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#1 Posted : 11/23/2014 4:54:16 AM
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After many unsuccessful or only slightly successful attempts at breaking through, I got tired of wasting spice on failed attempts. For this reason I decided to snort it. I knew that it would work and I would finally experience hyperspace in its entirety. And experience it I did. I weighed out 120 mg of spice, relaxed for several minutes and then snorted it. The first thing I noticed was the pain! it was so strong! I didn't let it bother me that much and I went and laid down in my bed.

I don't know exactly when it kicked in but all I know is that I was not prepared at all for what I was about to experience. As I recall this trip, I may get the order of events mixed up but it doesn't matter that much. The trip began out strong, I was in hyperspace but I don't remember what I saw in this first part. I only remember from partway through to the end. Ill do my best to describe in words but I know that it will not be adequate. I remember dying. It felt as if I was going down a drain or my brain was unplugged or something. I felt my life on earth end and I was absorbed into the building blocks of the universe. I don't know if it was pure conciseness or pure energy but I do know that I was a part of it and there was nothing smaller than that.

I wasnt ready for that though. I had read the stories and read about how powerful dmt is, but it could not prepare me for this. I was sure that I was going to die right there. I was worried about what my family would think when they found my body, how my friends would react. I though I was going to be in this state forever. I knew that no one had ever died from dmt and since I snorted it it would last around 40 minutes. However, In this state of pure energy I couldn't comprehend time. It did not make sense to me. I realized that time was just and invention and that the universe is infinite and we only perceive time as an invention by ourselves. I was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen but I was the most terrified I have ever been. I was in an what seemed like an infinite loop of "itll be over in 40 minutes" and "just vibe it out". At some point I regained some sense of my body but my mind was still in hyperspace. My nose was running like crazy from snorting and I remember picking it and it felt like my finger was going into my brain. I still had my eyes closed and I could see, and it felt like my hand was going inside of me and I was being folded inside out. I was so overwhelmed but what I had seen that i kept picturing myself flushing the dmt and never touching it again.

After what seemed like years, decades, maybe only seconds (I had absolutely no sense of time), I started to get good vibes again as I realized that I was going to return to my human body from this state and that I was not dead.

It was undoubtedly the most terrifying thing I have ever experienced, but at the same time it was so beautiful that I need so see it again. It definitely wont be for a little while but I feel that I do need to go back, however I wont snort it, Ill smoke it so it doesnt last as long.

Thank you for reading. I doubt this makes sense but maybe someone will understand.

The previous story is a work of fiction and should not be taken as fact
 

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#2 Posted : 11/23/2014 8:33:49 AM
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Sounds like a proper DMT experience Big grin

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#3 Posted : 11/23/2014 8:32:46 PM

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explorer332 wrote:
I remember dyI felt my life on earth end and I was absorbed into the building blocks of the universe. I don't know if it was pure conciseness or pure energy but I do know that I was a part of it and there was nothing smaller than that. f


Ah yes, the "end" experience.. Many of us have experienced it here. Quite menorable. At any point did you feel like you were living the same moment over and over again? The moment you "died"? Like you were stuck, in this infinite loop. You see death, you feel you actually comprehend life afterwards? Like you know what happens lol. But I understand, the thoughts raced through my head, why did I do this? I had do much ahead of me, so many people cared about me.. It is terrifying. I wasn't the same person after my "realization" experience. People pointed it out within the next few days, that I was acting different, didn't seem all there ya know. It's truly a blessing were here today. I'm so very grateful. Not getting off topic or anything here, but when I had that experience it kinda turned me towards religion in a way.. Lol. And I'm not a religious person.
But glad your okay!(: we all learn something from these certain experiences, a message of some sort. In my personal experience, I looked at it as "God" giving me a chance, lol. Made me realize a lot.

But anyways,
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#4 Posted : 11/23/2014 8:43:14 PM
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That is exactly what I felt! I don't think I could have described it better myself.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/23/2014 9:10:45 PM

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That is exactly what I felt! I don't think I could have described it better myself.


You can't describe it, you just have to experience it..
I tried describing it to my friends, but it was impossible for them
to fully understand.

You're not alone (:
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#6 Posted : 11/23/2014 9:18:14 PM

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Read this if you will...

Might she's some light on it.
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#7 Posted : 11/23/2014 9:18:24 PM
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Aweems wrote:
explorer332 wrote:
That is exactly what I felt! I don't think I could have described it better myself.


You can't describe it, you just have to experience it..
I tried describing it to my friends, but it was impossible for them
to fully understand.

You're not alone (:


I used to read the experience reports and I would read descriptions of things that would leave me scratching my head and wondering if everyone on this forum was insane. After my experience, I have gone back and everything makes sense to me now. It feels good to have people who can relate. Thank you.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/23/2014 9:21:35 PM

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Read this if you will...

Might she's some light on it.
"You didn't ask for this, You didn't mean to.. It was all in the timing. This come to, this realization."
 
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#9 Posted : 11/23/2014 9:30:00 PM
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I took a look at it, it was really interesting. I haven't heard that perspective before
 
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#10 Posted : 11/23/2014 9:32:59 PM

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Sweet stuff.

Welcome to the family.🙌
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#11 Posted : 11/25/2014 12:22:27 AM

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I didn't even think that dmt could be snorted Pleased
 
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#12 Posted : 11/25/2014 1:07:11 AM

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Aweems wrote:
Read this if you will...

Might she's some light on it.


No. Please dont share that misinformation.
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#13 Posted : 11/25/2014 1:49:39 AM

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anrchy wrote:
Aweems wrote:
Read this if you will...

Might she's some light on it.


No. Please dont share that misinformation.


Misinformation? Isn't it all personal experience?..
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#14 Posted : 11/25/2014 2:32:20 AM

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That link talks about a bunch of things as if they are fact, things that were theories and some that are just down right improbable. "Mystery of Death Solved: DMT is the Key" is the title of the article. This statement is so far from what we actually know its ridiculous.

Think about it. If dmt is the exit portal to heaven, then every single person who's death results in the brain not having enough time to produce this effect due to it be exploded or smashed enough, dont goto heaven. This would mean we are designed this way, which i feel is a major design flaw. I could go on and on about the lies in that article but basically its all rubbish. None of it has been proven yet. Just theories.
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#15 Posted : 11/25/2014 3:01:16 AM

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Here is a quick rundown of why this is misinformation and not a relevant source for academic discussion.

That article states:
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but our interest is in the gland’s role in the creation of dimethyltriptamine

The paper it cites concludes with this:
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We conclude that INMT protein is expressed in some primate central nervous system tissues . Whether INMT expression is associated with the local biosynthesis of N,N - dimethyltryptamine in neurons remains to be investigated

http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/~cozzi/Indolethylamine%20N-methyltransferase%20expression%20in%20primate%20nervous%20tissue.pdf

That article states:
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Secondly, DMT is the chemical that elicits dreams.

The paper it cites is rather interesting, but clearly states that it is speculative in nature:
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It should be mentioned that this hypothesis is not the currently accepted view of a mechanism for REM-dream sleep. In a recent article (9). acetylcholine was the neurotransmitter impli- cated as being responsible for initiating and maintaining REMS. It is quite likely that acetyl- choline. along with several other neurotransmit- ters, plays a major role in REMS, yet the actual catalyst for the dream state itself may be quite different in nature and function than the trans- mitters involved in the physiology of REMS.
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This article speculates on the endogenous production of psychedelic compounds to account or dream phenomena through a metabolic dream cycle, and posits that such a mechanism may be discrete from the physiological symptom- atology observed in the rapid eye movements of REMS.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...for_Dreams_and_Sleep.pdf

Multiple dodgy sources are cited as evidence. (ie. thirdeyeactivation.com, The Universe - Solved!, Erowid trip reports, Jon Barron's Blog, etc.) Wikipedia pages and other articles are cited as evidence when they are not relevant the claims made (ie. Theory of Relativity as evidence for subjective time dilation experiences under the influence of psychedelics, evidence of brain activity after death as evidence for endogenous psychedelic release, etc.)

To get back on topic for this thread, the experience of ego death is quite common to psychedelics, particularly DMT; however it is by no means exclusive to DMT. It's certainly understandable how one could be led to speculate that DMT may play a role in death, but it is important that we don't put forth speculations as facts.
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Visual diagram for the administration of dimethyltryptamine

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#16 Posted : 11/25/2014 3:06:03 AM

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Thumbs up thanks dreamer. Much better response than mine.
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