticism) These experience have the odd feeling of being an upgrade of sorts, so that could explain it. I've always enjoyed entertaining the possibility of Simulation Theory. I also came up with this explanation after the experience I had. I hadn't really read much about Sim. Theory before this either, and the experience itself is what piqued my interest. I notice throughout this thread that people use the term "upgrade", and that's exactly how it felt. And for the most part, the "doctors" or the entities who are "working" on us are entirely benign and seem to heal and help. Then there are darker beings who seem to only take, never give. The experiences I had with those beings are what made me feel like I was being harvested or farmed, as you put it. And probably what made me identify with Philip K. Dick's work so much.
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That's interesting, just last night I smoked some DMT because I felt the need to (had a huge argument with GF over the weekend), my mind was still going haywire from the argument, and after taking a small dose I saw a projection of myself with my mouth open and an endless stream of speech was coming out of it, then the surgeons were like "hey bro calm down, you are talking too much and not listening, just shut up for a second and we'll work on you". Since it was a small dose I could not see them, just felt their work on me and I was in total relaxation state after the comedown.
Dunno what's going on with these guys, I don't recall meeting them before, the other time that I felt I was abducted it was very intense and I felt shocks inside my brain that made me twitch.
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Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences with me. There are a lot of new concepts and references for me to dig into - which I will do with a ravenous hunger.
I very much appreciate you all taking the time to reply.
Cheers!
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DeltaSpice wrote: If you do enough home work (YouTube not included), you will find out that primitive humans were enhanced by ancient visitors, Assyrian Gods, Nephilim etc. That is why it took us five hundred thousand years to go from blunt tools to sharpened tools. Then within fifty thousand years we had gone to the moon (supposedly).
sounds rather dubious to me, what evidence is provided for this? do you have any links to credible websites as i can only find info on this type of thing on conspiracy websites cheers INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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ooo0ooo wrote:Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences with me. There are a lot of new concepts and references for me to dig into - which I will do with a ravenous hunger.
If you want to start with Tom Campbell, simulation theory, negative entities and all that, check out: Quote:Bullying, Voodoo and NPMR Assisted BullyingI have had to deal with such entities on a dozen or so occasions -- typically shaman or black arts practitioners (voodoo, etc) typically from Africa or Madagascar but sometimes from the West. They usually are very confident and taken with their own power (particularly when combined with others with whom they work (both physical and nonphysical). Often they have one or more nonphysical mentors that they evoke in their behalf when they are unable to succeed or accomplish something on their own. Always, they are completely unaware of just how limited they and their mentors, and their mentors' mentors, really are. Even at its most powerful, such skills and alliances with others (both physical and nonphysical) constitutes a short blind alley in the bigger picture. LCS = larger consciousness system NPMR = non physical matter reality PMR = physical matter reality http://www.mbtevents.com...ng_-_My_Big_TOE_Wiki.pdfhttp://www.mbtevents.com/Free_Stuff.html Tom Campbell is a physicist and worked for NASA, but also has/had a second career together with Bob Monroe, inventing and exploring new OBE methods for ~ 40 years. He takes a bigger perspective on such things as remote viewing/healing, going out of body, negative entities, shamanism, the larger consciousness system etc. pp. - imo convincing, as he's not your regular spaced out hippy dude but a rather grounded and calm person. His Yt-Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/twcjr44/videosDark City is available on YT in HD:
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