This is something ive been thinking about a lot lately since I've been single, and also due to the fact that this caused conflict in my last relationship on her part. How important is it to any of you that your significant other also has some interest in the things going on in the psychedelic community? This is more for those who have found it their life purpose to study these things and get involved to try and bring this stuff out in a positive light. If your answer is its not important, how do you deal with not being able to share such a deep personal interest.... your lifestyle even? My last girlfriend pretended she was all into it but whenever I tried to have a conversation about anything I received "that's all you talk about let's watch TV" or just be completely uninterested. This hurt me a lot because I felt like my partner did not care at all that I finally have found something I'm passionate about. For future relationships, I feel like this is something I'm really going to have to consider. I'm looking forward to hearing your responses.

While I would most definitely, strongly prefer a psychedelic significant other, I have been alone so long that I would enter a relationship with most any female that seemed interested in me.


If I were unable to share my DMT/hallucinogenic plant interest with her, it would be much like not being able to tell her "baby, I'm growing marijuana" just in case it went bad.

I tried mentioning DMT to my last gf, 5 or 6 years ago; she said "that's stupid"
I'd strongly prefer to find someone who shares some interest in the psychedelic community, but if I limited myself in that manner, I would almost certainly never find anyone ever again.

If she'd be into it, that would obviously be a huge plus (+2 on the attractiveness scale easy). This isn't realistic i guess, so i'd settle for "curious" or "encouraging"...perhaps "tolerant" if she is super hot. Otherwise..no thanks.

Don't believe the media. There are hot girls out there who like to trip. Just look for them. And help her out.

My wife will trip with me once in a while, but she isn't really into psychedelics.

When we first met, we actually bonded over a half eighth of shrooms. That must be why she's still with me because I don't know of any other woman that would put up with me!

By the way, I like your avatar, Tyler_Trismegistus. Cats rule.

I think acceptance is very important. My partner is not particularly interested in psychedelics, but he accepts my interest in them completely. I know that often he can't relate to my fascination and I don't press the subject, but he is never offended by my interest, their mention or my use and there is never any issue about it. He will sit for me if I want it, or will give me space and time to do it on my own.

It wasn't always like this for me. I've had relationships with people who didn't understand and didn't like my use, or even got jealous of it. I have no tollerance for this kind of behaviour anymore, so I decided to make it very clear when I got together with my current partner, and there has never been a problem, since.

I've also had relationships with people who actually enjoyed using as well and things got a bit wild back then. Two people encouraging each other to push the envelope... well it can get a bit out of hand if you don't make that reality check now and then, which with a sober partner you would have to do quite frequently. On the other hand it can also give a great base for exploring altered states in depth, since no-one is holding you back and the significant other can relate to your feelings and epiphanies in a much better way than someone who's never been there. Plus tripping together with your partner can be very very nice.

Thanks guys. ... and enoon I really understand the jealousy thing. My last partner didn't want to ever trip with me but would almost give jealous, snotty remarks when I would enthusiastically talk about an experience I had. The jealousy of that and the stability of my psychological state bothered her because she had put herself into an inner war. I'd rather feel appreciated than loved I guess This is going to be something I consider heavily before I dive into someone again.

Two people tripping means nothing. It is the openness that is important to me, after spending a lot of time thinking about this.

It's about ideals.

You can be a yogi and be open in that way, you can do nothing and be open in that way. You can take MDMA and not be open in that way.

I am talking about open to expression. Authentic expression. If someone is not open to another persons authenticity, and is not able to at least strive towards being energetically open to they're own authenticity, then being with them will never leave me feeling fulfilled. I dont want to have to lie, I dont want to have to hide etc..In turn, you cannot expect another to want to do what you do unless they really want to do what you do.

Otherwise 10 years later you might find yourself in a loveless, sexless marriage after the tension erodes what little was there to begin with. Who wants that?

At the best we can hope that we can learn more about how we express ourselves in the world, from all the failed relationships. It's the lies we live that hurt us the most. There is nothing like asking yourself "am I happy?", and knowing each day you tell yourself a lie. It is heartbreaking. Happiness is imperative to healthy functioning. This includes healthy relationships. This kind of true happiness only comes ime when an individual is not suppressed and so fulfilled within they're own authentic being. If two people can come together, and have it together enough to be able to support each other in that process fully, then they have something very few in this world seem to have.

That is my opinion.

In any relationship what connects us is having something in common... I guess if it is just a sex buddy it doesn't matter, but a real relationship without sharing the crucial things, such as psychedelics I don't think it is possible.

That doesn't mean that one can't convert the person, if your life is good, and if they see you benefit from what you do they will naturally be attracted to do the same.

For example I have always been into healty foods and working out, all of my previous partners were drawn into it, without me even insisting,,which is the key I think, they will follow you if you don't push them.

My wife and I would qualify.

Its actually gotten a lot better, but in the beginning it was difficult. I tend to get very excited when taking about things of interest, and I'll go on and on about it. My wife is just not very interested in this stuff. She likes LSA and MDMA, but doesn't care for much else in the psychedelic realm, and she's not very interested in talking about it. She will admit that mushrooms have helped her decrease anxiety, but she thought the experience was very heavy and scary.

It drew a bit of a divide early on, but we talked about things and came to an understanding that we don't have to feel the exact same way about something. I tried to respect her by talking about it less, and she respected me by accepting my interest, and being supportive as long as I included variety in our conversations.

I'm lucky, my fiancee has done enough psychedelics to feel the significance, and I have shared with her enough anthropological data that shows her there is something truly sacred to it all.

She was supportive during my dmt learning phase and became interested along the way.

She's a trooper too, doesn't always have the most pleasant trips, but still always receives graciously. She definitely uses psychedelics for healing and centering, and she's a psychonaut that 'does a lot of work' on her journeys.

You can tell yourself it's not really important, but in the end, deep down, you're going to always want to share the things closest to your heart with your sig. other, and psychedelic experiences are usually pretty close to our hearts here.

Just imagine yourself as a magnet for women who love psychedelics, 60's peace/love mentality, artwork, music festivals, esoteric studies and dudes named Tyler. Think about this often enough and you'll start to trick yourself into believing that it works. Once you believe it works, it does. Then, sit back and watch the synchronous phenomena unfold.

Cheers to your future sig. other -- blonde or brunette?

My wife is very interested in spice. She takes an antidepressant MAOI, so we have found by experimentation that she only requires a low dose to have a powerful experience. We take turns, because we use spice for personal self exploration, not to "get high". When she uses, she often has me take notes so she can remember her experiences in more detail.

My last girlfiend was very interested in spice as well. I would say she was more of an adventuress than a shamanic explorer. If she was tripping she would become physically quite activated. Naked yoga was a favorite.

If I ever find myself single again, I would very much need to find someone that was tolerant of my fascination with the psychedelic experience, and altered states of consciousness in general. Preferably someone who shared my interest, but lf not, respect and tolerance would be the minimum.

My gf has never done any psychedelics but is very accepting of it. I feel like she may try them some day, but that's for her to decide. She always likes hearing my stories of what I saw. I truly think she could benefit greatly from them to help rid herself of her anxiety. She manages it decently by herself without any medication, but has the occasional moment where it takes over. Ive never asked her if shed want to try dmt unless she read into it more before trying. Id be a little concerned if she really wanted to try because of how heavy it can hit, I wouldnt want to see her come out the wrong side of the experience and have it do more damage than good.

HumbleTraveler,

She may do harmalas only, 250mg and up. It is very grounding... Just a thought.

Yeah I've used caapi tea as an anti depressant and found amazing results!

i like the way you think. thanks for this

I don't think its important that your partner ingest or even show interest in psychedelics. It is important the your partner respect and accept your use.
I have been married for 14 years I have been using mushrooms and LSD for about 35 years, I have been using DMT for about 11 years give or take a year my wife accepted my use when we met. Three years ago she began to explore MDMA and 2CB, LSD and mushrooms soon followed. It was not until a little more than a year ago that she experienced DMT and she had her first breakthrough about a month ago.

I often reflect upon this topic and ponder its. I have come to the conclusion that weather or not both partners use is really not so important, IF, your relationship is one that has a foundation based on honesty and respect. I know others who were not completely honest and forthcoming about their use when entering into a new relationship and this failure to be open and honest is what strained the relationship.

IH

for me all I ask for in a girl. is a girl that has a lot of good and positive energy, never puts you down with offhand remarks, doesn't judge you by what you do(psychedelics etc)
and encourages you to be better and do what you love, and is willing to be your little slut in bed, because she likes giving you that power and seeing the strong masculine in you.

IF she has all of that do I care if she trips with me ? nope.

I could not possibly agree more with every single thing that Ice House just said.

I'll second all that. Honesty and respect make so much possible.

I've been with my wife going on 22 years. Many of our first dates involved LSD, which was so refreshing after the alcohol-soaked travesty of my previous relationship. She hasn't taken anything in a decade, but is still in many ways a psychedelic personality, in her art and in her unique and free perception of the world.

I'm grateful to be able to speak with her about my experiences, and how they have impacted my art and my attitude. I try to keep things mellow, not like the days of the heroic doses where she regularly had to babysit me through challenging trips. We have a young child now and my activities must now be discreet on a whole new level. But the foundation of respect allows me to feel like I'm not sneaking around, which I think would cast a shadow on my experiences.