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Rob24550
#1 Posted : 2/20/2015 11:56:56 PM
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So I did my first extraction using Cyb's tek with Acacia Confusa and it went mostly well. I wound up with a small about of brownish crystals in one pan (looked like what I expected), and a brown gooey substance in the other three pans. Guessing that I was not as exact in my extraction as I should have been.

In all my post research I have read I figured both were ok to use.

So I did it twice using an oil pipe, both the goo and the crystals. Pretty sure I did that correctly with three large hits, held it in, etc.

On the third hit both times (with the brown goo, as with the crystals) I entered a weird and uncomfortable state. I became hot and sweaty and had some fairly strong visuals, but no hyperspace.

The trip was definitely not what I would consider a positive one. The vibe was distinctly negatively tinged, and was "Please make this stop" verses "please don't let this end" I entered an odd state where there were strong fractual visuals and it felt very quiet, like I was stuck in a vacuum. This lasted about 10 minutes or so.

So can anyone offer an opinion as to whether they think that.

a) My extraction was dirty, leading to a bad experience
b) I was in the wrong mental state when I tried it
c) I did not do enough
d) I did too much
e) Some other reason

I am dedicated to doing this right, as I have researched this for a long time before trying to extract, but I am unsure if I want to continue if it's going to just be more of the same. I am not concerned with having a strong trip, and would like to get to hyperspace, but I must be doing something wrong.

Any opinion is welcome and appreciated.

Thanks
 

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OneStepBeyond
#2 Posted : 2/21/2015 3:34:53 AM

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I doubt it was because of a), it sounds like c) was a factor but it could be that it wasn't administered efficiently and some was wasted so be careful just upping the dose. You don't specify any quantities. It sounds like a low dose experience and many people seem to find that uncomfortable.

My gut feeling though, is that it was mostly b).
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#3 Posted : 2/21/2015 11:13:32 AM

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I remember early on I had a strong experience where I felt like I got stuck in a vacuum, It was horrible and it was because I smoked too much too soon, there's a lot to learn about letting go and submitting to the experience, it helps to focus your mind as you would in meditation. I recommend starting with low doses and find a dose which is comfortable and you enjoy and then allow the experiences to guide you to your eventual breakthrough.
 
Rob24550
#4 Posted : 2/23/2015 3:19:52 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Well received.

This path is not for the feint of heart that's for sure. But I have had my mushies show me things lately that boggle and defy all explanation, so I shall continue to explore.

I'll keep you posted and thanks again....

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#5 Posted : 2/23/2015 3:24:38 PM
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BTW - dose was about 60 mg. I put 30 in, but then doubled it at the last minute. So that may be most of the culprit, along with possibly just the wrong mindset.

I'm guessing qty. over technique does not work so well...

I will screw up my courage again and give it another try.
 
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#6 Posted : 2/23/2015 5:00:54 PM

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Hi im pretty new to the spice too and had similar experiences at first. Id say its a mix
of the wrong mindset and not vaporising properly especially with 60mg that should be
more than enough i started with less than half that amount in a bong and didnt really
get to hyperspace but the first time i tried "the machine" i was almost instantly blasted
out of/into my mind. Since then ive been a bit scared of the spice and the fears definatley
affected my trips so i can say that getting in the right mindset of no fear and the desire
to experience should help
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Rob24550
#7 Posted : 2/23/2015 10:08:39 PM
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Thanks my friend. Good to know it's not just me.

But I swear this stuff is intimidating...lol. I know it can't hurt ya (much) but during that 10 minutes I thought I had made a very big mistake...haha

Ever forward though...I'll trust in my perseverance....
 
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#8 Posted : 2/23/2015 11:34:02 PM
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OneStepBeyond wrote:


My gut feeling though, is that it was mostly b).



This can impact the intention of dreaming like you would not believe. A simple distraction can keep one tied to the earth or make one feel uncomfortable during the experience.
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