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OneStepBeyond
#1 Posted : 1/17/2015 11:04:51 PM

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I thought I'd share my first experience with salvia here for anyone who's interested. I suppose it should be in the salvia forum but I don't have access to that section. It was some time ago now, but being my first time experiencing anything of that magnitude, it really left an impression on me.

I had a gram of 20x and I was in my living room with my girlfriend, she was sober. I'd read a number of trip reports and researched the substance pretty extensively so I had some idea of what to expect. I smoked the salvia from a small bong with a torch lighter. I wasn't sure how potent the material was so I started with a VERY small amount (basically one little flake of dried leaf) to work my way up.

My first attempt, tiny amount, held the smoke for about 30-40 seconds. Very strange feeling. I felt something subtly pulling me from my left. Colors were noticeably brighter, things in my vision had a kind of pulsating quality. I decided to do a little more.

Second attempt. About the same amount as the first. It had only been a couple of minutes so I thought the dose might be cumulative to what I'd already done. Laid back on the couch and held my breath. I lost track of time for a second and when I came back, I felt the presence of someone /something telling me basically "all right, let's go then..." and suggesting that I follow them (to "salvia space" ). There were no words spoken though and I didn't get a good look at them. It was mostly just like flashes in my mind. I got the impression that the way to salvia space was to focus my attention on something in my peripheral vision to the left. I had a strong desire to investigate but the surprise of encountering the entity seemed to pull me out of the right frame of mind. I kept looking back to my left and expecting to see something there, I could feel it, but there was nothing. I started to return to a more baseline state that was similar to my first attempt but a little more intense.

At this point I was extremely curious about exploring this new place that I couldn't quite find and I was feeling a little more confident that I could handle it due to my previous two attempts. I loaded up about double what I'd originally used which was still just a couple of flakes, but this was still only about 5 minutes or so after my first inhalation of salvia. I felt I was ready for whatever was coming. There seemed to be a lot more smoke this time, maybe there was more extract in that bit of leaf material, but I inhaled it all, held my breath and laid back.

I had the same loss of time, I was trying to count to 30 while I held my breath but past some point this stopped happening. I "came back" in a strange state. I felt a spinning sensation, but it was like I was in some sort of trap where it felt like I was falling and my reflex was to keep turning to the side, but I couldn't stop the feeling of falling or recover my equilibrium so I just kept spinning. I had the impression that there were entities around me of a higher intelligence that found it amusing that they'd so easily tricked my primitive brain with this simple trap. This went on for a while and it wasn't terribly pleasant. Eventually it seemed to stop.

I then have some memory of hearing very loud squeaking type sounds like what you would hear if you rubbed your hands across the surface of a balloon or a beach ball. I still couldn't see anything the the "real" world. All I could see were bright primary colors forming various shapes that occupied my entire field of vision. It felt very "cartoony" and I can't stress enough how BIZARRE the feeling was. I was starting to remember at this point that I'd taken a drug and these were the effects. It wasn't really so bad, but after the spinning and the not so seemingly friendly entities, I was feeling ready to return to my body.

At this point I started gradually coming back. I had the feeling of being stuck between two worlds and I would move towards one and then back. This was the most interesting part of the experience for me because it was the first time that I had the slightest bit of control over what was happening. On the way up I was either blasted so quickly into the other dimension that there was no transition, or there as a transition and I just don't have any memory of it. The way back down was less overwhelming, I had more ability to process what I was seeing and I felt more comfortable.

In the salvia space, I'd see random images and strange sounds, and I'd look into the "real" world, and I'd see my girlfriend's face. That was about all I was able to get, and it was multiplied hundreds of times across my field of vision, kind of like when you look through one of those kaleidoscope type things with the reflective prisms inside, like insect vision. I would focus on her face and it would bring me back to reality, then I could feel the salvia pull me back. This went on for a little while, but it was fading. Reality became more solid and I started being able to talk to my girlfriend a bit.

Things started to become increasingly normal and soon I was left with only the more intense colors and bizarre feeling that I'd experienced in my earlier, sub breakthrough experiences. This lasted for probably another 20 minutes. I was still sitting on the couch, but my girlfriend informed me that I'd been moving around and I'd crawled on my hands and knees down the hallway. She said she tried to stop me but I was just too strong and I kept going. But she called to me and convinced me to come back to the couch. She said I appeared to have the mental state of a baby or an animal. I didn't speak at all. I didn't remember any of this.

For a few days afterward I felt "haunted". I'll try to explain what that means but like many things involving salvia, it defies explanation. It felt like I had a heightened awareness of some type, there were remnants of the bizarre salvia feelings, and I frequently felt as though I was not alone and there was some being that as around me all the time. It wasn't unpleasant but it was a little strange. After a few days, this wore off. It was a long time after that before I tried salvia again, not that it was so terrible but it really threw me off. I'd done other hallucinogens before but salvia is definitely a class all its own.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today,
I wish, I wish he'd go away.
 

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#2 Posted : 1/18/2015 3:52:44 AM

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Nice report, and thanks for sharing. I haven't had the luxury of trying Salvia, it was legal here at one time but I procrastinate on things and it proved to be an error on my part to do so because now I can't get it, still if I get the chance or come across it I'll definitely give it a try. Smile
 
OneStepBeyond
#3 Posted : 1/18/2015 3:38:59 PM

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Thanks.

They've been talking about making it illegal here for a while now, but it's still available. The good thing is that it takes so little of it to have an effect and it stores indefinitely in a cool dark dry place, so it's not difficult to put together a lifetime supply.

It's not something I do very often and it's not as enjoyable as DMT for most people, but it really is unique and worth trying at least once. You really need to watch the dose though. I was being pretty careful in this experience and I still went to far. Never mind the clowns on Youtube doing huge bong rips of the powerful extractsShocked . It's funny how they always seem to have a bad time.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today,
I wish, I wish he'd go away.
 
junebug
#4 Posted : 1/26/2015 1:27:23 PM

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That's why I don't touch powerful extracts--just chewed/smoked leaves and (sometimes) 5x. They generally lead to a bad time and don't seem to give the wisdom the sage should, at least as far as my experience goes.
 
 
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