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Posts: 51 Joined: 06-Apr-2014 Last visit: 08-Jan-2020
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http://www.iflscience.co...nsciousness-onoff-switchI wonder what nexus thnik about this finding. Could be this is a prrof for local consciousness theory or is it local switch in brain to access non-local consciousness ? What are your thoughts ? Impossible is just for ignorant fools
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Posts: 2277 Joined: 22-Dec-2011 Last visit: 25-Apr-2016 Location: Hyperspace Studios
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I don't know if it really tells us anything truly groundbreaking... A study involving one person. And what they were able to interrupt was conscious function. No doubt that part of the brain is central in how we process information and form our internal experience, but I don't think the study gets any closer to really explaining how all these phenomena add up to our having an aware, living self.
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Posts: 1952 Joined: 17-Apr-2010 Last visit: 05-May-2024 Location: somewhere west of here
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Interesting stuff; the case cited however is not that of the 'entirely normal' brain but does seem to agree with some work hypothesising the functions of the claustrum published a couple of years ago: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih....mc/articles/PMC3410410/#!po=0.862069 Pretty heavy-duty paper but the conclusion and post-script are worth a look.At this stage I dunno if it says much, if anything, about non-local consciousness. I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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I'm not sure what the implications are if any however there is a thread on salvia and the claustrum that might be of interest. I actually linked this to it earlier https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=41850
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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Posts: 5267 Joined: 01-Jul-2010 Last visit: 13-Dec-2018
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In terms of non-local consciousness, I wouldn't say this study has changed the name of the game one way or another. We know that a blunt blow to the head can render you unconscious or people can faint and lose consciousness etc...we know this is something the brain is easily capable of rendering, so it should be no surprise that it can be electromagnetically targeted to come to the same ends. The study is far from scientific as well. We have a sample size of one for someone as corpus callosum points out, is missing part of her hippocampus! It's practically absurd to have published any results without simply finding a moderate sample size on normal volunteers. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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Posts: 4612 Joined: 17-Jan-2009 Last visit: 07-Mar-2024
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If non-locality is it be understood, it's going to need to be tackled in a much different way than simply poking and prodding at various areas of a persons brain. Viperoid, check out the 'consciousness is not the brain thread', and the last few posts, especially the last one. The last post posits that there's a huge conundrum in the scientific/particle physics world with probability potentialities and applying that to 'materialistic/reductionist consciousness' alongside the particle/wave duality. I highly suggest you read that last post along with the link I posted in regards to the non-locality studies done at the national university of mexico and another study done at kings college by a neurophysiologist in London, which those are only a couple studies essentially proving non-locality via specific evoked potentials in consciousness. There are many other reproduced studies aside from those two mentioned. They are out there. Non locality is very real. And consciousness isn't as 'meat and bones' as we might think. Posts 28, 30, 32 on this thread: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=550289#post550289<3
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Posts: 2151 Joined: 23-Nov-2012 Last visit: 07-Mar-2017
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Cool article, but an epileptic woman and an epileptic worm (dips on that for a reboot of The Odd Couple, btw!) is hardly a ground breaking sample. I would definitely say this should maybe give guidance to future research, but until that's done, I'm reticent to draw any major conclusions. IF this small area of the brain turns out to be the location of consciousness, it could help us make some progress in the local/nonlocal debate. It might not tell us directly if consciousness is local, or if this part of the brain is a receiving area for some outside signal, but it would narrow down the part of the brain we need to examine to find some kind of mechanism of signal interception and translation. Which would be cool. Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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