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DayDreamer91
#1 Posted : 2/21/2015 10:25:17 PM
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Hello everyone,
I have always wanted to try some psychedelic drugs and now that i have the chance and independance for it i am a bit skeptical about it.

The reason is that i'm afraid it might affect me in some negative ways especially that :
i've just got a new job and i must always be in a sane way
i'm a bit paranoid just by myself(that kind of a person that is warned not to try psychoactive drugs)
i have no previous experiences ,except booz.

What would you advice me to do,because i feel like that's one of the things i really want to do.
 

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#2 Posted : 2/21/2015 10:45:48 PM

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respect the experience. steer clear until you think you are ready.

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#3 Posted : 2/21/2015 11:07:31 PM
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If it's about being ready then i don't think i am.

Actually i was hoping that through this experience i could evolve myself and be ready for life,may be get that satisfaction of knowing myself as i feel so bored.

I think of it as a solution to open doors, but still i know that what lies beyond there could be the bitter shocking truth that i'm not ready for.

 
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#4 Posted : 2/22/2015 12:21:01 AM

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Feel your body. Sit down and ask your body, the plants, the universe if it's time to smoke and u will get a clear answer. Listen to that
 
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#5 Posted : 2/22/2015 7:14:37 AM

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The main thing about most psychoactive drugs is that if you are nervous/paranoid and expecting to have a bad experience, this will almost guarantee that you will have a bad experience. Your subconscious mind takes control and if you've got nervous/paranoid/scary emotions going on in the background of your psyche, they will tend to come through into your trip.

I would recommend waiting until you are no longer feeling so nervous. I have a feeling you won't want to wait though, so if you do really want to push forward and do it anyway, read up on "set and setting" for some tips on stacking the odds in your favor, and most importantly, start small before working your way up. Try 10mg to start.
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#6 Posted : 2/22/2015 7:47:09 AM

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Welcome to Nexus my friend,

from the title it seems that you are not ready for it yet. No need to rush. You will know exactly when the right time comes. Till then you can read all about spice, read about extraction, smoking techniques, health and safety, reports from other users. This way you will be perfectly ready when the time comes.

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#7 Posted : 2/22/2015 8:00:54 AM
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I'm really enjoying reading this thread in particular.
Very happy
 
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#8 Posted : 2/22/2015 10:25:58 AM

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Only you can decide whether or not you should or shouldn't.
Its rare that I meet or know some one who I think would get on well with spice.
The whole business is profound and a lot to take on.
Good luck with whatever path you choose.
 
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#9 Posted : 2/22/2015 12:04:05 PM
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I dissagree .

You shouldnt force yourself to do anything .

NOONE is ever ready for a full DMT hit . If you are not at least a little aprehensive you are not normal and maybe heading for danger . One needs to have respect for it .

Does your body want or can it acept what your ego wants ? Its not like decideing to eat a strawberry ice instead of a rasberry ice .

DONT read other peoples reports or you can end up haveing their trip . Read about set and setting and about what a sitter is . Read about what to do in an emergency ......... wich VERY RARELY happen ...... and when iut does happen its mostly to unprepared and / or egoistic people that have decided to do DMT without sensible research and listening to their bodys .

HAVE PATIENCE ....... and learn to know yourself . Learning to meditate is a GOOD thing to help to understand oneself and ones mind . It can also help if one needs to be calm .

You say boredom . What boredom and why ?

Whatever remember that its a trip . It isnt real and it will end after a few hours .

Try to find experienced ....... NON DOGMATIC and NOT ESO ...... people to do it with . DONT DO IT ON YOUR OWN .

I was lucky enough to have been introduced to cannabis , LSD , mushrooms and DMT without haveing my mind poluted with other inexperienced / confused / imature / manipulative peoples " advice " . I was given it by older trusted people that i knew didnt want to influence me or score ego points . They gave it me and i took it . Now i have my own trips and not repeats of other peoples trips .
I am autism spectum ........ please dont burn me at the stake for being honest .
 
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#10 Posted : 2/22/2015 1:38:26 PM

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GOD wrote:

I was lucky enough to have been introduced to cannabis , LSD , mushrooms and DMT without haveing my mind poluted with other inexperienced / confused / imature / manipulative peoples " advice " . I was given it by older trusted people that i knew didnt want to influence me or score ego points . They gave it me and i took it . Now i have my own trips and not repeats of other peoples trips .


Who do you think are all the members above trying to help the guy ? You speak of people here like those "inexperienced / confused / imature / manipulative people" you mentioned.

Don't you think that people here could have enough experience to give advise ?

DayDreamer91 came here to ask for advise and in my opinion all the advise given above was a result of nexus members experience and maturity.

And nobody here is forcing the guy to take it its the other way around.
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#11 Posted : 2/22/2015 3:20:26 PM
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If you have never experienced more "tame" psychedelics, I don't recommend using magic for your first go. It can be very profound and honestly, if you are asking this question you are likely not prepared.



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#12 Posted : 2/22/2015 3:35:58 PM

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There is a lot of good advice for you here potential first timer. Noone has mentioned finding a sitter though. I could see some of these pieces of advice, though all good, chaotically flowing through your brain. For instance, trying to determine if your having a said emergency during a peak.

I suggest in addition to the advice given, that once you are ready, to find a fellow intrepid explorer with at least some exp to be there with you.
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#13 Posted : 2/22/2015 3:39:29 PM
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The reason is that i'm afraid it might affect me in some negative ways

Then it will.. Rests on you..

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i'm a bit paranoid just by myself(that kind of a person that is warned not to try psychoactive drugs)i have no previous experiences ,except booz.

Maybe these substances aren't for you then?

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What would you advice me to do,because i feel like that's one of the things i really want to do.

Do your research. Read alot. Evaluate the pros and cons based on your life, then proceed if necessary.

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If it's about being ready then i don't think i am.

Then your not..

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Actually i was hoping that through this experience i could evolve myself and be ready for life,may be get that satisfaction of knowing myself as i feel so bored.

Boredom... heh ..id reevaluate your reasoning before proceeding, otherwise there's a good chance your going to be barking up the wrong tree.

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I think of it as a solution to open doors, but still i know that what lies beyond there could be the bitter shocking truth that i'm not ready for.

Solution? Far from it.. The solution is contingent upon you, not the substance. And if you feel your not ready ...then your not ready..
 
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#14 Posted : 2/22/2015 3:51:59 PM

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I think of it as a solution to open doors, but still i know that what lies beyond there could be the bitter shocking truth that i'm not ready for.

Solution? Far from it.. The solution is contingent upon you, not the substance. And if you feel your not ready ...then your not ready..

Yes, very true. It will not give or show you the solution. It might show you the problem, if you're willing to look. Knowing what the problem is, is the first step to getting to the solution. But you have to walk the walk yourself. All the way.
 
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#15 Posted : 2/22/2015 9:41:47 PM

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smokerx wrote:
GOD wrote:

I was lucky enough to have been introduced to cannabis , LSD , mushrooms and DMT without haveing my mind poluted with other inexperienced / confused / imature / manipulative peoples " advice " . I was given it by older trusted people that i knew didnt want to influence me or score ego points . They gave it me and i took it . Now i have my own trips and not repeats of other peoples trips .


Who do you think are all the members above trying to help the guy ? You speak of people here like those "inexperienced / confused / imature / manipulative people" you mentioned.

Don't you think that people here could have enough experience to give advise ?

DayDreamer91 came here to ask for advise and in my opinion all the advise given above was a result of nexus members experience and maturity.

And nobody here is forcing the guy to take it its the other way around.

What smokerx said but in capitals.
I don't believe you can have some one else's trip. I could be wrong but its to real and personal to have and experience just because you read that trip report imo.
 
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#16 Posted : 2/24/2015 10:36:19 PM
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Hello again friends,
Thanks for the advices , i have them all noted ,just in case Big grin

i think it's important to say what i am expecting of the experience:

1.I know it can't be the solution but may be it could help me just see the reality of things, as i happen to be a very skeptical and self-contradictory person, i have faith in nothing,so believing in something is a start.

As i experienced sometimes with smoking weed it's kind of a calming and truth knowing drug, no lies or illusions in it,you feel like seeing things clear,and when it comes to psychedelcis i expect much more like that.
so is it that honest of a high like weed?

2.also when i spoke about boredom that means i expect from the experience spiritual reboost of energy , and strenght, as i feel very much stress in my life.

I also should explain why i said i don't think i'm ready:

1.i just got a new job, and i don't want it to affect my daily life especially that it's very likely
that i have a bad trip because :

2.I'm kinda going though a very skeptical moment in my life,so by loosing faith in me and even in my spirtuality that i once had,that is a reason to have a bad trip no? not that i dont have the knowledge about spirituality but as you know that knowledge must become a nature in you,and i don't think it is
 
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#17 Posted : 3/5/2015 1:32:45 PM

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Agree totally with these responses, pyschedelics especially the longer lasting ones are all about being in the right frame of mind. even if you're in the right frame of mind 'doing it right' is very important, for example i was in the right frame of mind but took an obscene amount of mushrooms one time and things went horribly wrong.

I'm yet to try DMT too, but I'm planning on doing very shortly and I'm looking forward to it. its impossible to predict how any experience will go, but being in the right frame of mind and not abusing it are key to enjoying it and getting the best out of it.
 
 
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