This method of salvia consumption sounds pretty good and more enjoyable than smoking it..
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Has anone here ever tryed salvia water infusion tea????


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Salvia Water Infusion topic posted Mon, May 14, 2007 - 6:14 AM by Monacnong Share/Save/Bookmark
Greetings,
I was wondering who here has tried a Salvia water infusion, I have read about it in several sources and am looking to stretch my areas of knowledge and experience in this direction, aside from quid and smoking. Has anyone had any experience with this? Is it a different experience entirely? Stronger or lighter than the aforementioned uses? What is your ideal method?
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Mon, May 14, 2007 - 4:57 PM
Water infusion? Salvinorin A is not water soluble, so I'm not sure how that work. Are you referring to the ethanol tinctures?
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Mon, May 14, 2007 - 5:47 PM
I drink a lot of salvia tea (if thats what water infusion means) and yes it does have a serious effect if its done the right way ... I will be writing a little piece about this later and posting it here when its finished
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Mon, May 14, 2007 - 7:41 PM
I'm curious about tinctures... I have yet to do the quid method. Smoking has been my only way to experience salvia so far. How is partaking with the tincture method, compared to smoking? Longer onset, or peak?
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Mon, May 14, 2007 - 8:57 PM
chycho - i look forward to hearing about it

colleen - tincture is longer, slower, and deeper. about 15 minute onset, then 45 minutes or so primary effects.
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Tue, May 15, 2007 - 8:17 PM
"about 15 minute onset, then 45 minutes or so primary effects."
Ah so Mr Toad's wild ride could becoame a real eternity then ;-)))
I've had some eternally long 5 minute experience wheich were WAY fucking weird. I am still procesing them 6 months later. I can't imaging a 45 minute journey! MUST TRY!!!
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Wed, May 16, 2007 - 5:32 AM
My own research was that a water 'infusion' was the same as soaking ground MG seeds -thaone can drink the water Salvia is soaked in after you also squeeze the liquid out of the once dried leaves..Now if the leaves are fresh the potency of the water is alot more--but please correct me if I am wrong ;-p ---I would be interested in Salvia tea though, do you simmer the leaves not allowing to boil? what is the process for this?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Wed, May 16, 2007 - 7:04 AM
I bring the water to a boil for about 10 minutes then put it on simmer from 1 to 2 hours .... I usually use about an ounce and about 10 cups of water ... after the tea is made, its been reduce to about 7 cups ... this lasts me about 5 to 7 days ... I sip the tea and whoosh the water in my mouth and then swallow ... the effects are that it kicks you up slightly to a higher/different consciousness when you are awake and when you are sleeping it gives you extremely vivid dreams that are at times divinations ... it detoxes you as well ... when you are awake you may have waking dreams

If you sip the tea during a mushroom trip then it becomes an instantaneous ride ... travel through tunnels of light and you get transported to certain realms while being totally conscious of the experience

The term I like to use about my experience with salvia tea is that.... "The tea is the key to salvia" ... it is amazing and powerful, but does require effort to work with

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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Wed, May 16, 2007 - 8:51 AM
Fantastic! I thank you for your time to enlighten me on this, I will go and try it, I enjoy expanding a single key to a multi-gateway of illumination. I must run to work but will report on my own SD experience from yesterday ---
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Wed, May 16, 2007 - 11:19 AM
Interesting.
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Thu, May 24, 2007 - 3:03 PM
Howdy chycho,
I am also a fan of salvia tea. I use a hand blender to agitate the leaves after a short boil, seems to free up the salvinorin nicely. I use the same sip, woosh and swallow and have had some intruiging adventures especially when very still.
Remarkable how sleep is affected following a session, very transparent membrane with theta wave delights.
Sometimes a couple of plain leaf puffs in addition to the tincture or tea base is rather delicious. Also with some cacti..wawweewoowoo.
Wondering about the detox angle, thats a new one to me.

Being still as Count Drac in his coffin is the trick to oral salvia journeys for me..

ciao, badrico
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Thu, May 24, 2007 - 3:26 PM
Totally agree … stillness with salvia tea is a major factor and WOW do the visuals kick in after a short period.

As for the detox … when I go into full blown salvia tea mode many foods and chemicals become putrid tasting. I stop drinking alcohol, eating processed sugar, and many other forms of quick snacks. I also find myself urinating a lot at the beginning of a serious outing and when doing so it feels like I am seriously getting rid of toxins. After a few days of this my body feels purer (just a feeling) and more powerful (this is tested)

As for mixing salvia tea … after eating mushrooms, sipping salvia is an amplifier like I’ve never had on fungi before. It forces you to close you eyes and the visuals are a few orders of magnitude more powerful then without salvia … amazing really … if you are able to hold on for the ride down the techno-color tunnel you end up in different realms, some with entities, some with landscapes, some just completely foreign.

One thing to note is, working with salvia tea takes effort. Working with salvia in general s very intense and requires full concentration and dedication but with salvia tea it becomes more life/habit changing then just smoking salvia. It is well worth the effort however.
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Fri, May 25, 2007 - 12:27 PM
Question here...what is the taste like and do you add any other herbs to your infusion to make it tastier? Since I can't smoke anything I would like to try the tea but am wondering about taste.
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Fri, May 25, 2007 - 9:52 PM
It tastes like poison at first.

I’ve made it with fresh mint and it still tastes the same

Made it with magic mushrooms and it still tastes the same

I’ve even made it with shake (ganja) and it’s still the same

The effects however are different. Obviously with mushrooms its something else but even with ganja and mint it shifts a little.

I’ve even mixed all the above … and it still tastes the same

It takes some getting use to put after a few days it doesn’t taste that bad and you actually desire it
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Fri, June 1, 2007 - 10:44 AM
hehe there must be like 20 threads on this topic in here.

also, you can add alcahol for a little soak to extract salvinorin, it will cook off when heating the tea.

hmm, i've never found the taste that bad...
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Wed, June 13, 2007 - 4:14 PM
ahhhh Chycho, you make that sound every bit as fun as my imagination assumes it is

I will be trying this tea...

dimitri's Mushroom Tea was great, and your Salvia Tea sounds equally astounding

seems like tea is the way to go....and on that note, has anyone tried bhang?....it's the Indian marijuana and milk tea (use milk cause THC isn't water-soluble) flavored with cardamom, cinnamon, and the like....I'm sure it's along the same lines....longer onset, but much more intense experience
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Re: Salvia Water Infusion Fri, July 29, 2011 - 7:20 AM
I'm new on this site and I noticed this particular topic. I'm interested in finding out how to make salvia tea properly...get back when you can.
Thanks, T
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I haven't tried a salvia tea, but once I ate about a gram of salvia leaf while in the middle of a full blown pharmahuasca experience. It was beyond intense. Words cannot even come close to describing what I experienced, but essentially my whole being was being dissolved by the light of the Tao. Was very painful emotionally (it brought up a lot of unconscious fears), but very cleansing.

It seems to have a catalysing effect with mushrooms and dmt. I've only tried it with dmt, but the other reports with mushrooms and salvia seem along similar lines.

Oral maoi seems to activate it, and then it can profoundly alter the course of another trip.

I plan on mixing the 2 again, but i'm going to be a bit more cautious next time. I had no idea that a gram of oral salvia leaf under those circumstances could do SO much.

Really interesting posts, thanks. I'ma gunna try...

A few observations:

The scientific literature generally asserts that tea is the least effective method of ingestion, which is why I haven't tried it so far.

Salvinorin is essentially insoluble in water, and concentrated in trichomes on the surface of the leaf, so not sure long boiling achieves anything. The Mazatecs make their tea as a kind of emulsion, rubbing the leaves in water, presumably to displace and suspend the salvinorin.

Ross Heaven (a writer I frequently find odd, and not in a good way) says the Mazatecs drink the tea at the beginning of a 14 day dieta, and failure to observe the dieta can send the drinker mad...!

Maybe we're both just struggling with monogamy (!) but D.M. Turner's account of salvia and DMT duelling it out in front of him has always made me wary of combining the two, and he's a writer I admire a lot.

Harmalas, however, seem to love salvia. They do not potentiate it per se, as salvinorin is obv not an amine, but they definitely ease entry to salviaspace and smooth out the ride.

I haven't tried this, but this was a nice write up involving sinicuichi too.

So many plants, so little time