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PsychoFraggle
#1 Posted : 8/29/2014 11:55:47 PM

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Hey People Smile

So after a half year which I`m here in the Nexus and after 4 Month without my Laptop, I`m back again.

With "Cyb`s Salt Tek" I got a minimum yield of 1,75 % white fluffy crystals of DMT in a few extractions in the last 6 Month and I`m very happy about this and I hope I understand now the basic chemestry.

My problem was only, stop not my, but from my friend, that he can`t get enough smoke in, becouse it`s burn to harsh for him in his neck if we smoke with a glass bulb or oil pipe. Everytime the dmt burn after a short time and don`t vapo complete to the end.

Then I make "The Mashine", at first we took a little 200ml bottle and steelwool, which works but not realy good and only if we pull on the bottle, there don`t came any steam only from the lighter or torch under the bottleneck with the wool in, without that we pull air trough the bottleneck.

The taste was much better then before, but no breaktrough.

Then we get Copperwool, the same problem how before that dmt don`t vapo if we only heat it with the torch or lighter but the dmt re crystalzie if we pull on the cold glass.

The taste was pretty good. Smile

I think about the copperwool and then I make a little ball from the wool and in the middle I put the dmt then I collapse the ball. The DMT is now in a little cage of copperwool.

I put this ball in my pur weed glaspipe, warm up the glas and then the copperwool only with the tip of the flame. The dmt is melting and you taste the smoke but it`s not harsh or something else it`s like a Shisha Smile

After I Lost so much yield which the wrong methode with harsh taste and no breaktrough I smoke only with this Copperwool Glaspipe Methode.

Normally nobody need more then 2 hit`s but you can load enough for 5 o 6 hit`s in the wool like in the "The Mashine".

Cooperwool is the perfect filter for the bad taste of the dmt.
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oversoul1919
#2 Posted : 8/30/2014 2:43:04 AM

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Taste of DMT is due to vaporization technique. If you're vaping DMT at optimal temp, smoke/vapor shouldn't be harsh at all. In fact, it should be flowery and very mild (my experience). But if you burn it, you destroy it, and then it is really nasty, and has that "plastic burning" smell that many are talking about.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/30/2014 1:44:44 PM

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Yes that`s right, but the most people and me too have the problem with the distance to the bulb and the heat and then burn the dmt, i think the copperwool protect the dmt to burn.
 
Nadja
#4 Posted : 9/8/2014 12:38:58 AM

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Like was said above, the smoke is pretty smooth if properly vaporized.

You may want to buy a Glass Vapor Genie if you want the smoothest way of vaporizing, since it heats very evenly and accurately and prevents burning the spice.
 
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#5 Posted : 9/9/2014 3:45:59 AM

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The glass bulb style pipes are notoriously inefficient and unreliable when it comes to vaporizing DMT.

I'm a little confused, are you heating the machine from the side (flame close to the glass neck of the bottle) or are you heating it from the opening (flame close to the steel/copper mesh)? The theory should be the same as putting the metal scrubber in your glass pipe, except the length of the neck allows you to use more metal mesh and keep it from running down the inside of the vessel.

I used to use The Machine, and I have found it to be second only to the GVG in terms of efficiency and effectiveness. Though when I did it, I always used much smaller bottles. I think they were either 50 or 75mL. It didn't work as well when I tried it with a half pint bottle.
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FiniteFox
#6 Posted : 9/9/2014 4:14:52 AM
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oversoul1919 wrote:
Taste of DMT is due to vaporization technique. If you're vaping DMT at optimal temp, smoke/vapor shouldn't be harsh at all. In fact, it should be flowery and very mild (my experience). But if you burn it, you destroy it, and then it is really nasty, and has that "plastic burning" smell that many are talking about.


One thing I've never quite understood - does burning the dmt actually denature the spice so that it becomes inactive? I know it tastes nasty but won't it still send you to hyperspace?
 
oversoul1919
#7 Posted : 9/11/2014 6:13:43 PM

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FiniteFox wrote:
oversoul1919 wrote:
Taste of DMT is due to vaporization technique. If you're vaping DMT at optimal temp, smoke/vapor shouldn't be harsh at all. In fact, it should be flowery and very mild (my experience). But if you burn it, you destroy it, and then it is really nasty, and has that "plastic burning" smell that many are talking about.


One thing I've never quite understood - does burning the dmt actually denature the spice so that it becomes inactive? I know it tastes nasty but won't it still send you to hyperspace?


Yes, too much heat destroys the spice. However some will vaporize, and some will burn, that's why you can get decent experience even with burnt spice, but breakthroughs are impossible.
 
 
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