Fellow travelers,

I have just come up from the deepest psychedelic experience of my life. The degree of ineffability of this particular journey gave me a gleeful sense of satisfaction. I know its a crude metaphor, but after much foreplay around hyperspace I finally have lost my psychedelic virginity*.

So on that wise, I wanted to re-introduce myself before jumping into some questions for you.

I am pretty hardcore Mormon. To some, DMT and Mormonism seem incompatible but I do not believe this. I'm not saying they exactly go together, but who is to say they cant? Anyway, outside one particular thing its not that relevant. That one thing is that I have experienced the divine on a pretty deep level. Sometimes I forget this, and the sacred gems I've mined before sleep wistfully under a bed of life's dust of business, disappointment and doubt. I know I previously have boo-hooed about my life as a spiritual hardgainer; that is still true but I have received many spiritual riches from my labors. I just forget it a lot - good thing I've kept bullshit-free journals for most of my life.

From my experience, the divine is way different than DMT experience. That is something that I didn't expect. One similarity they do share is that forgetting/remembering factor; I realized that today's foray into hyperspace, diving deeply into the midnight sea, I had been here before!

Even on some of my milder sessions, I saw this same space. Same universe - same spiritual plane with its inherent physics and colors and geometries. Like the ocean, its colors undulate and textures morph; each wave can be a beautiful and unique painting that will never be seen again, but at its very substance it will always be the same. Chaotic, deep, everywhere and everything. As I swam in it tonight, my essence gave way into it's own and I stopped floating atop the surface. I folded into it and became one with it.

Then I tumbled through the bizarre circus of colors and Aztec shapes. I smoke DMT in the bathroom, and there lying down on my cold tile floor, I was lost. I only had a vague sensation of my body and it was that my knee was leaning against the tub and the slightest muscle action required to keep it there was ultimately tedious and exhausting. My only real conscious thought was that next time I tripped, I wanted to be blasted so far down into hyperspace that this burden would be overwhelming and would push me into a new form of experience. Perhaps bravery, perhaps foolishness. Either way, I vowed to go deeper. I also remember that the pulsing and overwhelming vibrations persisted much deeper into my trip this time. Previously, I would start to come down at 8 minutes and the effects would weaken. This time, I was blasted off much faster and stayed deeper for longer** (and I did it off less spice - thanks for every one's advice on how to make more of your smoke!)

I am amazed that there is some much skill in experiencing the psychedelic. As mentioned, tonight actually illuminated my previous trips - helped me remember their details and make sense of them. Its like hyperspace is such an overload that at first your brain doesn't have the memory space to hold it all so when you are down its almost wiped clean.

Sure, it could be a backward rationalization and blind-spot filling technique by my mind and memory - people are not immune to that like they pretend to be - but t felt categorically different than false memory. It just felt like actually remembering details of a movie I'd seen several years ago, with facts about the film that are not subjective so its not a demon of the mind.

Thank you for all your help.

Much love,

FF

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Question 1: How hard is it for you to hold your mind together and remember the deeper trips? Did this improve over time?

Question 2: I know its best to get the maximum amount of DMT vapor into your body as quickly as possible, but is there a window where you have to put all the DMT into your body before it'll disregard any more? I have trouble getting all the spice vaporized off the screens in one hit, but have good physical control in the first minute of the trip so I can keep hitting. Or should I pursue getting improve devises for more efficient vaporization? I'm currently using a bong with "the key".


* For you more perverse folks, yes, it was quite an deep and exquisite rooting.
** 28 mg, plus some melted residual on the screens.

Hey there! Sounds like quite an adventure.

1. This is something that is usually fairly easy for me. I believe it has improved over the past year that I've been smoking. Everyone is a little different. I often forget some of the minor details, but they come back at the right time - you'll know what I mean when it happens

2. Before I got my VG, I would load a larger amount of spice on top of herbs and smoke it that way. I'd break through on one hit, but I imagine I likely wasted a lot. Now, with the VG and the liquid volcano pad, I load anywhere from 20-30 MG into the pipe, clear it all in one hit, and then hold on. Sometime it takes some trial and error to get used to your device of choice.

hey

ad 1:
what acacia said. i had one experience where all my former breakthroughs were combined to a single experience, which i remeber quite well. after that, the topic changed radically, still integrating that one.

learning.to listen with your full attention might help to bring back more from your trips. just focus on some detail in your daily life and "listen" to it. can be any outside stimulus. just make the decision to focus on it for x minutes, set a timer and return to it everytime you catch yourself losing attention. 2x 5 minutes per day maybe a good start, prolong to 30-45 minutes each session over maybe 1-2months. regular practice beats long but sporadic sessions.

ad 2:
yes, there is a small window of maybe 90 seconds (for me) after which breakthrough is denied. interestingly, when i experiment with small doses to improve thinking (just one small toke every 10 minutes) i sometimes smoothly glide into breakthrough.

there are gvg alternatives discussed on the forums which work as well and with the same mechanism but cost 30-40 dollars. give those a shot or go for the original. saves a lot if dmt too.

good luck!

Truly amazing report, thanks for sharing.

1: The first 10-15 times I've taken DMT it was impossible for me to keep my shit together. The rapid onset and astonishment left little room for me to process any of what was going on. Once I was able to realize I can't anticipate what will happen, I can only accept that things are about to get really weird for a while, I was then able to explore hyperspace and interact with it. At the same time being able to remember it doesn't mean it will be easily put into word.

2: I've tried many different things at first. I was having trouble getting to where I wanted to be. What worked for me is just time and experience. The excitement and anticipation had a lot to do with my failed breakthroughs. Another thing is the recommended dosages that are thrown around on here may not be appropriate for you. A lot of people claim 20-25mg is all that is needed for an intense trip where I usually take 45-50mg. Work your way up til you find the sweet spot if you overshoot your target you'll definitely know it.

Thanks for your input guys. I'm still working on perfecting dosing and accurate technique. I feel like I'm just getting my sea-legs in this regard.

Regarding Q2 - I'm going to try to dial in how long the uptake period is for me; I've tried a couple of times to vape off the left-overs midway trip or just after. Last night I did back to back doses to learn about the refractory periods. I come from a science background, so I dig probing the nuts and bolts of knowledge for the benefit of all. I'll post more on that later.


On a side note, is there a way for me to become a full member? I kinda want to respond to some private messages I received.