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Nathanial.Dread
#1 Posted : 8/14/2014 12:36:23 AM

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Seriously? Is it open season on innocent men of color or something? I just turned 20, so my memory about these things doesn't go back all that far, but I feel like there are way more brazen murders being committed by the police these days, for which they suffer zero consequences.

Has it always been this way and we're only now just hearing about it? Or are we actually seeing an uptick in instances of absurd police brutality?

Today, Ezell Ford (an unarmed black man with some kind of developmental disability) was shot three times as he lay on the ground.

Mike Brown (an unarmed black man) was gunned down in Missouri, and the police have gone to town on protesting citizens. The killer was put on paid administrative leave.

Eric Garner (another aunarmed black man) was killed after the police put him in a choke hold.

And lets not forget the baby who got a grenade exploded in his face during the course of a SWAT-style raid on a low-level methamphetamine dealer and all the dogs that have been shot.

What the Hell?
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#2 Posted : 8/14/2014 1:12:19 AM

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yea, there's no end to the madness.
last year, police in austin shot an african-american who was running away from them, in the back,
because they thought he robbed a bank (he did not).
gone are the days when police use pepper spray on dogs or suspects, they just shoot; which is
why i have no sympathy for those who get killed in the line of duty.
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#3 Posted : 8/14/2014 1:32:18 AM

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#4 Posted : 8/14/2014 2:34:14 AM

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The militarization of the police hasn't made it any better, but its been going in a long time. The first I remember being aware of were Abner Louima (not murdered, but beaten and sodomized by police) and Amadou Dialou, both victims of Rudy Guiliani's "broken windows" campaign of enforcement in the mid 90's.
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#5 Posted : 8/14/2014 3:21:11 AM

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Yes we remember NYC in Giuliani time, not only murder but constantly arresting anybody over the weekend... Many stories.

The reason we all know this now all over the USA is the internet, before it was only the Village Voice who reported on this.
 
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benzyme wrote:
police in austin shot an african-american who was running away from them, in the back ... which is why i have no sympathy for those who get killed in the line of duty.

I completely agree (even though my sister is a cop Sad ). Also the US supreme court has ruled its unconstitutional to shoot a fleeing suspect, but that doesn't stop them.

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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
Seriously? Is it open season on innocent men of color or something? I just turned 20, so my memory about these things doesn't go back all that far, but I feel like there are way more brazen murders being committed by the police these days, for which they suffer zero consequences.

Has it always been this way and we're only now just hearing about it? Or are we actually seeing an uptick in instances of absurd police brutality?...


There is most definitely an uptick, although it has been bad for some time.
I agree there have been a lot of blatant murders by police lately, mostly against minorites, the poor, & the mentally ill.

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The militarization of the police hasn't made it any better...

This is a huge part of the problem; leaving police feeling like citizens are potential threats & subjects to be dominated.

Why do they need camouflage?
Why do they need rocket launchers and anti-mine vehicles?

What percentage of cases like these lead to firings AND criminal prosecutions?

Nathanial.Dread wrote:
Today, Ezell Ford (an unarmed black man with some kind of developmental disability) was shot three times as he lay on the ground.

Mike Brown (an unarmed black man) was gunned down in Missouri, and the police have gone to town on protesting citizens. The killer was put on paid administrative leave.

Eric Garner (another aunarmed black man) was killed after the police put him in a choke hold.

And lets not forget the baby who got a grenade exploded in his face during the course of a SWAT-style raid on a low-level methamphetamine dealer and all the dogs that have been shot.


- Eric Garner was accused of selling "loose cigarettes", and wound up dead Thumbs down

Here are a few more to add to the list: mostly mentally ill people

killed; mentally ill.


beaten repeatedly; mentally ill and black.

Reporters arrested in Ferguson


Teargassed for protesting on their own property Stop

Can we imagine what would occur if the white republicans carrying Assault rifles in public were arrested or assaulted by police?

Where are the persons who protested at the Cliven Bundy Ranch?



Mentally ill man beaten to death by police.


Cops Shoot Homeless Mentally Ill Man 46 Times






 
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#7 Posted : 8/14/2014 4:11:29 AM

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Unfortunately this is not anything new. Racism is not over, it's simply become invisible, which is arguably even more dangerous and oppressive.
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#8 Posted : 8/14/2014 4:53:42 AM

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Jox wrote:
Yes we remember NYC in Giuliani time, not only murder but constantly arresting anybody over the weekend... Many stories.


And that was waayyy before "stop and frisk." It's sucks you have to be pushing 30 years old minimum to remember when we still had Fourth Amendment protection against unlawful search in the US.

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Continuum wrote:
The militarization of the police hasn't made it any better...

This is a huge part of the problem; leaving police feeling like citizens are potential threats & subjects to be dominated.

Why do they need camouflage?
Why do they need rocket launchers and anti-mine vehicles?

What percentage of cases like these lead to firings AND criminal prosecutions?


IMO, the militarization of the police, especially the DEA and SWAT teams, has as much to do with a decade and a half of intense defense spending than an actual increase in threat from citizens. When the country spends billions of dollars on wartime machinery and equipment, then we are no longer engaged in war to the same extent, it ends up with improperly trained police forces and we have Baby Bou Bou tragedies.

It will take me a while to read through your attachment, Cosmic Spore, so please excuse me if the literature covers or refutes the above statement.


Here's one more to add to the list. Don't think this made national news, but was local news in my area. Cops shot and killed a black man running towards them for assistance after he was in a car crash last September.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/...arolina-police-shooting/
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#9 Posted : 8/14/2014 6:40:28 AM

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As said, the militarization of police has been absolutely insane. But, look at it this way, specifically in the US, who has first dibs at becoming a police officer? Veterans returning from over seas. Why? Theyre already trained and can function as part of a unit. Police departments don't want "individuals" to be police, they want the police to be one solid entity.

This photo Ive attached sums up Police 60 years ago to the "police" of today. Tactical gear, armor, automatic rifles...all military gear!

It's really more so to make a psychological impact. It says, follow the rules, and you wont need to worry about these guys. The police are not here any longer to protect and serve the public, they havent been for a very long time. I recall reading somewhere that local police departments are NOT, I repeat, NOT LEGALLY OBLIGATED to respond to 911 calls. If say someone is being threatened by someone else with a weapon, if the police simply do not choose to respond, and then the victim of said crime was to try to sue their police department, there is no case against the police department.

How true is that, I do not know as I have not really looked into it further, but back to protect and serve, theyre truly not here for the public, they are here to protect the foundations of government, and as a byproduct of this, do get involved with the public. But the agenda is served primarily, not the people.
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#10 Posted : 8/14/2014 8:54:46 AM

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In Australia the whole police image changed.

They changed their name from "The Police SERVICE" to the "The Police FORCE"
Their attire changed from collar shirts, ties, neat polished shoes... to SWAT pants tucked into army boots...
They put signs up showing an officer pointing at your with the words "WE'RE GONNA GET YOU".. you'd be driving along and like.. "wtf... they're gonna get me... for what? what have I done?"

The Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on TV "Nothing gives Australian's more sense of safety than seeing police in military uniform"

I thought.. I CERTAINLY feel safe seeing out MILITARY personnel in military uniform, but the POLICE, the first thing you think is "what have I done? What will they conjure up to issue me with a fine?"

The Australia Defence Force are CHAMPIONS of Australia!
The Aussie POLICE aren't too bad on the guns, they seem more concerned with their ticket books and shooting you in the wallet

It's terrible to hear these things in a racism context, not just cops who are trigger happy or over-stressed in the job


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#11 Posted : 8/14/2014 11:48:59 AM

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I can't resist to ad what Bloomberg said when Occupy Wall Street was taking place in NUC:

- I have my own police force against them!
 
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third dimensional world problems, the manifestation of energy that would normally not be able to inhabit this realm acting through human instruments who consciously or unconsciously allow entry.


well that's a stretch, i'd say violence is an evolutionary deficit that will be excreted from our collective systems in due time. a lot of time.
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#13 Posted : 8/14/2014 4:38:36 PM

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--Shadow wrote:
It's terrible to hear these things in a racism context, not just cops who are trigger happy or over-stressed in the job



I hate to generalize, but as has been said before, a lot of cops served in the military, and a lot of those military folks come from small towns; many of them do observe prejudice and are xenophobic....and like i've mentioned before, you don't need to be a critical thinker to be a cop, probably just need to think on your feet.

personally, i don't know at what point in childhood, into adulthood, the trust turned into fear, which just turned into contempt for the police. i just know what you guys know, the militarization of police is a real problem, more than a practical solution; and accountability seems to be scarce, the "authorities" seem to be above the very laws they are supposed to observe and enforce.
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#14 Posted : 8/14/2014 6:44:27 PM

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This rant is just what I think about a subject that angers me a great deal and one that I find embarrassing at this stage of supposed human development.
This is only a rant.

Beginning of rant:

Edit: The world needs less rants, I had to delete this....

End of rant.

Sorry its depressing and makes me angry.
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#15 Posted : 8/14/2014 10:09:17 PM

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This has been a problem in the US since police existed...the only thing that has changed is technology...they can't cover it up anymore...everyone has cameras now...

We need to outgrow the police...we have to change society to rid the need of police

Let try to respect each other and get rid of this plauge on society!!!!
 
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#16 Posted : 8/14/2014 10:32:50 PM

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Its all about programing..
Brainwashing if you like..
Robots can kill without emotion..
Many Gov employees have been taught or reprogramed to act without feeling or to hate without reason..
Many people of all races have learned hate through years of sufering..
Some more fortunate ones have learned love...
We used to try to care for the mentaly ill..now we treat them like dirt let them live and die on the streets...[just to save our almighty money!
What we got here is a failer to comunicate at a worldly scale!
Im beginning to see society today as one big universe of information..
After all ..what makes me.. me?
Its not my flesh ...its the info in my brain colected through years of living that gave me a personality..[without it i would be a zoimbie]]
but maybe [a zombie with a soul?]] i hope so..
Those films showing government killing people with out need..is deprerssing and shows how unskilled some uniforms are..
Life is cheap to some people as long as it isnt their life ..
I believe the uniforms..and people in general live as much in an illusional world as a real one!
Ive let go of my phisical body more than once triping ..and could feel the unfiltered release of my mind from my physical body..
And i know that the real me is made up of information and emotion..and my physical body is only secondary..
 
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#17 Posted : 8/15/2014 8:36:23 AM

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Elaborating on what starway said, I came across this article a while back. Truly unreal.
http://communities.washingtonti...ts-featuring-children-p/

Theyre called "No More Hesitation" targets. They depict handgun wielding women, children, and elderly.

“The subjects in NMH targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training. I found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty).

This hesitation time may be only seconds but that is not acceptable when officers are losing their lives in these same situations. The goal of NMH is to break that stereotype on the range, regardless of how slim the chances are of encountering a real life scenario that involves a child, pregnant woman, etc. If that initial hesitation time can be cut down due to range experience, the officer and community are better served.”


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#18 Posted : 8/15/2014 2:53:47 PM

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It used to be that a police officer was admirable. We looked up to them in the community because they put their lives on the line every day. There were never any guarantees that they were coming home each night - that's why they were heroes to us.

Today, unfortunately, the police have traded that margin of danger for guarantees of safety, and the byproduct is the violation of innocent civilians. Cops are completely ok with shoot first, ask later, because they have been led to believe that their lives are more important than Liberty and Freedom.

The Supreme Court has ruled that it is not a requirement of the police to protect and/or serve anyone.

The Supreme Court also ruled that it is not unconstitutional to limit the IQ of incoming officers.

We are truly fucked as a nation if we cannot become unglued to the mainstream media and become a nation of civilian solidarity. And that is truly difficult to imagine, given the multitude of ridiculous things that divide us.


I haven't ranted about this in a long time. Clearly, DMT helps.
 
 
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