Ok, so I thought I would try it tonight. The first real session, since my first try a week ago try I didnt know what I was doing; burning the spice, gagging on the harsh smoke on my 5 euro bulb vaper. But a beginners session. I decided to buy a GVG, since doing it in the cheap thing seemed impossible. Loaded up 15mg on a bed of herbs, I wasnt going for a break through, just getting my feet wet.

First hit: I coughed hard, wasnt prepared. Second hit, was pretty smooth (nice to know I didnt waste my money on the thing), held my breath. Heavy bodyload, great urge to lean back and put pipe down. The vapor on my shroom filter-bag began to look like an alien grey, but didnt do very much.
"Not ready, but soon", I heard. Or was I talking to myself? "You are on the right track with things in your life vortex, keep going", I heard.
Someone shouted, "the chamber of Guf has opened"! I kept hearing this several times the next two flights. No visuals when I closed my eyes. Back to normal after 8 mins.

Again: hit one, hit two. Hits me harder this time. Have to put my pipe down again, falling in a slump. Close my eyes and the iboga/aya like visuals start. Dancing patterns on a black background, mandala like figures. Its pushing hard on me, heavy body-load, very heavy pushing feeling on my head, place of the 3rd eye? Past the abstract figures, on the borders of hyperspace now, going in and out. Getting 3d images of space like structures, too complex to explain.
Wow this stuff is powerful already and it was just a tiny hit. Getting on my peak now, was still just conscious, but hyperbolic space scenes flitting by. 10 mins had passed, felt like 2 minutes. This was the most powerful of the three, but least informative somehow. I forgot the last part since the images were getting too complex. I cannot think of the right words.

Third try (all this was still from the 15mg). Two hits and the spice was gone. Closed eyes for visuals. I felt sinking underground, amber colors, with black brown on my peripherals. It had an earthly, gnome type of energy to it. There was some kind of deja vu. As mentioned, I had tried the spice one time earlier, thought it failed, but had apparently forgotten something did happen, albeit very subtle? The gate has opened, I heard again. I seems that somehow I have always been sensitive to imagery when in an relaxed state, but now in DMT space, this gate has opened (in real life)?
Anyway, the deja vu feeling: It was really strange, like I connected to something that I had already connected to earlier in that session, but had forgotten. But it was also something I had known from before that, from somewhere (a dream, a vision, another life?).

I fell under the earth in another world, there was something shroomy about it, earthly, amber/brown colors, dark creamy amber cloudy sky. A big tree, or stalk, or perhaps mushroom was were slid down from. Im not sure if I was talking to myself, but I kept getting messages. "It" tried to be a bit sinister at first, since this world was a bit gloomy, but then it laughed and said, just kidding. "You shouldn't be afraid of journeying. You have a good soul and should attract good folk". "Like this". I was shown images for what seemed like milliseconds of other environments. Sure you might encounter some darker ones, but usually they are just curious. Just keep your energy to yourself (liberally translated because I got an image on this). It was fading fast now, the spice had run its course.

I looked up this "chamber of guf": "The mystic significance of the Guf is that each person is important and has a unique role which only he or she, with his or her unique soul, can fulfill. Even a newborn baby brings the Messiah closer simply by being born."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guf

Thanks for your report.

When you travel, your mindset affects which world you will visit. If you are scared, you might end up on a lower vibrational level and will therefore see "evil" beings from one of the lower realms. Vibration is like a radio tuner and affects which plane of existence you will "tune into".

If you let go of your ego you might vibrate so rapidly that you go very high up the hierarchy and experience pure, unconditional love. But never make the mistake of believing that you have reached the top level. The rabbit hole seems to go forever upwards and there is no end to the surprises.

When I visit really high realms on DMT, I hear a tone that is around 600-700 Hz. Earth on the other hand vibrates at less than 10 Hertz. That says a lot about our planet.

It also makes me wonder if there are even lower vibrational planes than Earth. Perhaps even darker places. We should ask the DMT spirits sometime, if we can remember to ask...

That pretty neat I like the pressure on my head, it's like some force telling to relax and submit myself to the journey. I've had that feeling on all the most intense journey's I've had. Have you felt an intense heat energy radiating from your chest?

That is your soul leaving through your third eye (your forehead, between your eyebrows). I felt the same thing on my near death experience. It happens on both DMT and in death.

"Not ready but soon".

Yes, that's it. I've received similar message, and I just know it wasn't me talking to myself.

Great report, and happy travels, my friend. Infinite possibilities, infinite places to visit, infinite things to see, infinite beings to meet are waiting for you.

I wish you very happy happy future journeys my friend.

Peace and love.

I wasnt really scared to be honest. But you read all the stories, so perhaps there was something nagging me in the background. I have done aya and iboga and both involved short displays of 'demons', but they didnt scare me (thankfully).

If you take the word of astral travelers, earth is not all that dark, a bit of a mixed bag. Not very light, but there are apparently much darker places.

With Salvia I get this too, but its more like pushing and pulling on the sides of my head/body. Didnt get any chest radiation

Thanks! The thing that amazed me was how strong it already was at just 15 mg (divided by three even). Omg, how would it be at 40mg in three hits then I was thinking. I cannot imagine holding that much smoke in my lungs for starters.

You might want to steer clear of making declarative statements in here regarding matters of pure conjecture. My guess is that you don't actually know what happens in death, and your soul's departure from the middle of your forehead being the cause of physical sensations during a DMT experience has no actual basis in reality.

Post #7 will explain: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=560851#post560851

I think you mean the penial gland which is shaped like an eye a d in the ce ter of your brain. (Hence the name).

Yes, the third eye is the pineal gland. The location that it happens at is between your eyebrows and slightly upwards (exactly at the location where the 3rd eye is classically drawn in ancient religions).

I used to think they were all full of crap and that the third eye was nothing special and was just a bunch of new age woo-woo. I was wrong.

I can't say exactly why your soul has to pass through that point of your skull, but that is exactly what it does.

It is no coincidence that so many ancient religions have all independently identified that spot.

I probably sound like all the new age woo-woo people when I state this as an undeniable fact, but having experienced it first-hand I now know this to be completely true and finally know that all of those religions were right.

Some things can't be understood in words; they have to be experienced.

But if there are any people in the world who might be able to understand, it's those who have had near-death experiences of their own and have left their bodies. In second place comes people who have travelled to other worlds via DMT. So for those of you who want to attempt to understand the impossible in words, you can read the report here: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=560851#post560851

I don't believe you are crazy by any means. Pineal glands on other mammals have a cornea/retina. I don't think that's a coincidence. Look at psychological studies such as 'forced helplessness) origionally tested with dogs. Even hitler praised the US. For our ability to keep the masses blind.

I don't believe in spirits, souls, and I am indifferent ro religious. But I do believe in meditation and spiritual journey's. I have also always found an expeeiment where they measured the weight of a human soul particularly interesting.

As long as we separate mysticism and reality we're doing okay

And just because something has been experienced does not mean it's real or has been remotely understood.

The most profound and transformational experiences I've ever had have all left me with a multitude of questions and no concrete answers whatsoever. Whatever conclusions I have drawn don't really look a whole lot like yours. I don't speak of them in absolutes, however, because none of us really knows anything.

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I might as well list the alphabet. That's as productive as talking about death to somebody who has not died.

PS: I'll spare you from bringing up your next argument: "You didn't die." Correct. I escaped from the white tunnel and came back to my physical body again.

It's pointless to discuss this. The only way I could prove it to you is by killing you, but then you unfortunately wouldn't be able to come back to this forum to write about it. I'm not even joking, either.

And what happens at death and what happens on DMT are wildly different things. Both are forms of travel to higher vibrational realms. But death is the actual, permanent journey where your astral body leaves your physical body and travels into the pure, white realm. DMT "just" lets you peer into it and (sometimes) speak to its inhabitants to be guided along. What you hear from beings on DMT (or via other means of clairvoyance) is not necessarily true. They are playful beings of consciousness and "minds" just like your own - and while they don't wish you *harm*, they don't owe you anything either. They will only tell you whatever you need to hear, and they revel in being playful and not giving you the whole answer. They revel in confusing you and giving you misleading half-truths and incomplete solutions, and then watching you try to apply that towards your life-journey and trying to figure out what it means. I'd estimate their ratio between lies and truths to be about 50-50%. When they tell us lies, it is rarely malicious from their perspective; they know that you're an immortal spirit who has simply forgotten who you are, and they simply don't take your current, temporary physical life very seriously, and they are just playing around with you - and what they say almost always leads to good insights anyway, even when they are lying. Most of them actually tremendously enjoy helping us and seeing us flourish and fulfill our destinies, but they don't owe you anything, and *none* of them want to give you the whole answer - since you need to *earn* it. Just like they did. They are the same as you. I know; I've been there. I still had my own mind. When we die, our consciousness in this life simply leaves the body and heads back to the higher realms. Just like the personalities and mental-powers differ between incarnated spirits here on Earth, the spirits who stay in the spirit world and guide you also all wildly vary in power. That is because they *are* the same spirits/consciousnesses who were once down here. Some are feeble minds, and others are demigods. When Paris Hilton dies, she will return to the spirit world where she might choose to guide people. Keep that in mind next time you listen to messages from the spirits. Sure, ascension will help her fully remember who she truly is and will give her access to universal knowledge and she will become filled with unconditional love for everything and everyone, but she'll still have the mental processing power of Paris Hilton - because our mind/thoughts is literally what our soul *is*. And minds come in all colors. This is also why your Hyperspace travels will sometimes see powerful spirits slap the heck out of other, lower spirits for willfully or unwittingly misbehaving, misleading or otherwise acting maliciously towards you. Spirits are *not* all perfect and what they tell you is split about 50-50% between truth and playful half-truths/lies. To them, life is just a game.


There is only one way we could do this in a controlled manner, without permanently killing you: You can sign up for electric radiation, where they irradiate your brain to cause an electrical storm in your physical body's brain. This in turn disrupts and breaks the electrical bond between your astral body and your physical body's brain. It detaches the soul and creates instant near-death experiences and soul-travel. Study the published research papers by Pim van Lommel. He discovered that consciousness exists outside of the brain and that clinical brain-death (the physical shutdown of all electrical activity in the physical brain), as well as electrical radiation (the chaotic shutdown of all electrical activity in the physical brain), will both detach the soul's electrical connection and make the subject's astral body leave their physical body. Hundreds of test subjects were able to recount events that took place in other rooms, while their bodies lay passed out. Do not dismiss this as mere mumbo-jumbo claims. He has managed to scientifically prove the electrical link between the astral body and physical body. The brain is just an electrical input/output interface for the soul to control its vessel (your temporary, physical body). Via the brain, it reads your temporary body's sensory input, and produces electrical output to control its limbs. Your physical body is literally a spaceship for your astral body. As for why the soul uses electricity? And why the soul leaves the body through the third-eye in the middle of the brain? Well... think about it: Why not? Everything else about the world is already strange enough. The astral body using electricity to pilot the physical body is no stranger than the fact that we are already inside of a world which inevitably came from *nothing*. The greatest miracle has already happened.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Extraordinary proof exists: Millions of near-death experiences that all match up. I personally never believed in near-death experiences or the "tunnel of white light" until I saw it with my own astral eyes. And if that doesn't satisfy you (and it shouldn't, because it wasn't enough for me until I had experienced it myself), then read *all* of Pim Van Lommel's research without a dismissive and willfully inhibited mind. Better yet: Sign up for some radiation so that you can break free from your physical body and have a real wander in the astral realms.

Short of you doing that, I don't have any reason to continue defending something you've never experienced. I really do apologize.

There sometimes comes a point when science and millions of personal experiences meets, and you can finally talk in definitive terms. This is one of those times.

I've been pronounced legally dead twice due to a failed operation for a hernia. And there are plenty of accounts of people having nearly identical out of body experiences from huge amounts of DMT. I don't believe reflecting your own personal journey as an absolute for others' is exactly fair.

We all have our own course in life, let's just be respectful of that.

I already said that both visit the same realm, here:

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I'm not. There's nothing personal about it. It's the definition of a universal journey: I experienced what millions of others have experienced before me, and which has recently been scientifically measured by Pim van Lommel in hundreds of patients. I am simply presenting the facts which have been experienced by millions of people for tens of thousands of years and have now finally been established through rigorous scientific experiments.

At what points do facts become enough for people? Millions of people throughout history have experienced this and survived to tell about it. Do we need billions before people take it seriously?

I don't even think billions will be enough. There's no substitute for actually experiencing it. It's invisible to "average" people and they will therefore never believe in it. I know about that kind of ignorance first-hand: I had zero belief in the spirit world before it happened to me. I used to hate "new age woo-woo" as a kid. I know what it's like to be on the skeptic side of things. There is no amount of evidence that will convince someone who hasn't experienced it for themselves. No matter what people told me in the past, I always had some explanation for why they were wrong and why it was just their minds playing tricks on them. Such is the world of blissful ignorance.

I think the only way to make an average person understand it is to put them in the electric radiation machine to shut down their spirits connection to their physical brain and give them a little involuntary astral-body travel to broaden their minds. It's literally that simple to break the immortal astral body's bond to the temporary, physical host-body. The entire connection between your soul and the body-spaceship depends on a working, electrical connection between the soul and the host-body's brain. Read Pim van Lommel's published science papers where he used various ways to shut down the brain's electrical activity or disrupt its normal flow of electricity, to disconnect people's spirits from their temporary host-bodies.

It is a repeatable, scientific experiment which works on every person on this planet. There is nothing subjective about that. And it confirms all of the millennia of religious, mystical and near-death experiences.

Some astute readers might interject with the old cliche: "But... their brains must simply be electrically misfiring and causing hallucinations." Nope! Among his subjects were countless patients with clinical brain-death: Zero electrical activity in the brain, sometimes for several hours. During that time of total physical death, those people were having fun travelling around in their immortal, astral bodies. Some were floating around in the physical world and observing things and listening to conversations at different places in the building (and were then able to relay that information in detail), and some were travelling up through the portals to higher vibrational planes to visit other spirits.

It won't be long until all scientists catch up to this frontier of research into our existence, and our immortality becomes common knowledge among all of humanity. The widespread dissemination of this knowledge can only lead to a great awakening, which will affect every aspect of how we view society. It will definitely be amusing to see it affect how we view murder and the death penalty as well as how we treat psychedelic (spirit-travel) drugs, mediums, clairvoyance and everything that once used to be relegated to the fringe. It's going to be so hilarious to see all of the previous obnoxious skeptics standing there in slackjawed, stunned silence, realizing that they were completely wrong all along.

Have fun:

Read this one: ---> http://www.skeptiko.com/...ath-experience-research/
http://www.pimvanlommel.nl/home_eng
http://www.nderf.org/NDE...lommel_consciousness.htm
http://www.nderf.org/NDE...mel_skeptic_response.htm

It would appear to me that your experience was due to an oxygen-starved brain. Those who suffer serious coronary malfunction can be dead within moments, but a pulmonary embolism or something like that will kill a person over a few hours. I think the big difference is in one situation the body just stops working and in the other the body slowly shuts down. When the body slowly shuts down, I would not be surprised if someone experienced all manners of states of mind due to oxygen deprivation. Our brains are strange organs and our body has some interesting build-in mechanisms to ensure our survival despite our conscious will. I would bet that most peoples' near death experiences are almost all due to oxygen deprivation, hence the similar character of the accounts. Maybe not.

Classic response simply showing unfamiliarity with the available research. It was the first theory that was examined and eliminated.

Skeptic response available here, responding in great detail to that theory and countless others. The anoxia theory is examined within the first few paragraphs:
http://www.nderf.org/NDE...mel_skeptic_response.htm

You sound like you have a medical degree, or are very good at Google. In either case, you are clearly intelligent enough that you will be able to understand and enjoy the read.


Love and light.

What a cool report! the amazing thing as you denoted is the amount: 15mg?!