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Earthwalker
#1 Posted : 10/17/2014 12:42:20 PM

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Title says it all , bright white glass looking shard extals no goo ! Has anyone ever got a HUGE yeild like this !!
 

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#2 Posted : 10/17/2014 4:07:52 PM

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The most common cause of over-sized yields is improper removal of your base. You may have recrystallized some washing soda (or whatever base you used). I would suggest doing a quick recrystallization in naptha and seeing if that brings it down a bit.

It's also possible you pulled other alkaloids out of your ACRB (which has higher concentrations of other secondary metabolites like N-MMT and related compounds).

You may have gotten really lucky though. Fingers crossed.

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#3 Posted : 10/17/2014 4:27:37 PM

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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
The most common cause of over-sized yields is improper removal of your base. You may have recrystallized some washing soda (or whatever base you used). I would suggest doing a quick recrystallization in naptha and seeing if that brings it down a bit.

It's also possible you pulled other alkaloids out of your ACRB (which has higher concentrations of other secondary metabolites like N-MMT and related compounds).

You may have gotten really lucky though. Fingers crossed.

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Maybe you mean NMT (N-methyltryptamine)? NMT doesn't crystallize easily, and it won't crystallize at the same rate as N,N-DMT.

So, I don't think that high yield is due to NMT. It could be the base, as you mentioned, some other alkaloids (unlikely), or he got really lucky. Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 10/17/2014 5:15:22 PM

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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
The most common cause of over-sized yields is improper removal of your base.
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No washing soda was used , and when you mean base do you mean the base soup ?

If so I'm 100% positive there's no no base at all as I'm very very careful as not to pull any colour what so ever !!
 
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#5 Posted : 10/17/2014 8:03:10 PM

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Whoops, got an extra M in there. Thanks oversoul.

Earthwalker: If you basify with washing soda (or some other crystaline base), sometimes that can carry over and recrystallize along with your goodies. Again, rx with naptha and see how you're doing.

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#6 Posted : 10/19/2014 4:55:29 PM

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Did you follow max ion tek? Cyb said: A yield of 3% is theoretically achievable. Smile

*depending on climate, drought, season and perhaps, a murdered ('invasive' ) mad karma guys supplied root bark would be different from one that has been felled by a typhoon some weeks earlier..?
 
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#7 Posted : 10/19/2014 5:11:58 PM

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Intezam wrote:
Did you follow max ion tek? Cyb said: A yield of 3% is theoretically achievable. Smile

*depending on climate, drought, season and perhaps, a murdered ('invasive' ) mad karma guys supplied root bark would be different from one that has been felled by a typhoon some weeks earlier..?

Perhaps with mhrb...maybe.

With acrb...1-1.5% is about norm.

2.3% sounds exceptionally high.
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#8 Posted : 10/19/2014 5:37:29 PM

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cyb wrote:

Perhaps with mhrb...maybe.

With acrb...1-1.5% is about norm.

2.3% sounds exceptionally high.


What's that, mimosa hostilis has now more alkaloids than acacia confusa?
 
Earthwalker
#9 Posted : 10/19/2014 7:23:13 PM

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oversoul1919 wrote:
cyb wrote:

Perhaps with mhrb...maybe.

With acrb...1-1.5% is about norm.

2.3% sounds exceptionally high.


What's that, mimosa hostilis has now more alkaloids than acacia confusa?


Mimosa has always supposed to held more alks then confusa , depending on a lot of factors as listed above in Intezam's post Razz !

And Intezam it was using my TEK with freeze thaws ! Thumbs up
 
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#10 Posted : 10/20/2014 8:44:56 AM

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The hydrocloric acid you may have been using (bond+ll) contains 1% (or more) titatium dioxide Confused ...this is according to Bond+ll's data sheet..not sure if it has anything to do with your yields (*unlikely), but if we would use HCl we would use one that has only HCl and H2O in it, not anything else..

(* it may possibly be carcinogenic to humans)

edit: we would also use demineralized or filtered water ̶d̶̶u̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶o̶̶ ̶̶n̶̶e̶̶o̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶g̶̶r̶̶e̶̶e̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶B̶̶ø̶̶r̶̶g̶̶ ̶̶p̶̶e̶̶r̶̶f̶̶e̶̶c̶̶t̶̶i̶̶o̶̶n̶̶i̶̶s̶̶m̶
 
Earthwalker
#11 Posted : 10/20/2014 10:21:23 AM

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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
Whoops, got an extra M in there. Thanks oversoul.

Earthwalker: If you basify with washing soda (or some other crystaline base), sometimes that can carry over and recrystallize along with your goodies. Again, rx with naptha and see how you're doing.

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Ok reX and total weight was 4.345g = 2.172% yeild !!!
 
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#12 Posted : 10/20/2014 10:51:23 AM

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Intezam wrote:
The hydrocloric acid you may have been using (bond+ll) contains 1% (or more) titatium dioxide Confused ...this is according to Bond+ll's data sheet..not sure if it has anything to do with your yields (*unlikely), but if we would use HCl we would use one that has only HCl and H2O in it, not anything else..

(* it may possibly be carcinogenic to humans)

edit: we would also use demineralized or filtered water ̶d̶̶u̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶o̶̶ ̶̶n̶̶e̶̶o̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶g̶̶r̶̶e̶̶e̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶B̶̶ø̶̶r̶̶g̶̶ ̶̶p̶̶e̶̶r̶̶f̶̶e̶̶c̶̶t̶̶i̶̶o̶̶n̶̶i̶̶s̶̶m̶


When you speak about you're activity's you always say " we " is this you're alter ego or a partner in crime , or you're other personality " s " Razz just jokes ! Lol

 
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#13 Posted : 10/20/2014 11:08:59 AM

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..we can explain it -- but it would probably derail this thread -- anyways, it's something we deliberately imported into Angruish from another language (where this kind of talk usually reflects upon a low upbringing or basic self-education Wink ). There are also other reasons. ̶O̶̶u̶̶r̶ sincere apologies.
 
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#14 Posted : 10/20/2014 2:26:17 PM

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Yep upon mini A/B all goo gone but over 2%. big hunky chunky bark from the darkside of the roots. The Crystals when looked at through a jewlers loop looked like powder with larger shards within. I'm thinking the NMT oils got solidified. But I like the cancerous toxins theory better makes it feel more like meth and less like a spiritual gift from the creator blessed upon me with universal LOVE. J/K
I take a tiny little bit of bark out of different batches and pop it into my mouth raw like I was hiking and it is beef jerkey. I could taste a much stronger than the LAST batch alkaloid taste. So your experience matches my own. It FEELS as if the universe is turning up the volume to be heard.
MAybe some spectra chemotherapy would clarify. I can't take this seriously as I'm always at or over 2% with ACRB and a mini A/B removes peachy color and oils for me but I don't think it removes NMT.
 
 
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