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Avalokiteśvara
#1 Posted : 5/28/2015 2:17:40 AM

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Hello my dear nexus brethren! I am a long time lurker and a big fan of this forum, and I have benefited from the content and the community immensly for which I am eternally grateful.

Until recently I have just been lurking, smoalking moar, keeping to myself and having a jolly old time, not even trying to put my voyages into words(impossible, futile), but today something happened that truly shook me to the core, and i feel it has to go out.

Now, I am quite an experienced psychonaut, lover of all things extreme, and am more then happy to shred my ego to pieces, and have a nice old laugh about it Smile

Anyway, I have decided that today is a psychedelic wednesday, so as usual i sat on my psybike(i do most of my psychedelics biking out in the nature) and did not forget to ingest cca 600mics of very fine lysergic vitamines..

the day was going along real nice, and as the susnet neared, i decided to retire to a nearby grove where I streched my hammock between two tall and slender trees and decided that this would be a good opportunity to have a puff of good ole changa in my gvg and see if anything is new in hyperspace..

the amount smoalked was eyeballed but really not that much(i have been known to smoalk much moar then that), so i was quite unprepared for a cosmic asswhoopin that was about to unravel...

so as we perfectly vapourized the herb, i happily threw away the glass pipe and braced for hyperspatial impact with a silly old smile on my face as always..

and there we were in hyperspace, blisfully happy for a moment or two until something quite weird and remarkable happened.

i saw a little hyperspace object, sort of like a baby's drawing of a house, and it was very binary in nature, so it was either in one hyperpace state/color/form or the other, switching between two states, on and off, off and on. and it just kept switching in binary for what seemed an eternity, until I realised that I am that object and my whole existence has been reduced to this binary form, either one or zero, either black or white, up or down, left or right, hyperspace object 1 or 0!!!!!!!!!

time has by then stopped, past present future did not exist anymore, and in my despair to regain form and "be" i desperatly asked the hyperspace but what about my life, family, friends, to which the hyperspace replied:

it doesnt exist. it never did. an elaborate illusion invented to entertain you and keep you from madness in these infinite halls of eternity.

but but i cried, but I am this, I am that, i am, i, i, to which hyperspace replied:

you are bbbzzzzztttttVibrationnnnnbbbbbzzzzt<hyperspace_sound>NOTHING</hyperspace_sound>..

At that moment I experienced what can only be described as the damnation of eternal (binary)existence.

I couldn't do anything but blip back and forth, one,zero,zero,one, black white, this, that, flipping like a fish on dry land gasping for water.

To which hyperspace coldly replied:

you are either one or a zero. nothing more. nothing less. it has always been like that. it is and always will be.

at that moment the option of death seemed like a gift from God, as opposed to being stuck in an eternity - your essence constrained to just being black or white, one or a zero. nothing more. nothing less.

And as I was there in the primordial cosmic eternity, further explanations were communicated to me.

I was told that they/we have been there forever and will be there forever.

having an eternity at their disposal they/we have created and directly experienced existence in all kinds of multiverses, universes, xverses, life forms and levels of consciousness, and we have been through it all.

they/we have created it all, tried it all, seen it all, experienced it all been through it all.

we are eternal, remember? eternal.

As I was being revealed all these things and still flipping in my empty binary form, they saw that I was still pretty much freaking out and not accepting the facts, so they have compassionately opened a ginormous fractal book/tree of existence, and returned me to a small segment of the fractal which is my life/identity/existance.

They told me:

go ahead son, you're still not ready for all this, enjoy this instance of an illusion(your life), you'll be just fine, hee..heee.</hyperspace_laugh>..

but after having been shown this.. in my heart of hearts I know that I am the universal being who has experienced it all, and I have been all of you and every other sentient being.

only now I truly understand what compassion really means, and what Buddha, Jesus and other venerable ones were telling us all along.

I apologize for my somewhat erratic tone, but I am still very much shaken to the core of my being by what just happened, and nothing ever ever could prepare me for this. Integration of this one is gonna take a while. a lifetime.

But I am still so happy to be alive and defined as a something more then a binary entity somwhere in the far corners of eternal hyperspace, there is nothing more life affirming and liberating then tasting the damnation of pure hell.

Unlike Gibran2 I was not blessed with the luxury of forgetfullness so I have to live with this for the rest of my days, for better of worse.

Anyhow it is getting quite late, and I am so very happy to be alive and writing all of this to you my beloved brothers and sisters in arms.

whomever is still reading this: hello me, its me, remember? Smile

with unconditional love, yours truly,

Avalokitesvara
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#2 Posted : 5/28/2015 2:36:48 AM

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Great story Avalokitesvara! I don't mean to nitpick you but paragraphs make reading much easier and more enjoyable. It's so easy to type type type and then you look up and there is this wall of text. I do the same thing. It doesn't bother me so much as I think it does others. People are more likely to read through and comment to your posts.


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#3 Posted : 6/14/2015 10:51:10 PM
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Hey, great report - though a little bit hard to read due to no paragraphs Pleased

I, too, experienced binary existence in some of my n2o+weed trips. But I also experienced, aside any drug experience, that we are perfection and that there is something beyond binary existence (or information) which is undescribable and could be called pure, untouched consciousness which equals pure ecstacy and joy.

Avalokiteśvara wrote:
only now I truly understand what compassion really means, and what Budda, Jesus and other venerable ones were telling us all along.


What exactly do you mean by that? I would be very interested to hear more from you and what you have experienced Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 6/14/2015 11:02:29 PM

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You saying I'm just a figment of your imagination? Smile
 
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#5 Posted : 6/14/2015 11:50:31 PM

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Hello me Smile It's a nice illusion we have here, with the lights and shadows and whatnot, but the colours are a little muddy and very, very, very limited (though they can be enhanced, makes for a nicer day Smile ) I'm getting a little bored with this illusion, I have others in mind. I think you'll like them when you see them (I think you liked them when you saw them) [Us | like | see | illusion101111101101110011000101 ]
The best!
Very happy

Happy dreams. Smile

And remember, the true mystery isn't the binary data. It's how all those zeroes and ones amount to consciousness and love and all the things above and below.

Love, love love love

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Not a single zero or one is out of place.
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#6 Posted : 6/15/2015 3:44:03 AM

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Yup, that sounds about right. You got the message, congratulations!
 
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#7 Posted : 6/15/2015 4:18:29 AM

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Sounds like you've got the same wild man attitude I do Big grin "only 150 mics each?? Better give me 5 of em!!" Sound familiar? Laughing



"Today a young man on acid realise that all matter is just energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is just a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves."
-Bill Hicks

"For a timeless moment, a reality is experienced that exposes a gleam of the transcendental reality, in which universe and self, sender and receiver, are one."
-Dr. Albert Hofmann

Ahhhh, the universal consciousness. DMT and LSD is good for that (my personal favourite combo). What I take from this kind of experience is that we are the consciousness of the universe. Without us to experience and appreciate its wonder and beauty, it could not exist as it does.

The anthropic principle suggests that, if we wish to answer the question of why the universe exists as it does, then we must consider that the answer must be that it has qualities which encourage intelligent beings to arise who are capable of asking the question.

So while we may or may not all be one consciousness, we are all bound to the universe so we can experience and appreciate it thus allowing it to exist in the beautifully imperfect perfection that it does.
"Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be a spirit of tolerance in the entire population." -Albert Einstein


I'm not a big fan of SWIM. I mean, I've never met the guy, but any time I hear about him, he's doing something sketchy.
 
Avalokiteśvara
#8 Posted : 6/15/2015 10:10:55 PM

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Djitin wrote:
Hey, great report - though a little bit hard to read due to no paragraphs Pleased

My apologies to everyone, but sometimes when one is still trembling and writing about the most astonishing revelation in your entire life, one tends to forget paragraphs etc Smile


Avalokiteśvara wrote:
only now I truly understand what compassion really means, and what Budda, Jesus and other venerable ones were telling us all along.


Djitin wrote:

What exactly do you mean by that? I would be very interested to hear more from you and what you have experienced Smile


Ok, so this was the core lesson from the experience, cant stop thinking about it, and probably never will..

I was clearly shown that I was universal consciousness manifesting itself in infinite ways, aspects, varieties and instances.

I am the eye with which the universe beholds itself.

So, once I was/will be a tree, an ant, a pig, a dog, a postman, annoying neighbour, that hot chick crossing the road, a starving kid in africa, a russian oligarch, a buddha, hitler(ouch), you name it brother. This is truly a shocking idea/concept, and I am still coming to terms with this, not a day goes by without me pondering...

If we adopt this realization as a truth, then compassion is the most natural and logical thing in the whole universe!!

If I do evil to you (time is an illusion - so you are me) then I am doing harm to myself.
If I do good to you, converse is true - I am doing good for myself!

ever notice how truly happy and fullfilled you are when you do a good and compassionate deed, not expecting anything in return? that is it!

sharing and compassion is in our DNA!

This is true happiness and it cannot be compared to fake ego fueled happiness which is empty and transient, because it cannot and does not want to be shared (ego is not is happy when entire neighbourhood has a ferarri. the "happiness" is here only when I have a ferrari and nobody else).

I believe that Jesus had the same realization, as he was tortured and crucified, his heart was full of compassion, and he said "Father forgive them for they don't know what they are doing".

Buddha said "You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.".

The universal core of all major religions and teachings of the venerable ones is love and compassion.

the golden rule of All religions says "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

Now I see it for myself.

BTW I highly recommend metta and tibetan tonglen compassion meditation, very powerful and healing, and will open your heart and mind to this realization in the most wonderful way!

may all beings be happy!
May all beings be happy!
 
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#9 Posted : 6/15/2015 10:14:25 PM

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spacexplorer wrote:
You saying I'm just a figment of your imagination? Smile



More like we are all figments of the Universal imagination! Big grin

Confusing, I know. still working on that one, will let you know if I find out more!


May all beings be happy!
 
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#10 Posted : 6/15/2015 10:30:51 PM

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Great report...

Awesome, humbling experience...

Welcome back to your present existence!Thumbs up

Avlokitesvara is my favorite bodhisatva!Big grin

Peace be with all of us.
Freedom's so hard
When we are all bound by laws
Etched in the scheme of nature's own hand
Unseen by all those who fail
In their pursuit of fate
 
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#11 Posted : 6/15/2015 10:39:14 PM

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Yup, that sounds about right. You got the message, congratulations!


Umm, I'm not sure if congratulations or condolences are in order for shattering my comfy little world of illusions i/we've been living in.

This kind of experience is life-changing, earth-shattering, and kinda reminds me of magic theatre in Herman Hesse's steppenwolf:

"Magic Theatre - For Madmen Only - Price of Admission - Your Mind"

Havent touched my GVG since then, just thinking about hyperspace again gives me the shivers and sweaty palms.. Too bad, looks as if my hefty stash of changa and enhanced herb will remain unsmoked for quite some time. if not eternity.

Beware my beloved boys and girls, This is not a game to play.

I have very extensive psychedelic experience, many crazy trips under my belt (its easier to name the psychedelic I _havent_ tried), but nothing really prepares you for this.

If you are fearless explorer like myself, sometime universe gives you more then you bargained for, and there is the price one has to pay for a peek behind the veil in the magic theatre.

So far though I feel as if my experiences in the DMT world have been more a blessing and less of a curse. One has to sometimes eat spinach and bitter medicine to grow and flower Smile

The very difficult trips are most beneficial in the end, yet they command long integration periods, made easier by extending love and compassion to all living creatures. Love

May your visits to the magic theatre be fruitful and bountiful my dear brothers and sisters!
May all beings be happy!
 
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#12 Posted : 6/15/2015 11:00:29 PM

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avalokektsvara wrote:
I am the eye with which the universe beholds itself.


Very well said.
"Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be a spirit of tolerance in the entire population." -Albert Einstein


I'm not a big fan of SWIM. I mean, I've never met the guy, but any time I hear about him, he's doing something sketchy.
 
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#13 Posted : 6/15/2015 11:10:20 PM

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BongWizard wrote:
Sounds like you've got the same wild man attitude I do Big grin "only 150 mics each?? Better give me 5 of em!!" Sound familiar? Laughing


In consensus reality I am a passionate skydiver, and I have found that for me psychedelics are like a skydive - either you jump out full on, or you dont jump at all.

Bhagavad Gita said it wonderfully: "Plunge into the heat of battle, and keep your heart at the lotus feet of the Lord."

The most beneficial voyages are the ones where I travel deep and face the music - and for that you need sufficient dosages. Don't quite like the concept of "heroic dose" as it encourages braggadocio and foolishness, which is always a wrong kinda of attitude towards psychedelics.
One thing psychedelics taught me is humility and respect is always the right attitude.

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Ahhhh, the universal consciousness. DMT and LSD is good for that (my personal favourite combo). What I take from this kind of experience is that we are the consciousness of the universe. Without us to experience and appreciate its wonder and beauty, it could not exist as it does.

Shpongle - divine moments of truth Smile

DMT, DMT
Do dee do DMT
LSD do DMT
LSD do DMT
I love everybody
Do de do love
Do da da de

Big grin Thumbs up

[quote]The anthropic principle suggests that, if we wish to answer the question of why the universe exists as it does, then we must consider that the answer must be that it has qualities which encourage intelligent beings to arise who are capable of asking the question.

So while we may or may not all be one consciousness, we are all bound to the universe so we can experience and appreciate it thus allowing it to exist in the beautifully imperfect perfection that it does.


The more experience I have with psychedelics of all kinds, the more sense the anthropic principle makes. Why this divine comedy?

Why would atoms arrange themselves in such a way that they are suddenly able to ponder themselves?

And some atoms arrange themselves in such a way that they are able to smoalk DMT and ponder much more then themselves.

Oh what a wonderful divine mystery this all is. Love
May all beings be happy!
 
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#14 Posted : 6/15/2015 11:26:51 PM

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Avalokiteśvara wrote:
In consensus reality I am a passionate skydiver, and I have found that for me psychedelics are like a skydive - either you jump out full on, or you dont jump at all.


I too have skydived and I agree completely with the above statement. Thumbs up
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#15 Posted : 6/15/2015 11:43:13 PM

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DmnStr8 wrote:
Avalokiteśvara wrote:
In consensus reality I am a passionate skydiver, and I have found that for me psychedelics are like a skydive - either you jump out full on, or you dont jump at all.


I too have skydived and I agree completely with the above statement. Thumbs up


Yes skydiving is also quite binary, you either jump or you don't Twisted Evil

but there is nothing like it, highly recommended to everyone (at least once in your lifetime!)

I have found that skydiving gives one a psychological stamina and stress endurance, so my skydiving experience came in handy when dealing with hard and challenging psychedelic trips.

regardless of that I still have pre(dmt)-flight jitters, and my hands shake, heart beating fast, sweaty palms, so no immunity there!

In all honesty, I am usually more jittery before blasting off to hyperspace, then jumping out of an airplane or a helicopter! go figure..
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#16 Posted : 6/16/2015 3:23:05 AM

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Sometimes I wish I did not also have that same luxury of forgetfulness. I've had very similar experiences on many occasions. On one, the true nature of the universe was revealed to me (exactly as you have described, it was earth-shattering), as I came back to this reality I remember thinking "good thing I won't remember this very much…". I was right.

Only after 200+ experiences and many hypotheses later have I been able to piece things together in a coherent manner. You seem to have gotten it right all in one go, hence the congratulations. One of the best descriptions I've read!

That knowledge doesn't really change anything. Just enjoy this reality, have good experiences, love, and help other living things along their own ways. Once you see how we are all connected, love and compassion seem like common sense.
 
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Forgetfulness is double edged sword for me. Some i am glad to forget and some i would love to remember but over all in retrospect i wouldn't change a single thing it has given me so much.Thumbs up
Buddy i think we all know how you felt/feel. All of us that had this experience know how utterly self illusion shattering and life changing it is. I had to take almost year and half brake when it happened to me for the first time.
I had really rough integration during that period. Floating from total denial to utter and complete amazement. Eventually time did it's thing and i was able to integrate and entertain the idea to dive in again just to have even deeper interacting and more revealing experience.Stop Goes to show that you can't put limits on it.
Great post and i am glad we have another one that has experienced this.Thumbs up
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^ Couldn't agree more, great thread and many wise insights!
 
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#19 Posted : 6/23/2015 10:32:45 PM
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Avalokiteśvara wrote:


you are either one or a zero. nothing more. nothing less. it has always been like that. it is and always will be.



Wow, I've just realised the significance/symbolism between the computer binary code zero/one and spiritual concept infinty/nothinness. Weird to think our entire technological structure is built on that principle.

Incredible trip report. Scary though. And so frequently reported that I'd imagine it's somewhat true. Some kind of weird relationship between infinity/nothing.
 
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#20 Posted : 6/23/2015 11:22:29 PM
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The true hell is being limited. Being limited would mean to be completely predictable - where all we could to is to try forget this fact.

But I think we are not. At least if time/quantization really is an illusion.

Yesterday I once again experienced binary existence on n2o+weed (common theme with that). Where all there is is changing from zero to one and back and memory/review of past states. Without memory there could not be complex situations. And there has to be a quantization of time like cycles on a processor to count the zero and ones and build a determined situation with them.

Would our perception ultimately be quantized, that would mean we would only ever be able to perceive a certain, finite amount of states.

But this may be just one perspective on the whole thing. Maybe this whole (t)error occurs if we try to define existence as one particular thing - nothingness OR infinity. Then we experience quantization and therefore being limited.

But the experience of the limitless can by definition never be put into words or any other means of defining anything.
 
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