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Entheologist
#1 Posted : 8/4/2014 10:14:17 PM
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I hear a lot about hyperspace, it sounds absolutely mind warping. I haven't had the fortune of experiencing it yet. I did visit hypospace though. I can't say it was very interesting, pleasant or that I have any intention of ever going back there but by God, the lessons I learned there are possibly the most profound lessons I've learned in my life, its taken me over 10 years to integrate the experience and I'm still integrating it. Funny, a salvia trip that lasted 15 minutes, takes me 15 years to integrate.

I don't know if this was the second dimension, but there was no movement, nowhere to go so it was more like the 0 dimension. A spaceless place. However, I perceived my surrounding and believed them to be separated from me by distance. They were blue, I remember that. I didn't like them either, I had the idea that this blue thing surrounding me was conscious and that I was gonna have to battle it to make it set me free from this confined trap. I couldn't access my memories of anything beyond this world I was in, so I didn't know if it was even possible to escape it because for all I knew, thats where I had always been and would be for eternity. That was too harsh to accept because this place was so confined, limited and uncomfortable. I didn't know if it was possible to get to somewhere else, but I decided I was gonna just do it so I dropped the hows, whys, buts, what ifs etc. and just strove to move to a better place.

I distinctly remember I had a limited number of options, things to try that may set me free. One of the things I decided to try last because it seemed too simple to work, and there was more to it, I had some preconception that this thing just won't work. So I tried the other things first. A lot of them involved strategically battling with this blue thing trapping me, nothing worked, it didn't respond at all. I exhausted all my options except for one. And what do you know, thats what set me free. A big revelation came to me then. I wasn't trapped at all. It was an illusion. This blue thing wasn't some external adversary, it was actually me. All I needed to do was send the command and it would respond accordingly. The reason I didn't think this would work was because I was convinced this blue thing was a separate entity and it was my adversary. On transitioning back to 3D reality, I was still viewing things from outside human logic and I distinctly remember seeing mechanisms of reality that had been right under my nose my whole life, but I never saw it because my logic tells me theres nothing there, so I never thought to look. I also saw what new agers say a lot "we're all connected". I used to think that was cheesy wishful thinking, but after seeing its mechanisms I intuitively know thats actually how it is. The ego illusion is still skewing my perception, I remember the exact point where I stepped back into the flawed human logical system (which is a bit like a cage for the mind) that I could no longer see that we're all connected, and the old bad feelings came back. The magic seems to be in the transitions between states. When you make the transition, you see the immediate changes so that shows you in a blatantly obvious way, what the cause of a particular ailment/condition is.

I do a lot of lucid dreaming, and I've observed this principle clearly in there too. I often become lucid in the middle of a non lucid dream. One minute I'm in a non lucid dream, and operating on weird logic, then I suddenly realise its a dream and I snap back to my everyday, ordinary logic and thats when I get to see the changes that come with the change in logic. This is really profound stuff because it hints at how logic is like a programming language for our perception of reality. We call them "lucid" dreams, but we're not really all that lucid, we're just operating under a particular logical system. An example which sums this up is how I learned to fly in lucid dreams. When I first started waking up in my dreams, I theoretically knew that since its a dream I should be able to do anything. So I started with flying, I'd jump but it turns out its not that simple. The preconception that I'm bound by gravity is so firmly embedded in my subconscious, that I had a shred of doubt that it might not work, and that little shred of doubt is exactly what prevented me from being able to fly. Then one night I was in a non lucid dream and I had a magical trash can that enabled me to fly, so I was flying about the place having a great time. Then I suddenly realised I'm dreaming. But I was still flying. Its pretty hard to doubt you can do something when you're doing it. This is like how I learned to cycle a bicycle. I kept falling off when I tried, so my granddad held it up for my while I peddled and he kept saying "I'm still here, keep going", then at one point I looked back and he was gone. I panicked for a second, but I was cycling without his help. The same principle, and its a profound one. A lack of awareness enables us to override a self imposed limitation. That lack of awareness in reality isn't a lack of awareness, its actually the truth. In the dream I did have the ability to fly, it was my ordinary, everyday logic that was flawed. So non lucid dreams are just as profound as mediums for unravelling the mechanisms of the mind and reality, as lucid ones are. But the real magic seems to be in the transition state. When you observe the moment that you switch from one state to the next, you see which aspects of the previous state caused which phenomenon.

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#2 Posted : 8/4/2014 10:20:07 PM

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I've heard that Salvia has its own kind of land, which is very unique, and not comparable to any psychedelic. Too bad that many people use it just to "get stoned and tripping out of their mind". Salvia is a great teacher too, when used properly.

Thanks for insightful post.Smile

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#3 Posted : 8/7/2014 8:18:19 PM

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Interesting experience. In fact, this is one of the main lines of thought of me lately: the switching back and forth between different "mind states". In one state, a certain kind of logic applies which makes no sense in the 'real world' state. The logic between these states seems inherently incompatible. The impression that I am getting is that they are related to some vibratory pattern, which may sound pretty new-agey, but after experiencing it so many times, that feels like the most fitting description.

And it can happen so fast. I am a light sleeper and tend to suddenly drift away into some sort in between state that is full of things happening. But when you suddenly drift out of them, you first think you didnt sleep, yet what just was experienced makes no sense. Switching back and forth within a second. You feel like an enormous amount of things happened and you were very busy with it, yet you cant convert into the earth framework.

I too have had period with intense lucid dreaming. Flying at first was pretty silly, I did it by flapping my arms like wings. After a while, you just play superman and whiz across the sky at terrifying speeds. Some of these lucid dreams were completely hypperreal (seems more real than real life, more intense colors, everything is brighter. Yet you control most aspects of this reality) and as you say, normal logic does seem to apply more in that situation, but in my experience not completely.




 
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#4 Posted : 8/7/2014 10:53:25 PM

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oversoul1919 wrote:
I've heard that Salvia has its own kind of land, which is very unique, and not comparable to any psychedelic. Too bad that many people use it just to "get stoned and tripping out of their mind". Salvia is a great teacher too, when used properly.

Thanks for insightful post.Smile

Love and peace.


7x salvia for me is pleanty powerfull and alows for better memory and control in the experiance..

The more potent extracts 40x..60 x and higher just seem to wipe out your memory after the experiance to a point..

The salvia experiance is much like lucid dreaming...

Once..I actually felt myself transport as if flying from one demention to another...

In another trip ..I became a salvia plant in a mountain field full of salvia plants everywhere ..swaying gently to the breeze under a bright sun..

In yet another trip.. i observed a long line of gingerbread people stretching miles back in the green hilled countryside...
Then the gingerbread person in front of the line sudenly topeled backwards knocking down the gingerbread person behind him ..then a domino effect began as hundreds of gingerbread people began falling to the ground ..and when each gingerbread person hit the green grassed ground disapearing and leaving a beautyfull bright yellow star on the spot they stood!..

In my last salvia light trip i remember seeing something so ordinary that it should have boored me.
But what I saw was a green lawn with green hills and a simple cloths line with many white linnons or shirts hanging on it..
The colors were so vivid and bright like an animated cartoon with sun shining a gentle breeze blew through the white shirts gently as they hung on the line..
The memory of this quite ordinary thing ..[white shirts hanging on a clothsline]..was one of the most beautyfull things ive ever observed in my life .
I cant explain why this was so awsome to me but salvia made it that way in my mind!
I think I was seeing this from the mind of a very small child !

I once did some 40x and felt like a ..[wet rug about one inch thick].. and my tiny heart beating felt like the size of a button in relation to my new flat wet rug body..
Thats an example of a little too much...

Salvia can be awesome if you respect it and take sensable sized doses!1
 
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#5 Posted : 8/8/2014 11:43:38 AM
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I took smoked salvia 15x.......it wasn't that large of a dose, but I wasn't ready for it. I had no clue what to expect. I smoked one hit by myself in my room. As soon as I felt this soft, warm, vibration pulsating throughout my body, my first thought as I placed the pipe down was:

"Yeah. I'm dying. It's time. Jesus is arriving".....and I layed down on my bed waiting for Jesus to come to take me to heaven. But after a minute or two I realized, "wait! Jesus didn't save me??? Am I going to lay here forever or have I been left behind on earth?"

After this experiment with smoked Salvia, it took some time to come back to 'reality'....some intense deep thought provoking stuff, sage is.

It took me over an hour after getting out of bed to realize it may have been just the Salvia.

That stuff (when smoked) for me, left me feeling wiser for experiencing it.

But it also made me never touch it again.


Would those of you, who are more into Salvia, consider it to be a strong dissacoiative (when smoked)?

I've read heavenly things about the quid method, and I've heard that the natives state that the Goddess strongly disapproves of smoking Salvia.
 
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#6 Posted : 8/8/2014 5:56:46 PM
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For me it's only dissociative during the trip, as in, I am sitting in my room with no consciousness of my current human life at the time.

But afterwards, I come back to reality.
 
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#7 Posted : 8/8/2014 7:30:49 PM

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I read this thread's title as "visiting hypospadias.." and I was expectign some cool pics, but alas

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#8 Posted : 8/9/2014 4:21:05 AM

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Infundibulum wrote:
I read this thread's title as "visiting hypospadias.." and I was expectign some cool pics, but alas


I had to look that up - wish I never had Shocked

Actually I really like the word Hypospace! I've tried Salvia a few times and it can indeed feel like being squashed into a 2d space (Hypo = below). Never really delved into it (yet??)... but a plant to respect deeply.
 
 
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