I havent smoked much salvia in many months ,but i tryed a little pinch of extract today and one or two light hits and im instantly in a pure world of inner mind!
Trying mostly with DMT i find that the two differ a lot..
Dmt seems to leave your mental control and awareness unchanged..but the sheperdes [SD]seems to grab you so tightly that her embrace is unbreakable!
Entering salvia space.. seems like entering college..from dmt gradeschool?
A good dmt breakthrouh might change my opinion about the two but salvia extract is awesomely effective like flipping a switch from night to day..
After a couple of light puffs ..i found myself in a space between my physical body and my mental self..
Because the salvia dose was small.. i was able to remember i had [smoked salvia]and the experiance would desolve soon...
Also erotic experiances on salvia...comes in the many flavors of the rainbow!
Salvia can be used in controled doses with a certain degree of control.but higher doses can overwhelm!

When I read posts like this I get so motivated to smoke some extract Tonight will be the night. Thanks starway

Just remember that neither dmt or salvia are fun experiances ..but can be rewarding with right attitude..
DMT is by far a more popular experiance more people enjoy it..and it reaches far.

This is just my opinion of salvia and may not work the same for everyone..

Doing salvia extract 7x or 10x...start with ..LOW DOSE!..[meaning a small pinch]....and have a freind you trust near by...till you know your tolerance level..

Because some people can go into sleep walking mode... and thats only hapened to me once...and dont want to do it again..

I find that lower doses of salvia can be more rewarding because at those doses it alows you to think clearly enough to be safe and act in a safe manor...and to remember more of your experiance!

Larger doses of salvia extract makes you unable to remember much of your experiance ...
[unlike DMT] and can wipe you out too much...

If its an extract ..[lower doses]are smarter and more rewarding...

I absolutely adore and fear and respect both Dimitri and Sally for basically the same reasons. Many people, notably on this forum, feel that salvia is a joke or not worthwhile or what have you with the exception of a handful of bungeenauts. I couldn't disagree more. Perhaps to some the value is in the quality or structure of the visions. No doubt many people will celebrate DMT's crystalline lucidity in regards to visual effects. Some who know of salvia's strange beauty will wax poetic about it, as would I given the appropriate opportunity.

I dunno, I suppose what I mean to say is if you have dipped your toes into Dimitri's pool but haven't met Sally yet, or vice versa , consider it. Both experiences require complete release of ego, albeit salvia requires far less, well, no thought whatsoever to do so, being a "disassociative", even tho I don't agree with that label. I suppose it does take you far and away while simultaneously paralyzing your fear response/rationale...but it's unique in that regard at the same time.

I've visited mountain ranges inhabited by gnomes who were caretakers of huge hieroglyphic neon signs akin to a grocery stores marquee. Seen fantastical tiny beings manipulate reality as tho they were doing a menial task during their 9-5 routine. These visions, along with many similar such visions I have also seen, differently colored and structured on DMT. The same School of gnomes/beings however.

Well, goodnight all. I've been awake for faaar too long and require sleep to function in the morning. Random disjointed thoughts.....atied together with love and delirium.

Just realized my third little stanza down rhymed a bunch! Subconscious Wavy Gravy influence I suspect hahaha!!

I'm thinking of meting with Sally soon, too. I think that every psychedelic is unique, and every one of them has different lesson to offer. Yes, DMT is magnificent due to fact that it propels you to place where everything seems real, yet at the same time seems unreal, place which is solid as reality in which we usually are. But salvia has it's own place where unique things happen. Respect it, and salvia space will reward you with valuable lessons and experiences.

there is some contradiction in this, also in my opinion dmt is great fun.



Its not only something salvia can do it can happen on dmt as well.

The thing I find interesting about the shepherdess is that even the subtle experiences can be powerful if full focus is given to the experience, especially if in a deep meditative mind state. Salvia enhances meditation and meditation enhances salvia... that whole chicken and the egg conundrum, and the sage spirit surely enjoys a good conundrum being the trickster that she is!

Indeed I've read many articles and trip reports about the silent-magic-potential of salvia, especially in quid form. Meditation would surely be a worthwhile experience whilst in the throes of salvia influence. Haven't tried a quid myself but I've given a quid or two to close friends and witnessed them "meditate" during these exploits. The experience of watching my buddies undergo these journeys is undeniably a 45 minute to an hour long sallyscape ::