(Edited with extended details about extractions and a clearer mind; pictures added below)

Have you ever felt as if the universe has covered one of your eyes so that you perpetually hit your head against a wall? Just when you think you've understood the landscape, your depth perception betrays you and ... WHACK. The pain makes you laugh as cry, briefly displacing your anger, until you run headlong again into some obstacle, repeating a form of cosmic slapstick.

To me, the cosmic joke about psychedelics is that they are simultaneously a deeply social and extremely individualist pursuit. The solitary part is immediately apparent; the experience resides deep within and no one else can truly know what you've experienced. What you gain from the experience is private and some say tailored to your being.

The social aspect is the maddening one for me. I suppose that in the olden days (whatever that means), you would be introduced to the drug by someone. A friend, a lover, a teacher - you'd probably be an apprentice to them in the experience. Drugs are dangerous, the chemistry, the source material and now the legal status all need adroit navigation.

To pine about will do me no good; I have you, fellow traveler. And the cold internet, awash with truths and lies mingled tightly together.

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In the past I've tried (and failed for perfectly good reasons) two ayahusca brews: likely didn't have enough ACRB in my boils to work. I definitely felt the syrian rue tea and my body vibrated a bit through the nausea, but no visuals or trip to speak of. I decided I should try extracting to know what I was dealing with.

So I tried oral dmt pharmahuasca, which made me feel nothing. I used the same batch of ACRB with the Q21Q21 tek. Being new to the chem lab, I spilled some here and there, but felt I followed the tek accurately. The jimjam looked like pictures on the internet I'd seen, so when I did 4.5 g of syrian rue + 100 mg of jimjam, I was shocked that it did absolutely nothing. I parachuted the rue this time, 30-40 minutes before the spice. No body load from the rue this time so maybe I'd need to make a tea.

I return to the forums and got some good advice: I'd try smoking dmt. Only had a little acetate left, and not knowing any better (and hearing one report that it could work) I tried smoking it with "the machine" (nothing happened).

Now out of my first buy of ACRB, I get a second batch. I do the BLAB tek this time, going to dmt acetate from the vinegar salting (looks like the jimjam from the above attempt) and then based it as suggested into freebase. I then wash/evap with acetone and get a yellow/red goo, lighter than the previous acetate.

With the freebase, I tried smoking 22 mg. This time I've figured out the convection aspect of smoking much better. I get a huge hit of white smoke that burns my throat and surprises me, I couldn't hold it in for more than a second or two before coughing like mad. I gag and wheeze; since I've never smoked prior to my foray into DMT, this was pretty harsh. Other than that, no body feeling so I suppose I didn't absorb enough. Try again ten minutes with a 35 mg dose after adding a 8 oz "holding tank" to the end of my machine to cool down the smoke. Still harsh, but I take in several long tokes. Nothing.

Not to be defeated, I try again a week later, this time with 15-20 mg on the plug. I am careful about the flame and smoking technique - slow methodical breaths, very long holds. Again, no feeling whatsoever.


Now I'm at a strange crossroads. Do I try to find another ACRB source and check to see if that was the problem? Or do I need to try to extract pure white dmt? Was I just not abosrbing enough (I am a noob smoker, right)?

Or do I try to administer it differently? And yes, I'm ready to try an anal dose if that's what it will take - which is sort of an analog of what the universe may be doing to me anyway, so why not submit?

Hugs and cosmic kisses,

FF

FiniteFox,

What did your product look like when you tried to smoke it? Did you have DMT freebase as in white crystals? I don't think you can smoke acetate, or should... There might be some step along the extraction process that you're missing thus giving you a product that's not smokeable. It could also be that your ACRB is bunk, I don't know.

If you give more info about your extraction process / some numbers, perhaps people with ACRB-extraction-experience can give you some assistence.

Good luck.

I've smoked extremely small doses; down to a few mgs. The threshold in me is below 1-2mg. Even with just a few mg, I get a sensation in my head that will cause discomfort if I'm doing anything but relaxing in 'trip' mode.

The other day I loaded a bowl of mj in my bubbler that my fiancee used with some enhanced leaf the night before. As I blew the hit out, the feeling of dmt was unmistakable. Not anything close to the realm of visuals or tripping, but a beautiful meditation enhancer - so that's what I did for the next 10 minutes while the threshold effects wore off - had a great little meditation session.

I think microdoses of DMT + meditation can be a powerful thing - I'm going to have to explore that more.

Here are a few pics.

Mason jar with the based ACRB and D-limo separating on top.

Freebased dmt from the ACRB, post evap of acetone. I got the acetone from the <H Despot> and I've read people complain about it not being "dry", despite the material safety list thing stating its 100%. Maybe that would weaken the overall product, but I've heard that the extra washing soda won't actually be a problem if its smoked. Thoughts?

The machine (minus the holding tank, an 8 oz water bottle sealed airtight, connected by straws). Helped cool down the smoke so I could handle it.

Close up of the copper plug.

Can you get your hands on Mimosa root bark? I'd try that and get solid crystalline spice.
I usually get around 1.5% yield from MHRB of very pure dmt.

I'd love to get MHRB, but I don't think there is a legit source for me.
As far as the ACRB goes, should I try to take the remaining freebase and try to remove the nn dmt from it?

Hi Nexus and hi thread...
I was about to make a new thread but it seems the topic here is relevant to my plight...
I also did research on my own, made it on my own, and journeyed also on my own.
Total journeys... 2
First (single toked journey with flaky dry yellowish yield) was ok, but coughed for two days...
Second (single toked journey with orangy gooey yield) was a blast and quite intense, but coughed 3 days.. and had totally lost my voice (can speak but hoarse and takes a lot of effort to talk loud) and the center of my back seemed to be hurting.
I traveled using the pop bottle foil thingamajig...
Origin was Q21Q21 A/B tek 2...

I know I haven't broken through.. But aims to do so...
But I might have toked impurities hence the coughing...

Please do transfer me to another thread if this is not the proper thread this is supposed to be in...

pictures of the dried crystal and the gooey stuff attached...
Help me guys.. I wanna know what's out there... without coughing like hell on the process...

If its harsh you are burning it, if its causing you to cough you are most likely burning it still. Especially for days.

Proper vaping device usually fixes this issue.

FiniteFox, ditch that rig and get yourself a proper vaping device, or try enhancing some sort of herb thats safe to smoke.

Already awaiting my Classic GV (ordered a GVG but the dealer here doesnt carry it...) Thanks Anrchy for pointing out that I am burning it.

It may be burning, yes. An alternative is to get a bed of ash in a regular smoking pipe. Smoke some herbs and pack the bowl so that there's a good thick ash bed. Then put the stuff on top and flick the flame over it, without inhaling. It will turn to liquid and be absorbed into the ash. At that point, run the flame over (NOT ON TOP, OVER) the ash bed while inhaling. The idea is to get the heat of the flame, while never touching the flame to the bed. That is sufficient to vapourize it without burning. And remember you can start with the flame further away, and just move it closer if you're not getting anything. SWIM and his friends a few years ago did just that and it worked great.

If you're not smoking it improperly, it could be contaminants (lye hurts like a bitch to inhale, as well as some oils sometimes). And a re-x could fix that up. Although I'd suggest smoking properly first before going to the trouble.

Instead of fiddling with and failing to smoalk pure DMT, why not just make changa with it and smoalk it out of a bonga? Whenever i make dmt, i dry it under a fan to evaporate NPS, then i immediately dissolve it in iso or acetone and make changa with it. I have had far too many failed attempts at smoalking crystal DMT and find it to be a stressful intergalactic gamble with hyperspace. Every time I smoalk my changa bonga it works every single time. If I were in your shoes, I would stop wasting my time with crystal DMT and just make some changa/enhanced leaf with it.

ACRB is truly a hit or miss sort of deal. I've been mostly lucky around 75% of the time but i would guess the odds are closer to 50/50. I just broke into a new 500g stash and well its not so good.. so ordered 1000g more 500 for one source 500 from another. Its worth 10x its weight in gold to me so i just keep throwing money at it, whatever it takes, you know..

Do remember to avoid aluminium foil entirely from any kind of smoking/ vaping device for toxicity reasons. The best hits come from clean spice heated gently, only just barely to vaping temperature with convection. A nice wide medium sized bong is just about perfect for this. Using many screens or torched and compressed steel wool or copper 'choreboy' and a regular candle flame type lighter on a low setting works very well. Draw the heat of the flame, but not the flame itself, using your lungs to regulate the flow. A slow steady stream of vapor is what you want. The smaller the device, the less dispersion of the vapours, the hotter and harsher the hit will be.

hi there if your smoking that amount with no effect at all and coughing that much then don't smoke it anymore.
its not dmt.if there was even tiny amounts of dmt you would notice something.maybe your root source is not containing any???. white or very slightly yellow crystals is what your after they actually sparkle like very lite snow 50/60mg of that and you should be folding space for six minutes. it is harsh but not that harsh you should be able to hold it in for ten seconds and then pull twice more if possible.

I hope you have luck in finding a good source.
regards from mr whippy.

Guys thanks for the replies from this thread...
Already isolated and remedied the coughing problem.
I'm really burning it the first times I used it.

Does anyone of you out there gets totally spaced out upon first toke only..
I held my breath and prepared to do the next toke but it whammed me to the point that I cant manage to complete and finish the second...
Still no breakthrough but still aims to..

That is the beauty of a vapouriser, like the Vapour Genie (I have one and I LOVE it.) Or the Glass Vapour Genie. (Heard equally excellent things.)

You can load up a breakthrough amount and easily do the whole lot in one go, leaving you just enough time to place your pipe down and relax back for take off, whilst you hold the vaporised crystals in your lungs. Another bonus is there is hardly any smell at all, and it isn't harsh. Win win.

I've broken through on about 25mg using my VG.