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#1 Posted : 11/28/2014 12:43:08 PM

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I thought this was pretty funny when i saw it.
Searched for fumaric acid on amazon. On the bottom it shows items other people who bought fumaric also bought.
Lye, glass turkey baster, naphtha, heptane, & caapi vine powderLaughing
Kind of worries me as well. Prepaid gift cards can be used on amazon & throw away accounts as well, yet people still insist on buying all the ingredients & having a very sketchy transaction history.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/28/2014 5:04:18 PM

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Frankly, that's why I've never used Amazon, you know, for books n stuffWink.

I do believe that any local law enforcement (LLE) agency will be too bereft of funds to perform a full investigation, finding real estate addresses linked to ISPs (bcuz, come on, anyone dumb enough to order ALL their supplies from Amazon won't have the acumen to cover their digital footprint), but the feds have the resources and time to do so. IDK if any interstate trade laws are broken placing such an order and then using the items to produce an ILLEGAL substance, but i wouldn't doubt or be surprised if they come up with one. We are taking huge steps toward legalizing/legitamatizing entheogen use, but we can expect increased resistance with every success.

IDK if it's lack of common sense or what for someone to not want to do more than a few mouse clicks to find supplies. People really don't need to be do lazy. I posted a thread a long time ago that recounted how ALL extraction supplies can be purchased, with cash, from local retailers and I'm sure it would apply whether you live in Fargo or Frisco.
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#3 Posted : 11/28/2014 5:48:37 PM

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I think its a combination of a few things. Mostly lack of common sense & the fact that most people do not realize that a group of inconspicuous items on a credit card statement quickly turns into something real sketchy.

The other thing is that it seems like some people seem to never even think about the fact that they can find themselves in alot of trouble or how what they are doing will look to the average person in the event flags are raised & their door gets kicked in.

Dmt seems to be drawing in a younger & more naive crowd as it grows in popularity & alot of them have no prior experience with extractions or chemicals & are unaware of the correct way to go about procuring these things safely & discreetly.
 
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#4 Posted : 11/29/2014 3:56:55 AM

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To be honest, this has been dawning on me lately. And to be frank as well, there's been some, ahem localactivity lately that has helped that along. I'm seeing a certain level of, as you kindly put it, naivete that has put a fear in my head. I'm worried that something so powerful can be acheived so easily and materials sourced so readily.

Kids living with parents, eager people with 'straight' roommates, students in dorms. There are surely 'labs' (as they will be called ) in all these environments, waiting to become news stories, waiting to become ammunition to be loaded into the rusting guns of the drug war. We're winning that war, here in my state (proud I am), we just repealed the criminalization of cannabis, and although they lie quietly, licking their wounds in defeat, the drug-warriors are looking for a new angle. Saving the children from a personality altering drug that mimics psychosis, which can be injected, and that is made with highly explosive ingredients having the potential of leveling a city block that can be found in any kitchen or easily ordered over eBay or Amazon would be a great new offensive tool for them.

I'm just becoming aware of an issue that has surely been mulled over for some time, but to my awareness there has never been a similar situation. To all appearances, DMT is easy to make. The reality is so much deeper than what i fear many of the curious may be aware of, and that reality may come to hyper slap them . I just pray that we're not so slapped as well,in any kind of fallout.
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#5 Posted : 11/29/2014 1:28:33 PM

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null24 wrote:
To be honest, this has been dawning on me lately. And to be frank as well, there's been some, ahem localactivity lately that has helped that along. I'm seeing a certain level of, as you kindly put it, naivete that has put a fear in my head. I'm worried that something so powerful can be acheived so easily and materials sourced so readily.

Kids living with parents, eager people with 'straight' roommates, students in dorms. There are surely 'labs' (as they will be called ) in all these environments, waiting to become news stories, waiting to become ammunition to be loaded into the rusting guns of the drug war. We're winning that war, here in my state (proud I am), we just repealed the criminalization of cannabis, and although they lie quietly, licking their wounds in defeat, the drug-warriors are looking for a new angle. Saving the children from a personality altering drug that mimics psychosis, which can be injected, and that is made with highly explosive ingredients having the potential of leveling a city block that can be found in any kitchen or easily ordered over eBay or Amazon would be a great new offensive tool for them.

I'm just becoming aware of an issue that has surely been mulled over for some time, but to my awareness there has never been a similar situation. To all appearances, DMT is easy to make. The reality is so much deeper than what i fear many of the curious may be aware of, and that reality may come to hyper slap them . I just pray that we're not so slapped as well,in any kind of fallout.


I see a storm coming. The one thing i see preventing much of the trouble that comes with younger, irresponsible, naieve people dabbling in extraction is how powerful spice can be when not used with caution. I see alot of them trying it once or twice & not coming back for it again because it was just too intense.

The risk of being caught in the crossfire i think is fairly low if one is smart, careful, & remains conscious of whats going on in the area they live in ie. Don't extract if there seems to be methlabs busted twice a month in your neighborhood or the surrounding area.
 
 
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