Since my first trip report, I've had a couple sub-breakthrough experiences. The thing that does blow my mind completely is that each time I'm thrust into the exact same space. For me at least, this tells me that this isn't just some screwed up brain chemistry going on. There's something far more serious going on. The implications start to make my head spin...

My last experience though turned out to be something a little bit different. I loaded my GVG with about 60mg and took several smallish hits due to my lungs and throat still being rather new to all this. I lay back and watched the neon kaleidoscope unfurl around me yet again. Then it changed. The panes of glowing neon shifted and became white neon letters, numbers, and iconic symbols. It was all morphing so fast that I couldn't make out any words as such, but I knew that I was looking at language that I was familiar with. Then a few symbols caught my eye: a dollar sign, the Japanese Yen symbol, and the Sterling Pound symbol. This made me momentarily think of how a friend and I were talking last weekend about how several people he knew were asking around for spice and how we could stand to make a fair bit of money because of it. I wasn't too keen on the idea of selling spice in the first place. The money would be great, but it just didn't sit well with me.

As soon as I thought of the mere possibility of selling spice, the characters all morphed at once. I could no longer read them or recognize any of the symbols. They were totally alien to me and I just knew that was exactly what they were: alien. Then I felt it. A brooding malevolence. A severe displeasure at my being where I was. An overwhelming sense that I was no longer welcome; that I was in serious danger if I lingered too much longer. The blackness surrounding the alien language started to turn towards being a dark, blood red. I was terrified. I asked for forgiveness. I apologized for bringing such thoughts into this realm. I made it known that I would never even consider selling spice again. I supplicated with all my being to the yawning blood-red darkness that surrounded me.

I felt a retraction of the malevolence. A wave of understanding and pity washed over me. The blood red darkened back to black and the alien language morphed back into more familiar figures. I'm not sure if I've ever felt so relieved in my life. As I came down I just lay still on my bed, feeling weak and embarrassed. On one hand I also felt somewhat invigorated. It felt like I was very close to breaking through. At the same time I have to almost be thankful that my lungs couldn't quite keep that last toke in fully. This encounter and learning lesson was terrifying enough at this sub-threshold level. If I had broken through and actually stood face to face with the entity that I felt bearing down on me, I probably still wouldn't be sleeping properly.

As far as I'm concerned, respect and reverence are the name of the game from here on out.

Personally , I couldn't sell spice.
I have given a few Changa joints to the odd , select person.
I don't think it should be even shared or given away.
Its too meaningful to be shared .
I dunno if that makes sense to you. It does to me.
I love looking at "God Code" sub break through. I cant help but think to myself, is this real.
I recently saw a different version of God Code , from the usual symbols n numbers.
I witnessed a really basic version of it . There were "plus" symbols and symbols like a basic flower head with 4 or 5 petals , triangles and so on. Really basic symbols.
Concerning negative forces , I once had some thing trying to pull my eyes out and I could feel them moving forward and back in my eye socket alternatively .
Honest, they was actually moving.
Good luck to you ..

Did you read about this forums policy on not discussing purchase/sale sometime before this experience? I am wondering if maybe it was what brought up the negativity in your trip.

I'm so curious.. When it darkened and you got alien letters.. Besides the fear. Looking at the style of visuals. Was it somehow more intense and looking back on it. Can you appreciate the aesthetics of it as something more overwhelming and intense than usual? Cus on paper it sounds very cool

DeltaSpice: I could actually see giving it away, but not selling it. Even then, it would have to be a very specific type of person for me to give spice to them.

nndmteamwork: I would have read the policies quite awhile ago (used to lurk for a good while), but I doubt that was it. If anything I think it was just reading most peoples' attitudes about selling spice on here in random posts. Plus I think that after a few experiences, deep down I just don't see this as something I would want to try to make a profit off of. I haven't even broken through yet and it feels totally sacred so I can't imagine sullying the experience by selling it.

Infectedstyle: It definitely got more intense. The typeface went from a fairly light-weight serif style to a heavy, angular, typeface. It was a very marked change that was unmistakable in tone. I'm a bit of a typography/design nerd so I can totally appreciate the aesthetics that were involved. As much as I don't want to see that side of things again, I would almost like to just so that I might be able to replicate some of the characters and symbols on paper.

Great report

<3

Thanks for the reply. As for being able to see it. I think you might get lucky then. Perhaps. Hopefully in a more appreciative mindset.

60mg in a GVG is an epicf*ckton load Thats like heading out to play paintball with a Vulcan Cannon.

Hell even 25-30mg in a GVG is pretty up there.

This is somewhat off topic but follows the latest reply in the thread so here goes...

I constantly hear of how efficient the gvg is at vaporizing spice here and how doses around 20-25mg are big doses when using the Gvg. Can you compare that size dose in relation to the machine?

I've read the machine is very efficient as well and its the only method I've used with spice but 25mg doses while are pretty intense never have gotten me all the way there.

Ive personally never used a machine, but I could see it being a little easier to burn spice using the machine.

Example, say you have your dmt premelted into some steel wool or choreboy or whatever your choice of neck stuffer was.

Now comes time for you to attempt a blast off. While heating the neck of the machine, if the dmt liquefys and migrates to the glass, its very possible the intense heat from the flame on the glass could burn your product and pass the vaporize temperature very quickly.

A GVG heats via convection, there will never be anything directly heating spice in a GVG, hot air will be moving around your spice. But there is no direct contact of an extreme source of heat.

So, 25mg in a machine could be vaporized properly, but Id be pretty comfortable saying a GVG will do it easier and more effectively without having to be too careful.

I know for me the first time I did 20mg in my GVG almost had me in a corner rocking saying THE NEXUS SAID 20mg WAS A LOW DOSE, WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME!? For me and my GVG, 10-15 is super comfortable over 2-3 hits.

Well I will be the first to admit that it may very well be my technique or lack thereof. It does seem to be getting better though as the hits are smoother than when I started. It is probably a combination of getting the technique down better as well as my lungs and throat becoming at least a little bit accustomed to smoking anything, let alone spice.

I have had better success with my machine than with my GVG.
I assume that I need a better technique and practice though .
The GVG definitely looks the business

Man, interesting report. I have very recently been in the situation where someone wanted to 'buy' some spice from me, or pay me for a time we tripped together and i immediately declined, with the general feeling that it shouldn't ever be anything sold in that manner.

Glad to see my hunches were correct!