The Trip Treatment

Continuing the trend of increased mainstream media attention to the use of and research into psychedelics.

Interesting.



Is there any way to get a hand on said "flight instructions"?

Just finished reading this article. I must say it was one of the best I have read on the subject. The only thing missig in my opinion was Strassman's experiment.

Great read!

" The only thing missig in my opinion was Strassman's experiment. "

Probably because if they has mentioned his name it would be the kiss of death for the article and the subject especialy for serious people , researchers and experts ?

How do you figure? Strassman's experiment followed strict scientific guidelines. I think the reason might be that it wasn't focusing on medical treatment with dmt and in that aspect I can follow the exclusion.

GREAT!!! Article, the best I have ever seen in the mainstream press.

This is a big topic so it may be easy to criticize, so I restrain.

I like that it connected a fear of yoga and meditation of the 60's and before. We quickly forget how bad it has been.

" Strassman's experiment followed strict scientific guidelines. "

Wich experiment was that please ? He's famous for a fantasy book called " The spirit molecule " wich is at best bad science . There is a very diplomatic revue of it here ---- > http://www.erowid.org/li.../review/review.php?p=318

?...That's a review of a documentary by Mitch Schultz...

I'm certainly not Strassman's biggest fan, for various reasons... but his research with DMT did begin to open the door in some ways to above ground psychedelic research again. Was it revolutionary in itself? Obviously no...All he did was give people DMT, record a few parameters, and record their experiences. We do similar things all the time . Was there speculation in the book? Yeah...but so what? It was a book. Laying all blame on him for the many people who misinterpreted theory as solid fact and spread the rumors seems silly.

I think Elpo was curious what your OWN issues are with that study, that you think a mention of would have be the "kiss of death" for the article? Not some link about someone else's thoughts on the movie.

Strassman did a scientific experiment wherein he measured simple things like heart rate and blood pressure of human volunteers after controlled administration of DMT. That in itself was not very spectacular and the experiment made no note of the subjective effects of DMT to the volunteers. It was a simple but scientifically correct experiment.

What was spectacular, was the fact that Strassman got to do a scientific experiment with DMT and human volunteers after such a long time of total scientific prohibition in that area.


You are confusing things and blaming your confusion onto others. The book is not the experiment. If you read the book you would know.

Strassman does not claim that his book is science, you are doing that and then you go on to blame Strassman for your claims. It makes no sense.

" That's a review of a documentary by Mitch Schultz "

That refers to and contains a critic of Strassmans book .

" Laying all blame on him for the many people who misinterpreted theory as solid fact and spread the rumors seems silly. "

Is the book sold as a novel or light entertainment or as a documenty = fact . Its more like a docu soap .


" I think Elpo was curious what your OWN issues are with that study, that you think a mention of would have be the "kiss of death" for the article? "

There is a saying " You dont have to keep reinventing the wheel " . It means in this case that when something has been revued , discussed and show to be crap years ago we dont have to keep proveing it to people who didnt undestand it .

I am not going to read it again . I did two revues of it on psychonaut years ago . Maybe they are still there .

It would have been the kiss of death because that news paper is a serious news paper . The article was a serious article and ............ can you or anyone show me peer revues or a positive revue of the spirit molecule from any expert in the subject please ?

Anyone who gets passed the first word of the title without noticing that its crap because there is no spirit and consciousness isnt A molecule probably hasnt got the intelligence to understand the book .

His book is full of speculation and he isnt tying to find something out hes trying to prove something . He is not neutral . Calling DMT ' The GOD molecule " shows that . There is no GOD .

Hee is another very good manered revue ---- > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Strassman

I can't quote, don't remember where I read it, but Strassman said:
- we must accept that there are different "realities. Referring to DMT.

I couldn't believe that any scientific would say such a nonsense, of not being able to define reality.

Why the antagonism? You judge potential readers of his book for lack of intelligence yet your post is full of spelling errors...you say "his book is full of speculation", yet you speculate on the existence of spirit and god.

I'm not trying to criticize you. I'm just saying people might be more receptive to your post if you worded it more mindfully.

Different people may interpret the book in different ways, and just because some of those ways might contrast with your point of view, it doesn't make them wrong.

Remember also to consider all the positive outcomes of his book, the people it inspired, the DMT-related knowledge, research, and attention that came of it.

This article was hands down the most comprehensive coverage of psychedelics I've seen in mainstream press. I was surprised and impressed.

It's exciting to watch the current trend of psychedelic research as it unfolds, I have very high hopes for the future!

For how long will we go on about this pineal gland hypothesis which Strassman clearly stated to be just that, a hypothesis. One which after years has still not been disproved as far as I know.

What I meant to say was that Strassman has had the courage to do this experiment in de mid-nineties after decades of nothingness. The fact that he set up the experiment to measure heart rates and blood pressure was because that would've been the only way to have permission to do the experiment (as also stated by him).

And the fact that afterwards he granted so much attention to the trip reports in my opinion shows maturity, bravery and guts. Other scientists might have just seen it as simple unimportant trickeries of the mind. He tried to go further and see it as a phenomenology that needs to be studied.

I think his experiment with all the flaws and speculations is a milepost in psychedelic research, hence my question about the OP's article, which by the way I think is a great article.