Last night, on my third attempt at a breakthrough on DMT using a vaporizer called the Vapolution, I experienced ego death. However, I'm not sure if I actually broke through completely, or if the ego death interrupted my trip before I got that far ...

Before this experience, I really didn't know what ego death was. I'd read several convoluted explanations about 'you being separated from yourself' and didn't really know what they were talking about. Sometimes, people are really good at making simple concepts very complicated Also, even though I'd read a lot about DMT and thought I knew what to expect, I didn't actually know ego death was something that could happen on DMT. And I certainly didn't know it was going to happen on the first breakthrough. It's kind of like getting on a roller coaster and not knowing that occasionally, it drops through the center of the universe.

On my first DMT trip, I just watched the room shift and morph. On the second attempt, I saw the room shift and morph again, and there was some intense closed eye visuals. Basically just random objects hurling by me in a white void. Even as I write this, I'm still not sure if I broke through on this trip or not.

On the third attempt, I once again loaded up 50mg. I was determined to keep taking hits until I was physically too far gone to move. The room started to shift and morph again, and I was treated to a more intense version of the same visuals as last time, where there was more 'stuff' and I wasn't really sure if the objects were alien or not. It felt like a busier, more abstract version of the same thing I saw in my second trip.

On this third trip though, I had a distinct feeling of being separated from my body. And I knew I couldn't take another hit, not because I was too stoned to move, but because I didn't have arms anymore. Whereas the second time, I kinda thought maybe I'd be able to remember some of the visuals, this time I knew that if I gave into the trip completely, there was no eff'ing way I'd be able to bring any of it back with me. So I was trying to decide whether I wanted to TRY and mentally 'take notes' or just give myself fully to it and let whatever happens happen.

And then the 'bottom fell out', I dissolved into nothingness, and no longer existed. I didn't know who I was or what I was, and had no concept of time and space. I didn't have a concept of anything really. I honestly have no idea if the visuals were still there, as I was not After my 'light went out', I woke up and spent the next few minutes drifting in and out of reality and the white void. When it was all over, I had the distinct impression that I had died and came back to life. At first, I thought the ego death part (which I still wasn't quite sure at the time if that's what it was) was the actual breakthrough and just a normal part of the DMT experience, but it seems, based on what I read from Googling, that the ego death just happens sometimes on high doses of psychedelics, sort of like a random bonus round that happens in a video game. (Best analogy I can come up with.)

So the question is, did I experience the full 'DMT package', or is there more to it than the trippy visuals I was presented with? In other words, does an ego death during a trip change the way the trip turns out, or does it just happen 'on top' of the breakthrough, and the original trip still goes on as it originally would've had the ego death part not happened?

If I decide to trip again, what is the likelihood that I'll experience another ego death? Is it pretty normal to happen with DMT, or does it only happen every great once in awhile? I'm not necessarily against it, but I wasn't exactly looking for it either. Is it different every time it happens? I kind of thought it was overrated, to be quite honest. Not that it wasn't the most terrifying and exhilarating experience of my life, but I'd expected it to be this life-changing event. (I mean the ego death specifically, not the breakthrough.) I'm certainly not discounting anyone else's experience, but some people talk as if they came out of it a completely different person. I really didn't feel any differently.

I think ego death is breaking through in regards to dmt but don't take my word for it, not tried dmt yet finishing my extraction this week, but I've had ego death on 4-aco-dmt and that's how you described it, im interested in the vaporiser you used, can you give me a run through of what you did, gonna buy a vapouriser but not paying £300 for a volcano, want something hassle free so not interested in a gvg or machine or out

Sure, it's this one:

http://www.vapolution.com

IMO, this is a good starter vape for cannabis. If you're going to use it for that purpose, keep in mind that whatever attachment you use to smoke DMT, consider that piece dedicated to DMT You might be able to get the smell/taste out by soaking it in alcohol, but I haven't tried yet. Also, if any spice falls down into the unit, your next few cannabis vaping sessions are going to be rather unpleasant.

As for the unit itself, you have to use the sandwich method to put the spice in, unless you buy the concentrate bowl attachment. (The concentrate bowl was JUST recommended to me on another site, so I haven't tried it yet. That might actually solve the problem of spice falling out.) I use the whip/straight bowl attachment.) And you're going to need some kind of funnel, instead of trying to use your fingers to load it like I did the first time The time I broke through, I loaded 50mg and set the dial just before the 12'o clock position. I like using the Vapolution because you don't have to worry about setting down a bong or dropping a hot pipe in your lap. You just sit back with the whip and inhale. I had to do 5-6 hits before I blasted off, as opposed to the traditional 3. But the hits were smooth. Barely any burning at all.

thanks for the reply, i don't smoke cannabis so this would be used mainly for dmt, im just trying to find a cheapish vaporizer to use for dmt and one that works well, like you i would rather have the ease of turning a dial and taking a hit without the need to light something or potentially burning myself or breaking my apparatus through dropping