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Childlike
#1 Posted : 2/27/2015 8:54:51 PM

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Hi all,

I am back form the Jungle. I had the most amazing experience deep in the Peruvian Jungle drinking Ayahuasca 4 times in 7 days, at night, surrounded by the noises of nature, with a Shaman, chanting Icaros all night.

I am going to tell you straight what I experienced, without filter or judgement. I am still processing this.

My first session was most spectacular: Ayahuasca came over me like a warm wave, like entering a comfortable bathtub. Immediately I was communicating with beings that told me they were our creators. They told me that they created us on earth and had to move on. But they are always there for us. And I felt like I had always known this, that I had forgotten, but that this is of course the truth deep down. I felt like they were our dear creators, I felt like they were our beloved parents. I asked them why we have all this suffering on earth and they said they were sorry, they made a mistake, they had underestimated the development of the ego. I realized: would a perfect God create this world with this misery? And I realized that no, a perfect God wouldn't, only imperfect creators, who are more advanced than humanity. I experienced that our creators were imperfect, very good-meaning beings.

They told me what the goal of my life is: Just enjoy it! Walk the earth, see all countries, get to know people all over, have fun with them! The business world (that I work in) is a joke, a waste of time, get out of it! Stay with your girlfriend (I was in doubt). Treat your girl like a princess, make her happy every day! The communication was so clear, I was amazed.

I also remembered some scenes from my early childhood, scenes where I decided that life would not be as awesome as I though because something bad had happened, i.e my parents had divorced. I had decided that I am not as special as I thought because why would something like this happen to a special child. I remembered this and felt my pain as a small child. I saw several of these scenes during my first session.

My second session was more physically active: After about one hour I felt like moving and went outside the ceremony room and was standing outside in nature. The trees looked so alive, all the sounds, the leafs were their communication devices, it was fascinating. To me it felt like this session was there to build my confidence to go outside, explore the world, follow my curiosity, be courageous etc. Other episodes of this session were states of pure being and peace. A meditative state in which one accepts everything as it is, watches as the unmoved observer and is in peace with everything. A beautiful calmness for hours.

The third session was a lot of inner work. I worked through several issues like perfectionism, the realization that I need to show myself more love and a few other things I have now forgotten (this happens on Ayahuasca and DMT as most of you will know). I was pretty much super-tired after this session and really needed to sleep during the day.

My fourth session was interesting. I was a bit nervous before it, not sure for which reason. This time the effects were the strongest of all my sessions. While I was at least partly aware and had at least some distance to what I was experiencing in my previous sessions, the Ayahuasca totally took control this time and I was totally immersed in the experience without knowing that I had taken Ayahuasca. Meaning I did not know I was under the influence, I thought was is happening is reality. And I was in a dark reality, deep in a dark forest with scary, loud noises, terrifying images etc. I was utterly scared, my hands started shaking heavily, any thought I was trying to think to make things better back-fired and made things even worse. I was in a state of total panic. Suddenly, when I hit my breaking point a clear voice in my head said in a clear and calm tone: "Everything is always ok". Immediately, all terror, all fear fell away and I was in a totally calm state. But also in a state of positive shock and amazement. The rest of the trip, 3-4 more hours, were completely calm and relaxed.

To this day I wonder if this was a "higher self" speaking to me or if it was an emergency mechanism within myself that kicked in when I couldn't take the panic anymore, reassuring myself that everything is ok. I would like to clarify that "Everything is always ok" was not meant in a "calm down, everything is going to be ok" way, but rather as the realization, that behind or underneath everything that happens, there is always the foundation of everlasting peace and is-ness. Being aware of this neutralizes every negativity that happens on more superficial layers.



As you can imagine this trip was worth traveling to Peru. I am still very much working and processing the information. Have we really been created the way I experienced it? What was that voice telling me everything is always ok at my darkest hour? I can tell you Ayahuasca tastes pretty horrible, but I would do it again and again. Please feel free to comment, talk about your experiences and let me know what you think of what I have experienced.

Much love,
Childlike
 

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#2 Posted : 2/27/2015 9:31:01 PM

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Enjoyed reading your experience quite a bit, thanks for sharing. Where in Peru did you go, and to which shaman?
 
Childlike
#3 Posted : 2/27/2015 9:34:15 PM

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Thanks. I went to Iquitos. the retreat I chose is called Kapitari, the shaman is called Don Lucho. I recommend Kapitari. If you have loads of money Blue Morpho is a very good option too.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/28/2015 12:39:11 AM
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Hi, a friend of mine went to the Maya Ayahuasca Retreat which is in Iquitos, she was super happy about the experience and i was thinking about going myself.
Actually I'm still considering any alternative retreat as I didn't really understand the difference between one and the other. I never tried an Ayahuasca ritual and for this reason for me is hard to judge by the pictures and infos that people post online...

I'm a bit scared about the jungle, and I would like also to know if this wilderness comes with some dangers that I must be aware of...

Would be really nice if someone can give me some advice about this, I suffer of anxiety and panic attacks and i would like to have this experience to cure these diseases, but I don't feel like I have enough infos by now...

Thanks in advance to everybody for your advice!
 
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#5 Posted : 2/28/2015 1:55:58 AM

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[quote=Childlike]Hi all,


The trees looked so alive, all the sounds, the leafs were their communication devices, it was fascinating.



I can relate to the tree leaves talking!

Once in Arizona... i was triping on ..[T peruvianus cactus].. [mescaline] ..while rideing my bike..
I could see the mountain range where the apache cheif Cochece and his tribe batteled the US calvary and the mexican army...

They would hide among the tall boulders and watch the soldiers ride below searching for them..

It was called the dragoon mountain range...

This mountain range was only 12 miles to the east of me and i was tripping hard and bicycling for miles..

At one [point i looked towards the high mountains to a spot where they lived and
[on mescaline]..everything looked alive to me ..the dry grass the rocks .. everything i looked at apeared to be alive!

Then a line of trees behind me started talking ...it sounded like thousands of wispering voices...
The voices were comming from the trees leaves as a gentle breeze blew through the leaves!

I asumed it was from the spirits of past indians who lived in the area ..
I would never have heard the voices without the medicine!

 
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#6 Posted : 2/28/2015 2:39:38 AM

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childlike thanks for posting that. Beautiful experiences. peace to you
 
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#7 Posted : 2/28/2015 5:48:21 AM

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Nice report on your experience in the jungle childlike, one day I might make it there, in the meantime I'll remain envious to all who get the chance Pleased
 
Childlike
#8 Posted : 2/28/2015 11:53:07 AM

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spiritnature wrote:

Actually I'm still considering any alternative retreat as I didn't really understand the difference between one and the other. I never tried an Ayahuasca ritual and for this reason for me is hard to judge by the pictures and infos that people post online...

I'm a bit scared about the jungle, and I would like also to know if this wilderness comes with some dangers that I must be aware of...

Would be really nice if someone can give me some advice about this, I suffer of anxiety and panic attacks and i would like to have this experience to cure these diseases, but I don't feel like I have enough infos by now...


Hey man,

what's important is to find a Shaman that you trust. For this it's best to do some research and find one that has a lot of experience (15+ years) and that you feel comfortable with. Don Lucho of Kapitari is definitely a good one, people in Iquitos very much respect him since he has been there since many many years.

No reason to be afraid of the jungle at all, it's very safe and a great experience.

For anxiety I would recommend to do meditation/relaxation sessions daily a few weeks before the retreat to help you have a great experience. In any case the phrase "there are no bad Ayahuasca trips" is true in my experience. Often the most difficult experiences are the most rewarding ones (because of their intensity, I will explain more below).

There are no guarantees that Aya can help with your anxiety, but it is worth a try and the experience will very probably benefit you in one way or the other anyway. I personally also have some problems with anxiety and I am not sure it helped me directly with it (it certainly did no harm either) but I learned very important things that will change my life.

The Aya experiences (and all psychedelics for that matter) have the power to change lives because the insights are communicated either so clearly or in such an intense way, that they stay with you. In my experience you are not typically changed from one day to the next, but you have had these experiences that stand out from other experiences because of the clarity/intensity and therefore you tend to follow and remember them much more than i.e. having read the same thing in a book. And sometimes these substances cause immediate changes, i.e. people stop smoking because they suddenly cannot stand the taste etc. These are the 2 ways that change happens in my (somewhat limited) experience.

I hear Mushrooms are pretty good for anxiety, and will try them in the next weeks. If anyone has experience with anxiety + mushrooms, please let me know!

Much love,
CL
 
spiritnature
#9 Posted : 3/2/2015 8:57:11 AM
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Childlike wrote:
spiritnature wrote:

Actually I'm still considering any alternative retreat as I didn't really understand the difference between one and the other. I never tried an Ayahuasca ritual and for this reason for me is hard to judge by the pictures and infos that people post online...

I'm a bit scared about the jungle, and I would like also to know if this wilderness comes with some dangers that I must be aware of...

Would be really nice if someone can give me some advice about this, I suffer of anxiety and panic attacks and i would like to have this experience to cure these diseases, but I don't feel like I have enough infos by now...


I hear Mushrooms are pretty good for anxiety, and will try them in the next weeks. If anyone has experience with anxiety + mushrooms, please let me know!

Much love,
CL


Thanks, i heard that too, in fact I also red about people with problem of panic attacks who solved the problem with mushrooms or peyote in few sessions...

The jungle if not dangerous can be good as i'm afraid of the big crowd, so is going to let me feel at lease safe because there are only few people.

Thank you very much for your help, definitely good to find someone who offer his knowledge for me Smile
 
 
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